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Reply #345 - 12/15/19 at 23:10:58
 

 I'd say for "Messing around on the web" any modern processor will do now.

 If you plan on running programs like modern games, photo-video editing software to make long videos etc. you will need some processing power.

 I could be wrong but given people use things like a Kindle, their TV, their Wrist watch etc. to surf the web now I don't think there's a lot out there that will bog down a processor that's been made in the past 8 years.

Am I missing something?
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Reply #346 - 12/16/19 at 13:58:28
 

No, not really.    If you use a good Linux like Mint Mate 19.2 you will get good performance out of older hardware that will not be degraded by Intel mitigations to the point the whole thing gets sluggish.

My $17.99 solid state SSD boot drive speedup put me back in the game for another few years at least, so I am good where I am equipment-wise.
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Reply #347 - 12/18/19 at 13:21:47
 

https://liliputing.com/2019/12/28-amd-renoir-chips-leaked-zen-2-processors-ra...


Remember me saying these words last week?   And I was also predicting this was going to prompt AMD to come out with all the chipsets they had been sitting on (sandbagging with them) because Intel simply had no competition to offer at that time and AMD was going to use the slack time wisely to move some more existing old inventory out of their pipelines at full price?

"One area where Intel still can do better than AMD apparently is LAPTOPS.  

This last bastion of Intel excellence is due to AMD sandbagging and not bringing forth their latest laptop chipsets and by doing so allowing Intel to ring in their Ice Lake line up unopposed by the proper current AMD hardware.

Intel spotted this window between AMD roll outs and slotted themselves into it very neatly -- Good Job, Intel.

By rolling Intel's latest and greatest into a slot where they were "competing against" two year old AMD processors Intel has scored themselves a win."


Well, that was last week ---- this week AMD has brought out 28 new 7nm laptop processors with Radeon graphics built into them.   Of this 28 at least six to eight are the more powerful low end desktop grade products intended to fill in the "expensive professional laptop" niches.


AMD’s next-gen line of 7nm Ryzen processors with integrated Radeon Vega graphics are on the way — and if this massive leak is to be believed, it looks like there are at least 28 new chips coming soon.

According to Redditor u/_rogame, the new chips were detailed in AMD’s 2019 Bootcamp drivers. While there aren’t many details about the CPU or GPU clock speeds or performance, these are all expected to be 7nm processors based on AMD’s Zen 2 architecture with graphics based on the company’s Vega GPU technology.

The lineup appears to be evenly divided between laptop and desktop processors.



On the laptop side, it looks like we can expect eight 15 watt processors that will compete with Intel’s Core U-series processors, as well as six higher-performance 45 watt processors aimed at Intel’s H-series products.

The desktop lineup includes six processors with TDP ratings of 65 watts, as well as eight 35 watt chips.

I should also point out that there are an even number of “Consumer” and “Pro” processors, which means you can effectively cut the number of chips in half for the most part. The Pro chips tend to have extra security features and they’re designed for computers sold to business and enterprise customers — so if you don’t fall into that category, you’ll most likely see laptops with a choice of four different 15-watt Renoir processors, three 45 watt processors, etc.



CES in January is the event where AMD will hit the stage in January, talking up these chipsets and wowing us with AMD's plans for 2020 ---- but please do remember that Intel's clever insertion of their slightly premature 10nm Ice Lake daughter board combo chipsets in December did indeed allow Intel to "rule the laptop world" for at least 1 month before being unseated by AMD's sandbagged but preexisting full lineup of 7nm Renoir laptop and desktop all in one chipsets.


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Reply #348 - 12/26/19 at 00:18:45
 

https://liliputing.com/2019/12/this-business-card-is-a-linux-computer-made-from-
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If you wanted to showcase your skills while hunting around for a new job, get lots of free international level advertising and expose yourself to those who would want to hire you --- you could do this.

"Martha, get this guy scheduled for an interview with Tom and his team to see if he fits their opening".

Also proves he is a dab hand with a soldering iron -- he hand built the boards.
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Reply #349 - 12/26/19 at 10:35:41
 

 I cant recall if this is the same guy but there were Linux business cards at a comic-con in Denver or Colorado Springs a few years ago.  The same booth had ties, bow-ties, watchbands etc. made from non-working boards.  But I do remember the business cards were useable and I might still have one somewhere.

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Reply #350 - 01/02/20 at 21:01:49
 

https://liliputing.com/2020/01/zotac-introduces-zbox-mini-pcs-with-intel-come...



Brand new generations of 7nm laptop processors are coming out from both AMD and Intel.   These last new 7nm generations of low wattage (15 watt, 7watt and below) processors now come with "good enough for light gaming" built in graphics and enough CPU and Graphics processing power to pass the old "will it run Far Cry" test --- and they will do it in a fan free noiseless format too.  

Watch these things become 7 watt and 5 watt CPUs inside the next 5nm generation which happens later on this year.   These will be very small, very economical chipsets.

Given a year or so to get replaced a couple of times by the upcoming competitive waves, these processors will slide down the competitive & price listings to become bottom of the barrel cheap.

You can watch these new laptop chipsets from Intel and AMD do this slide to the bottom death dance starting now, when they are still primo products that are still carrying a primo price bump.

5nm has started its VERY RAPID DEPLOYMENT stages, driven by the lower cost effects of not needing million dollar production masks being replaced all the time like all the 7nm generations required.    

The new direct burn EUV production equipment is what makes 5nm go, and it will go quite rapidly indeed.

Apple's A14 chipset is in full 5nm production runs RIGHT NOW at this point in time, and when it is done the production machinery is free to roll out other customer's first 5nm chipsets.


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Reply #351 - 01/06/20 at 13:55:41
 

CES is in full swing.   AMD will be presenting in a half an hour from now.

So far Intel has given out some vague stuff about processor speeds over 5 ghz, while also claiming "ground breaking methods" for fighting excessive HEAT,  the excessive HEAT that comes from their way way way overclocked 14nm CPUs.  

So, Intel 10nm isn't real yet, save for a very very few laptop chipsets.  

Last year AMD sandbagged EVERYTHING they had ready last year, sandbagging them so completely that they are just now releasing the AMD laptop generation that should have been released at the last (2019) CES.

Temptation again is for AMD to sandbag very strongly all over again as Intel still doesn't have any competitive desktop products that are anything beyond 14nm.

AMD has a 7nm+++ laptop series ready to announce at this show, but once again the temptation to sandbag it pretty much completely is out there in reality land.

Intel has no real STRONG competitive products that require a lot of response from AMD right now .......   AMD's new laptop chipsets outperform Intel by 2x and that is compared to Intel stuff that has not even arrived yet.


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So, as I thought Intel has not improved their desktop stuff any at all, so AMD is showing and comparing their new desktop stuff intentionally comparing it to Intel's dual socket workstation motherboards and the Intel dual quad core mainframe chipsets, just so as to get something from Intel that will display on the same COMPARISON CHART as the new AMD products.

No joke, AMD had wrap around CES main big screens that were the front wall and the two side walls, and they showed Intel's best on the left hand wall and the AMD current products were displaying wrapping all the way up the left wall, across the width of the main front wall and ending up on the right wall -- this is way way beyond expectations as far as AMD product improvements go.

Intel had made a big noise about their new 10nm laptop stuff, and remember, what they said about their domination was "real" only for less than 30 days  ----  but now the new generation 7nm AMD laptop processors are out now and these are TWICE AS GOOD as Intel's very very best next year's stuff and AMD can do it at 15 watts, not 45 watts and 60 watts like Intel has to use.  

And you can buy the new AMD stuff from retail sources inside 30-60 days from right now.   This is seriously beating up the brown vapor Intel stuff that is promised for NEXT YEAR at the very earliest .......

Threadripper is now up to 64 cores and 128 threads right now, and current new Threadripper outperforms the very biggest and best and baddest Intel dual socket quad core mainframe chipsets by a factor of 3 right now.

Intel simply got used to mop up the CES show floor in all the areas where AMD showed any new stuff.

AMD did not say a word about their pending 5nm product lines --- AMD has these in the can right now and they are in sample testing at motherboard vendors at this point in time and are almost ready right now for "at risk" production.  

Sandbagged, the lot of them .......

AMD has them and just needs a reason to trot them out .......   but Intel simply isn't good enough to be that reason right now.
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Reply #352 - 01/06/20 at 17:21:17
 
https://www.techradar.com/news/at-ces-2020-intel-fails-to-defend-its-crown-fr...

I just watched what passed for the Intel CES keynote presentation.   Lots of fluff and some vague brown vapor, but no real world beating products that are really real at all in any market segment.

HOWEVER, Intel's lips are moving so we all know what that means.   First, Intel has no stake in Android and for them to try to take any form of secondary credit for Google and the Android Play Store is absurd.   Ditto for Mediatek's modems (I can remember Intel suing Mediatek over those modems a year or so ago).

Intel is showing us NOTHING that they have invented.   And if the stinky little rumor that Samsung is actually running those 10nm laptop chipsets for Intel is true then things get even worse for Intel.

Intel has a serious problem right now.   AMD has "reality cleaned" Intel's clock but good for the next 2-3 years already (going by what Intel is presenting as their future "competitive" products and technologies which are all items that are "not real" right now).

These Intel projects all supposedly depend on new Intel production line stuff that is actually two summers away from right now assuming they actually get built on time.

AMD is back to sandbagging whole generations of stuff again but TSMC 5nm 15 layer lithography has such huge cost savings and so many production driven "productivity advantages" that AMD is going to have to go there anyway this year or next year simply by being driven by the HUGE production cost savings that is out on the table.


WARNING:   Samsung/IBM consortium has also completed their gate all around 3nm process and Samsung is working on 3nm mobile processor designs and already has a working 5nm FinFet SOC chipset design that are able to be built on these same process lines.
 
Samsung is trying to be a foundry source again, and if Intel picks up on all that Samsung is offering them right now it could all get real interesting real quick like ..... but that presupposes Intel has the brains and balls to actually go do that.


It must be painful to be an Intel show presenter, showcasing your next 2021 year's stuff that AMD had just highlighted in their own presentation as only being half as good as what AMD was presenting today (shipping in 60 days).   This man knows that by the time he can ship what he is showing that AMD will be working on their 5nm generation's second improvement wave and that has to weigh on his mind quite a bit.



What'cha got in your hands, dude?    Where did you get it from?   Never do say out loud, do you ????   You just talk about Intel's future laptop plans for summer after next ...... and all them narsty Samsung and TSMC brown vapor rumors just keep a swirling around and around and around yer head faster and faster so strong now that you had to shave off all your hair just to keep the swirly hair effects in control .......
REMEMBER, Intel has NEVER EVER built a phone style SOC so who built this one for you ?????



I especially like the way Intel took "credit" for the Mediatek modems that they are buying --- and the credit they took for the items in the Google Android Play Store.   And the long haired hippy like graphics dude was a hoot and a half, really, he makes the whole thing worth watching.


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Forbes, and two tech review magazines all bring up the same exact points ---- Intel did NOT announce a new chipset at CES although they showed a new chipset and a new motherboard and talked some about Tiger Lake BUT they never actually said there was a connection between what they showed and what they talked about.

The nasty rumor about Samsung is still circulating, and it does provide a rational why Intel won't say what that chipset was nor where it actually came from.

Intel may plan to buy the equipment and make their own stuff eventually, and they certainly need whatever image building things that they can buy, borrow or steal right now because their image is really low at the moment.

Intel is certainly resting in a rough patch right now currently losing 2-3% market share per month with the potential for that rate to increase as the AMD laptop chipsets begin to get real world reviewed with no real Intel competitor class chipsets being built into products at this point in time.

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Reply #353 - 01/09/20 at 11:35:29
 
 
https://liliputing.com/2020/01/this-is-intels-first-discrete-graphics-card-th...

More Intel "progress" as shown behind closed doors at CES 2020




Intel has been investing heavily in improving graphics performance of its processors, and the company is starting to share a few details at the Consumer Electronics Show. Among other things, Intel has revealed the Intel DG1 graphics card with next-gen Intel Xe graphics.

The company has also made it clear that this isn’t actually a graphics card you’ll be able to buy and put into a desktop computer… and you probably wouldn’t want to anyway.

Instead it’s aimed at software developers. The chip maker is sending samples out to help ensure that by the time Intel is ready to ship processors with its next-gen graphics, third-party software is able to take advantage of the new GPU technology.


Huh

Yeah, we want you to volunteer to spend your time writing software to use this turd of a GPU, yeah, this smoking brown fuming one one that we won't even let you keep after you review it.


While the Intel DG1 looks a lot like the kind of desktop graphics card you’d expect from NVIDIA or AMD, it’s more of a laptop GPU crammed inside of a desktop PCIe card.

According to The Verge, the card has a 20-watt (give or take) GPU that can consume up to 40 or 50 watts of PCIe bus power. But it’s basically using the same GPU technology that will be featured in Intel’s upcoming “Tiger Lake” U-series laptop processors, which are expected to be chips that use around 15 to 25 watts each for both the CPU and GPU.

huh ?????

Now what is amazing to me is that the new AMD all in one laptop units have 15 watt draw in total for both the CPU and GPU with a super powered variant that is "desktop grade" for use in super laptops that will draw 45 watts in total for both items.  

However, this Intel puppy is ALL HEATSINK, and it is obviously is built using Intel's new super heat sink technology which can magically dissipate 50-60 watts of heat from a 20 watt graphics card.   ...... and no, I am not bull shooting you, the heat sink is simply miraculous in that it can disperse twice as many watts of pure heat as the card is supposedly supposed to draw power-wise, period.    

When you get good enough to say that with a straight face, you too can go to work for Intel as a marketing manager.

The second rub is that the AMD units are real and are shipping from multiple vendors for real starting in February or March ---- meanwhile Intel is so far away from real at the moment that they won't even sell anyone a sample of their super duper graphics card.  

Why?  

For fear somebody might actually go buy a copy of it and then fairly benchmark it and publish the results .....

..... and it is really really is that totally sorry of a GPU right now such that Intel doesn't want it tested at all, ever, by anybody.    Ever.   Intel just fired the new honcho that they had put in charge of the project, he was simply unable to make it stop fuming those constant nauseous brown decomposition fumes from the slowly blackening overcooked potting resins.


Roll Eyes    ......  hey, I am just joking ----- I think.


NEW INFORMATION leaked out 4 weeks later --- Intel didn't run these boards, TSMC did.

New assumption for Intel "new stuff" --- if it is new tech, then Intel didn't run it -- look towards TSMC or Samsung as Intel doesn't own the tech to run modern new stuff yet.

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Reply #354 - 01/11/20 at 17:11:41
 

CES 2020 is over.

Here is a brief synopsis of what was announced.

AMD announced 3 new laptop chipset lines sporting new graphics generations that will come in between 10-15-25 watt ranges depending mostly on the number of graphics cores they sport.

These AMD all in ones kick the butt of what Intel put out a month ago by a factor of 2x on the heaviest most powerful units .....  

(ranges up to 3x on the lesser levels as Intel tends to run a bit wimpy graphically on the lesser units)

Intel has announced ..... NOTHING but some vague plans for a 1-2 year out time frame.   Nothing that Intel has vapor announced beats what AMD has for real, right now.

AMD announced a 64 core Threadripper that simply tears up ALL KNOWN Intel mainframe chipsets, no matter how many sockets or cores that they may have.   Intel's multisocket chipsets start around $12,000 just for the multiple CPUs that they require ...... and current draw to support Intel's big guns runs in multiples of 300 watts, depending on the system board rack configurations (since you HAVE to have  independent rack type power supplies for the largest Intel installations).

AMD requires no more than 250 watts off a large PC type power supply to provide juice for their biggest Threadripper systems, which are dual socket units on a normal looking fits in a vertical case motherboard.  

The new AMD Threadripper just announced is a $4,000 single socket motherboard normal enough looking large case PC rig up with six cpu clusters making up 64 cores on a single socket system and it pulls up to 250 watts of power unless it is overclocked (which is hardly necessary as it already moves along twice (2x) as much processing power compared to Intel's finest super heated overclocked monstrosities).

Yes, the newest Treadripper is smaller physically and requires less power to run it than the last generation of Treadripper big boys required power-wise.....


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AMD has returned to Sandbagging Mode again ...... they have two 7nm+++ generations sitting in the can at this time that they will not roll them out until Intel (or somebody) does something to require them to move these out into production and into distribution.   AMD has lots & lots of time to sell off old stocks at full price, in other words.

AMD also has the first generations of 5nm FinFet designed and ready, and the first generation of at risk production of 3nm Gate All Around is out in testing with their motherboard vendors and business partners.


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Apple, Mediatek, Huawei and Samsung are all actually closer to being real AMD technical competitors than Intel is at the moment.

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Reply #355 - 01/20/20 at 01:41:36
 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15385/intels-confusing-messaging-is-comet-lake...

I just read up on Comet Lake vs Ice Lake vs Ryzen mobile (the newest one).

Comet Lake is last year's 14nm+++ with an extra core or two, and it is faster than Ice Lake due to that fact (but only mildly and only in tasks that actually use the extra core counts.

So, Intel has come up with a new chipset designation that smells very "same old, same old" as far as specs or throughput numbers.  Intel is actually catching grief from their fanboys now because of this very vapor based ambivalent "performance increase".   Indeed, Intel's advertised stuff shows a mixed bag of wins between their older production and their newest laptop chipsets.

Intel Tiger Lake is very likely not initially being run on Intel equipment, and it does have somebody's AI adder chipset in it to give it some sort of brown vapor processing advantage.   In short, between Tiger Lake, Comet Lake and Ice Lake the consumer/user is hard pressed to justify all the extra dollars that he has just spent buying the latest and greatest from Intel.


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So, AMD is sandbagging now all over their competitive product lines because they HAVE NO PRESSING COMPETITION OUT THERE and AMD prefers to sell out their existing stocks of chipsets at full price, only replacing them with newer models when warehouse stocks run dry in their distribution network.

AMD will use their 2020 allocation of 5nm production at TSMC to selectively crush anything that Intel has that gets close to working "competitively".   Do not expect AMD to do anything significant unless a competitor pushes on them a bit ---- and Intel isn't pushing anybody for much any more.

CONFIRMED:  Intel is having a few certain select chipsets being run by TSMC for them.  Ditto for Samsung running a very few certain select items for Intel.

Whenever Intel announces a new new 7nm chipset it likely isn't being run at Intel.    Not at first, anyway.

Watch Intel stop spending money on their in-house production processes and just buy what they need from the foundry guys.

Issue now becomes that Intel's new designs have nothing distinctive to offer as "progressive" or "innovative" no matter who runs them or on what equipment.   This is due to Intel's base designs being so old and relatively poor technically.

AS SUCH, AMD now needs a new motivating pusher to push them forward.

The next wave of innovation will likely take place due to Apple and the phone guys buying new tech to compete with each other in phone space, and this new tech will only roll over to computers if it offers better production yield numbers or some extra layers of "direct burn" on-chip direct access CPU and GPU memory, etc. etc.
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Reply #356 - 01/25/20 at 16:20:26
 

There have been several very good articles written this past month about Intel and their very slow decline after being upstaged and dethroned by AMD.

Point made is that Intel is MASSIVE, Intel is still holding on to 85% of the total market share and that inertia mass is being re-enforced by some very restrictive contracts that Intel forced builders to sign up order to be allowed to order Intel chipsets ANY AT ALL in the past 20 years.

In the EU, such restrictive "restraint of trade" contracts have been invalidated by the EU in direct actions, but until all major nations do likewise Intel still has a contractual choke hold on the throats of the PC industry.

Next, AMD's technical superiority is only one generation deep and is somewhat marginal at the moment compared to the complete total industry wide big picture.   Intel is close behind them, in other words.

Intel has now begun to get some key products "advanced technically" by having them run in lot sizes at Samsung and TSMC -- a short term but very necessary thing that Intel must do to keep from slipping further into irrelevance.

Intel has deep pockets and Intel can afford to pay cash to buy the tech they need.  Intel blew over 30 billion dollars trying to do 10nm repeatedly "the Intel way" so they can certainly afford to pay 20 billion over the next few years to run their Intel 7nm at Samsung and TSMC in order to become competitive again.


Getting things into perspective.

Intel makes more money each month than AMD makes in a year.   This is still true even after Intel has lost every technical crown that they had once owned.  

Intel can just buy what they need from Samsung and TSMC, just like Apple does ......

AMD cannot grow any faster that what they are growing, they simply cannot take over more Intel market share faster than they are already doing it right now.

AMD's biggest danger is failing to supply the chipsets they have taken orders for ...... as Intel continues to do because of their "shortages".


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Taken world-wide, 2020 demand for PC processors exceeds what both AMD and Intel together can currently supply.  Both are booked up 100%.

Both companies are struggling to make their already sold shipments on time.

Newest semi-confirmed rumors are that Intel is buying most of their low end Core I3s and their new low end Pentium class of processors, all of these old tech requirements are coming from Global Foundries since Global can do an old style 22nm or 16nm or 14nm for them using something that is quite similar to the Intel production methodologies.

So we now have Intel running various levels of production at all their old competitors just to make up their production shortfalls.  Intel is also running the newest lithography levels that Intel simply cannot do in house (due to a lack of modern technology) at Samsung and TSMC just to keep from giving it all over to AMD on a platter ......

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Reply #357 - 02/07/20 at 13:46:34
 
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According to a series of tweets from @_rogame, there are multiple references to AMD components in the code for MacOS 10.15.4 Beta 1, suggesting that an upcoming MacBook or Mac desktop computer could feature an AMD processor and/or AMD graphics.

Supporting AMD processors wouldn’t be as drastic a move as switching from PowerPC to Intel or from Intel to ARM, because AMD chips are based on the same x86 architecture as Intel processors. But there are enough differences that it makes sense for Apple to build optimizations for the new chips into the code of its operating system in order to support AMD components.



Apple would not jump ship from Intel 100% right off the bat, but they certainly could (and would) cherry pick the best winner out of the AMD current laptop crop to start out with if they were going to be picking up AMD as a secondary laptop line.

It seems likely this pathway is the current Apple intention, as Apple can also still do their own home grown ARM processors if they thought it was the most competitive pathway.
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Re: 2020 -- new Intel failures & successes
Reply #358 - 02/10/20 at 12:07:23
 

At my wife's request I will only touch her Windows machine when she asks me to.

She only asks when it clogs up to the point it won't run at all.

This time she had 4 new adwares installed on her machine.  She had been hijacked 4x in other words.

She had 4 instances of dropbox trying to run at the same time, all using one drop box account out on the net.

She had 6 instances of Firefox all trying to run at the same time, with at least 3 of them attempting to update Firefox to a newer revision.

She had 8 Microsoft system alerts running in the background trying to fix her very broken Windows 10 machine.

She had zero free memory and approaching zero free hard drive space.  This was from  multiple multiple backed up MS nightly updates eating up all her spare hard drive space.



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I had been reading that MS had hit a new low in totally screwing up user's home computers, and now I believe it.



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Re: 2020 -- new Intel failures & successes
Reply #359 - 02/12/20 at 14:17:37
 

https://www.zdnet.com/article/intels-horrible-bad-terrible-week-amid-aws-qual...

This is the head Editor guy at ZDNET putting out a plain warning that Intel is heading for a very serious "technical debacle" in 2020 based upon the decisions made by Intel right at the end of 2019 all of which are rapidly becoming "cast in stone" REAL day by day in January/February/March 2020.

There are a good half dozen to a dozen different crisis items that Intel has either folded on or punted on instead of competing in a responsive manner.   ZDNET's point is that giving up across the board isn't anything but a proactive funeral being self conducted by Intel and that is what is happening right now.

Next, Intel hasn't got anything that is real for right now -- nothing is going to be real sooner than next summer sometimes or another.  By the time it comes due to be real it will all be passe' and all totally overcome by competitive real events.

And I think he is saying that the industry as a whole is currently busy dicing up the turf that Intel has abandoned -- and that Intel really isn't relevant to the futures that are being discussed even as early as January 2020.

Tongue

It does not matter how big Intel is if they simply give up and do not chose to struggle with the details any more in any meaningful fashion.  

Saying that Intel is "rolling away from being dependent on the PC industry" is fine, Intel has actually made this decision twice previously and Intel found that they HAD to reverse course fairly quickly because of a LACK OF INCOME FLOW when their replacement plans went tits up.
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