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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1505997134 Message started by Papa Bear on 09/21/17 at 05:32:14 |
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Title: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by Papa Bear on 09/21/17 at 05:32:14 Put the key in and pressed the button and ..... nothing :-[ Lights came on when I turned the key on. When I pushed the start button the lights went dim and there was no click - no start. Release the start button and the lights came back up. I can't look at it until after lunch but any advice would be appreciated. |
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Title: Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by Dave on 09/21/17 at 05:47:13 It could be a low battery, the clutch safety switch........or........ I can't remember if the "kill" switch disables the starter button? |
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Title: Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by ohiomoto on 09/21/17 at 06:58:51 Sounds like a battery. I'd start there. |
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Title: Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by verslagen1 on 09/21/17 at 07:21:53 most likely battery, but could be decomp solenoid adjustment. |
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Title: Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by stewmills on 09/21/17 at 07:33:59 6E55584F5E52494F545C514E3D0 wrote:
I think yes. IIRC, I often go to start mine and forget that I used the kill switch to shut it off, and wonder why I get no response. Then I flip the kill switch and crisis averted. |
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Title: Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by Papa Bear on 09/21/17 at 08:52:11 What, when I push the start button, could be engaging that pulls the lights down but doesn't go "click"?? |
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Title: Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by Dave on 09/21/17 at 09:01:20 It's possible that if the battery has given up.....pushing the start button may take away what little juice the battery has - and there isn't enough power to activate a "click". I believe that in 2004 the wiring was changed, so that the headlight is disconnected when the starter button is pushed. |
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Title: Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by verslagen1 on 09/21/17 at 09:10:57 7C474A5D4C405B5D464E435C2F0 wrote:
It was changed in 2005 A quick check of the wiring diagrams would tell but... |
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Title: Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by Dave on 09/21/17 at 09:14:57 Yep...2004 was the last year without the 4 flashers and push to pass switch for the headlight - the 2005 model got that stuff, along with the headlight that shuts off when you hit the starter button.....and I believe the shape of the turn signals changed as well. |
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Title: Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by Eegore on 09/21/17 at 09:26:19 If the kill switch didn't stop the bike from starting wouldn't we need to flip it up then down again each time we wanted to use it? |
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Title: Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by batman on 09/21/17 at 10:49:41 I suffered the same thing ,earlier this this year,found a loose positive cable at the battery .Vibration loosened the bolt there was enough contact to have lights but not enough to carry all the amps for the starter motor ,and when I hit the starter button the lights died. |
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Title: Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by Dave on 09/21/17 at 10:57:47 7050525A4750350 wrote:
No. |
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Title: Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by Papa Bear on 09/21/17 at 12:53:10 Success !! After taking every last thing apart on the bike I found that the clutch switch is sticking intermittently, not returning to the full out position when the clutch is pulled in. I have it bypassed right now and will order a new switch.. I took the seat and tank off while troubleshooting and checked all the connectors. That's a good thing. The bike's back together and I'm off for a spin to Point Pelee National Park just about 5 miles from my home. A great peaceful cruise ;) Thanks for your help and moral support !!! Bob |
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Title: Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by stewmills on 09/21/17 at 13:33:36 Did you try just shooting some WD40 in the switch? Had that happen to the brake switch on my Ninja and that's all it took. Seems that road debris just gets blown up in those switches and needs to b cleaned out. Has worked perfectly for over a year now. |
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Title: Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by Papa Bear on 09/21/17 at 14:16:44 Yes, I shot some WD-40 into it and clicked it a few times - still seems a little flaky. We'll see - thanks Stew |
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Title: Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by piedmontbuckeye on 09/21/17 at 14:22:05 2F3C2B2A35383E3C3768590 wrote:
How is the decomp apparatus supposed to work in conjunction with starting? I have been wondering as I have on several occasions had an issue with starting in colder weather (around 40 degrees). I try to ride mine every day to work - even when it is cold out. Also, is there a thread that demonstrates the proper way to do the solenoid adjustment as you describe? Thanks ahead of time! |
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Title: Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by norm92de on 09/21/17 at 14:40:21 Decompression solenoid. Adjust the pin to extend 4mm from the solenoid body, plus or minus 1mm. |
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Title: Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by verslagen1 on 09/21/17 at 15:44:16 3A232F2E2725243E283F29212F332F4A0 wrote:
How is the decomp apparatus supposed to work in conjunction with starting? I have been wondering as I have on several occasions had an issue with starting in colder weather (around 40 degrees). I try to ride mine every day to work - even when it is cold out. Also, is there a thread that demonstrates the proper way to do the solenoid adjustment as you describe? Thanks ahead of time! [/quote] I've forgotten if you can see it with the chrome caps on... The decomp lever will activate for about a half second when you push the start button. The adjustment should appear loose, when activated it will pull up. If it's not loose to start with, it won't have enough momentum to open up the exhaust valve. Just needs to kick it open a little bit to kill the compression on that 1st rev. If it has compression on that 1st rev, the starter will stall. Like we all said, check your bat 1st. If not fully charged, it may turn. But if it doesn't have 10v while turning you won't have spark. And if it's too weak it won't turn at all. |
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Title: Re: Crap !! Bike won't start this morning ...... Post by piedmontbuckeye on 09/23/17 at 12:31:56 My starting issues all had to do with it being cold (about 40 deg). One of the 4 or 5 times I think was my fault, as I forgot to pull out the choke. By the time I figured that out, the bat was then too low. The other times, the bike would crank over, but would not start, but the sound from the muffler was "bloop, bloop, bloop" and no matter what I would do from then on, it simply would not start. I figured that my turning the throttle too much/too little may have also been a contributor. If anyone has had this experience and there actually was a fix, I would appreciate the input. |
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