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Papa Bear Senior Member Offline Posts: 476 Canada ... near the Motor City Gender:	Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... 09/21/17 at 05:32:14 Put the key in and pressed the button and ..... nothing Lights came on when I turned the key on. When I pushed the start button the lights went dim and there was no click - no start. Release the start button and the lights came back up. I can't look at it until after lunch but any advice would be appreciated.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 17804 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Reply #1 - 09/21/17 at 05:47:13 It could be a low battery, the clutch safety switch........or........ I can't remember if the "kill" switch disables the starter button?
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ohiomoto Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2681 WTF is JOG?	Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Reply #2 - 09/21/17 at 06:58:51 Sounds like a battery. I'd start there.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28755 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Reply #3 - 09/21/17 at 07:21:53 most likely battery, but could be decomp solenoid adjustment.
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Reply #4 - 09/21/17 at 07:33:59

Dave wrote on 09/21/17 at 05:47:13:

It could be a low battery, the clutch safety switch........or........ I can't remember if the "kill" switch disables the starter button?

I think yes. IIRC, I often go to start mine and forget that I used the kill switch to shut it off, and wonder why I get no response. Then I flip the kill switch and crisis averted.

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Papa Bear Senior Member Offline Posts: 476 Canada ... near the Motor City Gender:	Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Reply #5 - 09/21/17 at 08:52:11 What, when I push the start button, could be engaging that pulls the lights down but doesn't go "click"??
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 17804 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Reply #6 - 09/21/17 at 09:01:20 It's possible that if the battery has given up.....pushing the start button may take away what little juice the battery has - and there isn't enough power to activate a "click". I believe that in 2004 the wiring was changed, so that the headlight is disconnected when the starter button is pushed.
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Reply #7 - 09/21/17 at 09:10:57

Dave wrote on 09/21/17 at 09:01:20:

It's possible that if the battery has given up.....pushing the start button may take away what little juice the battery has - and there isn't enough power to activate a "click".

I believe that in 2004 the wiring was changed, so that the headlight is disconnected when the starter button is pushed.

It was changed in 2005
A quick check of the wiring diagrams would tell but...

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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 17804 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Reply #8 - 09/21/17 at 09:14:57 Yep...2004 was the last year without the 4 flashers and push to pass switch for the headlight - the 2005 model got that stuff, along with the headlight that shuts off when you hit the starter button.....and I believe the shape of the turn signals changed as well.
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8006	Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Reply #9 - 09/21/17 at 09:26:19 If the kill switch didn't stop the bike from starting wouldn't we need to flip it up then down again each time we wanted to use it?
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Reply #10 - 09/21/17 at 10:49:41 I suffered the same thing ,earlier this this year,found a loose positive cable at the battery .Vibration loosened the bolt there was enough contact to have lights but not enough to carry all the amps for the starter motor ,and when I hit the starter button the lights died.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 17804 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Reply #11 - 09/21/17 at 10:57:47 Eegore wrote on 09/21/17 at 09:26:19: If the kill switch didn't stop the bike from starting wouldn't we need to flip it up then down again each time we wanted to use it? No.
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Reply #12 - 09/21/17 at 12:53:10

Success !!

After taking every last thing apart on the bike I found that the clutch switch is sticking intermittently, not returning to the full out position when the clutch is pulled in.
I have it bypassed right now and will order a new switch..

I took the seat and tank off while troubleshooting and checked all the connectors. That's a good thing.

The bike's back together and I'm off for a spin to Point Pelee National Park just about 5 miles from my home. A great peaceful cruise Wink

Thanks for your help and moral support !!!

Bob

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stewmills Serious Thumper Offline Imagination is more important than knowledge Posts: 2626 Auburn, AL Gender:	Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Reply #13 - 09/21/17 at 13:33:36 Did you try just shooting some WD40 in the switch? Had that happen to the brake switch on my Ninja and that's all it took. Seems that road debris just gets blown up in those switches and needs to b cleaned out. Has worked perfectly for over a year now.
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Papa Bear Senior Member Offline Posts: 476 Canada ... near the Motor City Gender:	Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Reply #14 - 09/21/17 at 14:16:44 Yes, I shot some WD-40 into it and clicked it a few times - still seems a little flaky. We'll see - thanks Stew
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