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Reply #30 - 07/11/18 at 12:14:09
 
MShipley wrote on 07/11/18 at 11:28:50:
Well if you read the Holy Bible you will learn why Christianity is in decline.


 Besides reading multiple versions of the Holy Bible is there any other reference?
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Reply #31 - 07/11/18 at 12:50:08
 
Which one have you read?
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Reply #32 - 07/11/18 at 14:08:21
 
 I haven't read any of them.  

 Which one (s) would have to be read to know why white Christians are in decline in the US?  Also is reading them the only way to know?

 For instance I can paraphrase or to a degree explain the contents of a book for someone without requiring they read it in its entirety.
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Reply #33 - 07/11/18 at 15:06:45
 
In part, prosperity, as Web said,...
...also, science... we know things now that were mysterious 2,000 years ago...
The more we understand about the nature of the universe, the less we need a god.
Astrology has become astronomy... we all accept that.
Religion used to give answers... now it only gives myth.

Why are there 12 disciples?... Why was Jesus born on Dec 25th?...
The 12 signs of astrology,... and the winter solstice...
Christianity is just pagen sun worship embodied in a Jewish Rabbi...
People understand that more today.
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Ludicrous Speed !... ... Huh...
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Reply #34 - 07/11/18 at 15:18:01
 
Eegore wrote on 07/11/18 at 14:08:21:
 I haven't read any of them.  

 Which one (s) would have to be read to know why white Christians are in decline in the US?  Also is reading them the only way to know?

 For instance I can paraphrase or to a degree explain the contents of a book for someone without requiring they read it in its entirety.


Dude, not trying to be flippant, but even if it was in Braille.......

The Bible is written in a manner that you won’t be able to understand the ramifications if not taught by the Holy Spirit.
And even then, it can be a struggle, AND your understandings change, as you grow into a deeper relationship with God.

I speak from firsthand experience....
Is it everybodies, absolutely not.
I tried many attempts to read the Bible and to “find” religion within its text.
I got more from a barstool and a beer, or so I thought.
The understanding of sustainable happiness eluded me, as I desperately wanted what I saw in others.......
It took me 50 years, to finally come to a understanding, and that was only after I finally, in total, surrender MY will, to God.
I was gifted the Spirit, instantly, and what use to baffle me I could now understand.

Do not let my story hamper your investigation.
If your desires to enlightenment are true, you will be amazed.
On the other hand, if you are looking to prove prophecy false, you will fail.

The book you should want to look at is Revelations, try a new world version, as it is written in a more current manner, however, it will read as sci-fi no matter copy you get....
Scholars have spent countless hours on trying to explain it, good luck  Smiley
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Reply #35 - 07/11/18 at 15:18:27
 
Religion used to give answers... now it only gives myth.

I would argue it still gives answers but many take them as myths.

I knew an old guy a long time ago who use to say "If I've got $20 and a full tank of gas, who needs God?"

Today; we would say "If I've got a 401k, social security, Medicare, 50" flat screen and an Ipad, who needs God?"

Part of ramifications of prosperity means less of a day to day struggle just to stay alive. Fear of the end is further off in the distance in our world today. Reconciling that feeling we all have that we are unique in the world, that we are eternal,  is more abstract. We don't see death often enough to force a confrontation with our mortality.
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Reply #36 - 07/11/18 at 15:22:47
 
Good point Web.....

When you see fake death in the media multiple times in any given movie.....
It becomes nothing of substance, unless it’s yours.
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Reply #37 - 07/11/18 at 15:34:59
 
raydawg wrote on 07/11/18 at 15:18:01:
The Bible is written in a manner that you won’t be able to understand the ramifications if not taught by the Holy Spirit.


I hear iterations of this all the time...
Basically,... you have to believe in God to believe in God...

This could work for Santa and the Tooth Fairy too... Grin
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Reply #38 - 07/11/18 at 15:44:40
 
Ray
Dust from the sandals
Pearls before swine
It's pointless
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Reply #39 - 07/11/18 at 15:49:17
 
Serowbot wrote on 07/11/18 at 15:06:45:
"...The more we understand about the nature of the universe, the less we need a god. ..."

We have advanced, Greatly !

We have learned a great many things, that, dispelled myths, or explained them.
Why stop now, just because someone, ‘believes’ in NOT, ‘Believing’.

Real fast forward in 1869, (when the Golden Spike was driven) who would have even dreamed about a airplane.
In 1919, who would of thought a a airplane that could go 5 times faster than the speed of sound.
In 1969, who would have thought their could have been a man on the moon.
In 2000, who would have thought, the computing power on the LLM/LOM, would be equal to the $9.95 watch at mart-mart.
In 2018, who would of thought a portable cell phone would be glued to the ear of people over the age of 8.

What is next?
All sorts of un-imagined wonders, we only dream of now.

Just because, at one time,  it was believed, the Earth was flat, or the sun revolved around it.
We we all grew in knowledge, and now know the, ‘Earth’ is Round, and the, ‘Earth’, revolves around the sun.

YET.    No one, “Threw Away The Earth"

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #40 - 07/11/18 at 16:01:15
 
It is pretty special to read about the want to protect the white Christian man in USA considering it was him who basically genocided the original Americans out of existence and took their land and then went on to hold slaves  Grin

When I was a teenager many decades ago, my biggest dream was having to ability to go back in time to cirka 1500, but bringing a modern helicopter with modern weapons and waste the white man as he tried to step onto American land. Since I am not a killer, I probably could never have pulled it through, but I sincerely believe the white man raped the original population so bad it defies description.

Speaking of killing; I find it rather funny that so many Christians are fan of guns. Thou shalt not kill doesn't say "unless you feel threatened". It says not kill. Period.

http://www.biblestudy.org/question/what-does-thou-shall-not-kill-mean.html

However, all people will find ways to explain and defend what they do are OK. I'm no different. Doesn't make it any more right  Wink
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Reply #41 - 07/11/18 at 17:22:40
 
Serowbot wrote on 07/11/18 at 15:34:59:
raydawg wrote on 07/11/18 at 15:18:01:
The Bible is written in a manner that you won’t be able to understand the ramifications if not taught by the Holy Spirit.


I hear iterations of this all the time...
Basically,... you have to believe in God to believe in God...

This could work for Santa and the Tooth Fairy too... Grin


No, you missed it totally.

However, I don’t need you to be wrong, for me to be right.
It’s you buddy, who is saddled to a dogma.
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Reply #42 - 07/11/18 at 17:23:47
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/11/18 at 15:44:40:
Ray
Dust from the sandals
Pearls before swine
It's pointless


Thanks Jog, I get it.....

Plant upon soil that can bear, is a wise farmer 😋
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Reply #43 - 07/11/18 at 17:38:45
 
When I was a teenager many decades ago, my biggest dream was having to ability to go back in time to cirka 1500, but bringing a modern helicopter with modern weapons and waste the white man as he tried to step onto American land. Since I am not a killer, I probably could never have pulled it through, but I sincerely believe the white man raped the original population so bad it defies description.

Hey, they should have stopped killing each other and advanced technologically if they wanted to survive.
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Reply #44 - 07/11/18 at 22:41:33
 
faffi wrote on 07/11/18 at 16:01:15:
It is pretty special to read about the want to protect the white Christian man in USA considering it was him who basically genocided the original Americans out of existence and took their land and then went on to hold slaves  Grin

When I was a teenager many decades ago, my biggest dream was having to ability to go back in time to cirka 1500, but bringing a modern helicopter with modern weapons and waste the white man as he tried to step onto American land. Since I am not a killer, I probably could never have pulled it through, but I sincerely believe the white man raped the original population so bad it defies description.

Speaking of killing; I find it rather funny that so many Christians are fan of guns. Thou shalt not kill doesn't say "unless you feel threatened". It says not kill. Period.

http://www.biblestudy.org/question/what-does-thou-shall-not-kill-mean.html

However, all people will find ways to explain and defend what they do are OK. I'm no different. Doesn't make it any more right  Wink



You whole observation is moot, period.
It’s totally self serving and self promotion based on nothing.

It’s sorta like Back to the Furure 2, where he gets a sports magazine with the scores, and uses it to build a fortune with it...

Who wouldn’t do things differently if you had do-overs?

Yeah, like Bot and assigning fairy tales to religion....
Only one thing wrong with his analogy.
You outgrow fairytales as you wise up...
With religion, you grow up, hopefully to be more like Jesus, as you grow into a understanding.



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