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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 4997 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: loose stone put a hole in my crankcase :( Reply #15 - 12/03/17 at 07:53:17 No doubt Armen. It always makes my day when my bike throws me to the ground with helmet shattering force. 2.4 Qts will do it every time. I say fix it right and then make a skid plate.
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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Online Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10592 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: loose stone put a hole in my crankcase :( Reply #16 - 12/03/17 at 08:10:47 Make it a steel plate, not aluminum.
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Reply #17 - 12/03/17 at 08:28:20

Arman is correct, in its current state the engine is unrepairable. The only repair are new case halves or a replacement engine. If you’ve ever considered a big bore engine, now is a good time. An engine swap for the LS650 is a significant undertaking as it can’t be removed from the frame without some degree of disassembly. I believe the head need to be removed.

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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 4997 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: loose stone put a hole in my crankcase :( Reply #18 - 12/03/17 at 08:40:10 No , remove exhaust , carb & forward controls and out she comes ,maybe remove the chrome head covers.
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Reply #20 - 12/03/17 at 10:18:45

hotrod wrote on 12/02/17 at 08:15:48:

WOW . Never saw anything like that. Feel bad for you. Good luck.

Fairly common in a collision though. Forks break or bend severely and the front wheel gets shoved into the crankcase. I got this engine from a wrecked bike with only 1500 miles on it from ebay. I had good cases on hand so I simply swapped the (nearly) new internals into the good cases.

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Reply #21 - 12/03/17 at 15:04:47

Armen wrote on 12/03/17 at 07:43:45:

Something to think about for the folks that suggested gobbering up a plate with some gorilla snot:
If the repair leaks at any time-now or in the distant future, a bunch of warm slippery oil will head toward the rear tire in a hurry.
I'm one of those that believes that a painful early death is greatly over-rated as a good time Wink

@armen
thanks for letting me know! I haven't gone down yet and oil slicked tire sounds like a hellavuh to make it happen.

I'll look around at the metal plate option or sell if the price is out of my budget.

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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 4997 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: loose stone put a hole in my crankcase :( Reply #22 - 12/03/17 at 15:11:30 Wow , from the size of that hole it looks like you were riding in a dry riverbed !
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Reply #23 - 12/03/17 at 15:17:01

Fast 650 wrote on 12/03/17 at 10:18:45:

hotrod wrote on 12/02/17 at 08:15:48:

WOW . Never saw anything like that. Feel bad for you. Good luck.

Fairly common in a collision though. Forks break or bend severely and the front wheel gets shoved into the crankcase. I got this engine from a wrecked bike with only 1500 miles on it from ebay. I had good cases on hand so I simply swapped the (nearly) new internals into the good cases.

well on the bright side, I haven't spent much effort customizing the bike, so whatever I do next isn't so bad... Buying a used decent motor and swapping the cases seems out of my budget for now. I was really looking for a $400 or less solution.

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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 4997 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: loose stone put a hole in my crankcase :( Reply #24 - 12/03/17 at 16:34:32 Guess I'm gonna make me a boulder deflector for the tracker. I can see that happening where and how I ride.
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Reply #25 - 12/04/17 at 06:31:24

Get a used Savage. If you like it, great. If you like yours better, swap motors. Then bell the rest. Someone on here will take the top end, clutch, starter, chain tensioner. Someone will take your forks, shocks, foot controls, etc. You'll be able to move your tank, seats, side panels, battery box, etc. The handlebars and hand controls will sell. The carburetor will sell. You can probably pay off the second bike when it's all done and said.

EDIT: Stupid SPAM filter wouldn't let me use words like "buy" and "sell" in my original post. Nice used bikes in my area can be had for $1000-$1500.

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ohiomoto Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2681 WTF is JOG?	Re: loose stone put a hole in my crankcase :( Reply #26 - 12/04/17 at 06:34:29 I have a bottom end you can have for next to nothing but it's a 4-speed unit. Not sure if the cases are any different.
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Reply #27 - 12/04/17 at 06:55:35

If the threat of oil on the rear tire is your worry, I would quit worrying. A small drip of oil now and again will do no harm to your handling. If it would be a big enough leak to affect tire, then the engine would go quickly due to lack of oil - so . . . only a catastrophic loss of oil would present any danger.

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Reply #28 - 12/04/17 at 07:09:26

piedmontbuckeye wrote on 12/04/17 at 06:55:35:
If the threat of oil on the rear tire is your worry, I would quit worrying. A small drip of oil now and again will do no harm to your handling. If it would be a big enough leak to affect tire, then the engine would go quickly due to lack of oil - so . . . only a catastrophic loss of oil would present any danger.

What if it's not a drip, but a steady stream that takes 2 to 4 minutes to evacuate the crank case. You'd be on your ass far before the engine ceased.

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Re: loose stone put a hole in my crankcase :(
Reply #29 - 12/04/17 at 07:38:30

ohiomoto wrote on 12/04/17 at 06:34:29:

I have a bottom end you can have for next to nothing but it's a 4-speed unit. Not sure if the cases are any different.

I haven't seen any difference in the clutch side, but the stator side is different after '95 for the starter torque limiter, which you want to keep.
You'll also need to swap the rotor, timing is different between early and late models.

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