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Reply #45 - 07/11/18 at 23:47:22
 
Speaking of killing; I find it rather funny that so many Christians are fan of guns. Thou shalt not kill doesn't say "unless you feel threatened". It says not kill. Period.


You're ignorant.
Why would Jesus have instructed Peter to sell his cloak to buy a sword?
Nowhere in the bible is there instruction to not protect yourself.

The Word you are so determined to quote is what they used when
Murder
Was what they should have used.
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Reply #46 - 07/12/18 at 00:27:56
 
faffi wrote on 07/11/18 at 16:01:15:
Speaking of killing; I find it rather funny that so many Christians are fan of guns.



Very well explained in this cartoon that appeared in Bowling For Columbine ...
https://youtu.be/lGYFRzf2Xww
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Reply #47 - 07/12/18 at 00:33:23
 
WebsterMark wrote on 07/11/18 at 15:18:27:
...We don't see death often enough to force a confrontation with our mortality.



Not sure why you're on a biking forum if you don't ride a bike!
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Reply #48 - 07/12/18 at 03:55:45
 
Who said I don't ride? I have three bukes right now.
YZ250
Suzuki Vstrom
and my new favorite, a Honda CTX700DCT, DCT stands for Dual Clutch Transmission or call it an Automatic.

I wasn't sure about no clutch or shift level but man its fun to ride! I can see more and more bikes going this direction. New Goldwings have DCT transmissions now. I'd consider getting one but I don't tour enough to justify it.
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Reply #49 - 07/12/18 at 05:52:15
 
I am not sure where to start with this. It always interest me that those which know nothing about the Christian faith are such big critics.

Lets start with "White Christian" The Christian faith has nothing to do with white people, however millions of white people do follow the faith. Jesus was not white, nor was Abraham, Moses, Jacob, Paul, Peter or any other person in the Bible. The Bible teaches that ALL Humans are descendants of Adam and Eve the first two created beings and that we are ALL made in the image of God. This is what gives all humans VALUE. For those that believe in Darwinism he believed (as stated in his book Origin of the Species) that Black people evolved at a much later time and from different animals and this explained why they were so inferior to white people. The Bible does NOT separate humans by "RACE" in fact there is only one place in the Bible where a persons skin color is mentioned, it says "Esau was born with red skin" However it does separate people by culture and through that we can guess what color skin a person may have had.

There are Christians from all races all over the world. Actually Christianity is booming right now particularly in the Latino countries, Eastern countries and yes the Middle East.

I guess you are talking about what is considered the declining numbers of white people in Western Culture that are Christian. Yes in the USA there is a decline in all Christian churches with one exception, Evangelical Baptist Churches and they are only growing marginally. Why is a big question and I am sure would have a lot of opinions.

I think Web hit on one of the biggest issues in Western Culture. We simply have so much we do not feel we need a God. We have traded God for stuff.                                                                                                    

Science is King in the USA, but it has been placed there incorrectly. Science is a discipline and the idea that science and religion don't mix is to reject half of what it means to be a human being. Science tells us a lot but science in not intended to or able to tell us everything. For instance science can help us to build an atomic weapon but it can not give us the answer of whether it is right or wrong to use that weapon. When people claim to only live by science they are deluding themselves.

I have stated before that Worldviews are important. There are 4 basic questions that need to be answered by any Worldview. (yes I know people are going to dispute this) but they are Origin, Meaning, Morality and Destiny. I could go on and on about this for hours but lets try to make a brief comparison of the Christian answers compared to the Secular answers to these issues.

Origin: we believe that God was the first cause that brought all into being and that ALL men are created in his image and that all human life is sacred because of this. For the secularist the Universe came about by accident. ( let me add something here. scientist have labeled this a "Singularity" something outside the laws of physics, and scientific laws. There has always been a word for this. It is miracle). Humans just happen to evolve from the gooo and has no more value than a dog.

Meaning: for the Christian there is no issue with meaning or purpose we are here to honor and praise God, to be a part of a community that takes care of each other as we move toward eternity. The secular world has always struggled with this after all we are just cosmic accidents.

Morality: Christians have a focal point for Morality it is given to us by the creator through his caricature and his written word. It is consistent and applies to all human beings. For the secularist there is not continuity morality right and wrong are actually just a matter of opinion.

Destiny: For Christians we were created to live forever, in either this world or the next, for us death is not an end but a new beginning. for the secularist? well you die and that's it and eventually man will be extinct and all of it was for nothing.
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Reply #50 - 07/12/18 at 07:00:59
 
Origin, Meaning, Morality and Destiny.

Never seen it put like that.
Those are the Big Questions , tho, aren't they?
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Reply #51 - 07/12/18 at 08:21:24
 
Did you ever wonder,.. why God built the universe from the billions of galaxies to every single blade of grass, but he needed to dictate the bible.
Is he illiterate?...
Why not just go poof and make it appear like he did with everything else?...
Did we find the one thing he's not good at?...

You gotta' wonder... Huh
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Reply #52 - 07/12/18 at 09:51:26
 
Serowbot wrote on 07/12/18 at 08:21:24:
Did you ever wonder,.. why God built the universe from the billions of galaxies to every single blade of grass, but he needed to dictate the bible.
Is he illiterate?...
Why not just go poof and make it appear like he did with everything else?...
Did we find the one thing he's not good at?...

You gotta' wonder... Huh


The proving is in faith.....

You can't even be honest, you do not wonder, why say that.....?

You just wanna snark, YET, you hate others who employ the same technique.

You gotta' wonder... Huh
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Reply #53 - 07/12/18 at 10:32:03
 
eau de sauvage wrote on 07/12/18 at 00:33:23:
WebsterMark wrote on 07/11/18 at 15:18:27:
...We don't see death often enough to force a confrontation with our mortality.



Not sure why you're on a biking forum if you don't ride a bike!


Well this is just plain cute.....

You, a muck from down under, rabidly post any, and everything, about Trump, and you do not live in America......  Grin

The irony escape you Dundee?  
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Reply #54 - 07/12/18 at 10:34:47
 
raydawg wrote on 07/12/18 at 10:32:03:
eau de sauvage wrote on 07/12/18 at 00:33:23:
WebsterMark wrote on 07/11/18 at 15:18:27:
...We don't see death often enough to force a confrontation with our mortality.



Not sure why you're on a biking forum if you don't ride a bike!


Well this is just plain cute.....

You, a muck from down under, rabidly post any, and everything, about Trump, and you do not live in America......  Grin

The irony escape you Dundee?  



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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #55 - 07/12/18 at 10:47:03
 
POV's from other parts of the world aren't welcome?...
Is America the great ostrich farm?...

There is a world out there ya'know...



PS... Have you noticed Eau de Sauvage's avatar?....
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Reply #56 - 07/12/18 at 11:17:35
 
Serowbot wrote on 07/12/18 at 10:47:03:
POV's from other parts of the world aren't welcome?...
Is America the great ostrich farm?...

There is a world out there ya'know...



PS... Have you noticed Eau de Sauvage's avatar?....
Grin Grin Grin
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You mean, non savages too.....WOW

You are so open, and inclusive....... Roll Eyes

Perhaps you should study up on irony too sweetie  Kiss  
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Reply #57 - 07/12/18 at 12:07:35
 
Serowbot wrote on 07/12/18 at 10:47:03:
POV's from other parts of the world aren't welcome?...
Is America the great ostrich farm?...

Of course not. People from other countries, no problem about making a comment.


eau de sauvage wrote on 07/12/18 at 00:33:23:
Not sure why you're on a biking forum if you don't ride a bike!

I did not know that,
"...POV's ... ...  aren't welcome..."
if one does Not, have a M.C. ?
Or if it is, not, LS-650/S-40 ?
Or if it is one of 100+ variants of a LS-650/S-40.?


Guess it's perfectly OK, for one to not live in a country, and slam it.
Yet, when people point out, The irony, in the statement,
"...Not sure why you're on a biking forum if you don't ride a bike! ..."
In response to another POV.  That is wrong.









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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #58 - 07/12/18 at 12:44:12
 
eau de sauvage wrote on 07/12/18 at 00:27:56:
Very well explained in this cartoon that appeared in Bowling For Columbine

LOLOLOLOLOLOL
a Very old piece of propaganda full of lies,
made by a person that Hates Freedom and Guns.

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #59 - 07/12/18 at 13:34:43
 
Serowbot wrote on 07/12/18 at 08:21:24:
Did you ever wonder,.. why God built the universe from the billions of galaxies to every single blade of grass, but he needed to dictate the bible.
Is he illiterate?...
Why not just go poof and make it appear like he did with everything else?...
Did we find the one thing he's not good at?...

You gotta' wonder... Huh


If you are not aware the Bible is not A book. it is a compilation of 66 books written over a 4,ooo year span of time to 40 plus authors. It tells the story of Gods' involvement in history and his pursuit of his creation. If it was poofed into existence at one time it would be a prophetic book of history to come, not a narrative of what people have seen and experienced, verifiable by those still living.
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