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Reply #15 - 07/07/17 at 11:24:15
 
The Science PROVES it was Warmer in medieval times than NOW, so, what is the big deal?
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Reply #16 - 07/07/17 at 11:26:40
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/07/17 at 11:24:15:
The Science PROVES it was Warmer in medieval times than NOW, so, what is the big deal?


RATE OF CHANGE IN THE LAST 100 YEARS
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Reply #17 - 07/07/17 at 11:28:58
 
How is it different from the years leading up to the warm period?
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Reply #18 - 07/07/17 at 11:32:37
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/07/17 at 11:28:58:
How is it different from the years leading up to the warm period?



Sigh....

https://www.skepticalscience.com/medieval-warm-period.htm

..the Medieval Warm Period has known causes which explain both the scale of the warmth and the pattern. It has now become clear to scientists that the Medieval Warm Period occurred during a time which had higher than average solar radiation and less volcanic activity (both resulting in warming). New evidence is also suggesting that changes in ocean circulation patterns played a very important role in bringing warmer seawater into the North Atlantic. This explains much of the extraordinary warmth in that region. These causes of warming contrast significantly with today's warming, which we know cannot be caused by the same mechanisms.
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speed of dark?

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Reply #19 - 07/07/17 at 12:11:14
 
Climate deniers don't believe in science...
They follow total nonscience...  Grin
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Ludicrous Speed !... ... Huh...
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Reply #20 - 07/07/17 at 14:30:31
 
I'm much the scientist. That's interesting,,
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Reply #21 - 07/07/17 at 18:40:54
 
T And T Garage wrote on 07/07/17 at 07:55:15:
pg wrote on 07/06/17 at 18:29:37:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/03/epa-funded-research-lab-accused-of-fabricat...

Duke University admitted Sunday that it used manipulated and completely fabricated data about respiratory illnesses to obtains grants from the Environmental Protection Agency, among other agencies.

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And this is relevant how?

ONE stupid, greedy person bilked the EPA out of grant money... BFD!

Nice try...


Actually, I feel it was an exemplary effort.  I illustrated how money can  compose & organize an argument.  Adults call these bribes & kickbacks....

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Reply #22 - 07/07/17 at 19:39:34
 
"...it was Warmer in medieval times than NOW..."

Gosh, ALL those Cars, and  Cow Farrts, are the reason.

"...No one here is arguing that there have been and will be changes in climate due to natural forces..."

What about all those cars, and Cow  Farrts ?

But of course, the, 'Medieval Period', did not change, 'rapidly'.
   (They had a  LOT of Cars and Cow Farrts then,
    according to Chicken Noodle News)


Yea, all those cars and Cow Farrts !

And of course,  everyone that 'understands', what is really going on,  throws  tires in the Ditch !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Totaly, unlike a person,  "Who  Invented the Internet',  Stuffed  BILLIONS, in his Pocket, from D.F.I.'s, who bought   TOXIC,  CFL's, and threw them in the Landfills, to  Pollute this Planet !

Yea,  the 'Ice age', is coming,  
Oh wait, 'Global warming', is coming
 Wait again, 'the Ice age is Coming'
   Hang on,  'Global warming', is coming.

Gotta  get rid of those Cars and Cow Farrts,





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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #23 - 07/07/17 at 20:04:24
 
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Reply #24 - 07/08/17 at 04:39:33
 
An Inconvenient Truth

Three weeks or so ago, we all got a good laugh from the New York Times fretting that China was in the process of seizing "climate leadership" from the United States.  As reported here on June 8, Pravda had just reported that China was aiming to win the "economic and diplomatic spoils" that would come from dominating the world markets for wind and solar energy.  Of course, this was big front-page news.

But wind and solar as sources of electricity are intermittent and fundamentally useless to power a 24/7/365 grid.  Are the Chinese really this stupid?  Or are they just putting up some token Potemkin village demonstration projects to deceive the deluded climate cultists into pressuring the U.S. to hobble its economy, even as China floods the world with hundreds of more coal plants?

Today's Pravda has the answer.  Of course, since the answer is inconvenient, it's not big front-page news, but rather buried on page A10.  The headline is "As Beijing Joins Climate Fight, Chinese Companies Build Coal Plants."   It seems that a German consultancy called Urgewald has gone out and compiled data on plans for new power plants around the world.  The compilation comes after a recent highly-publicized announcement that China had scaled back plans to build coal power plants, and had canceled more than 100 of them that had previously been planned.  That's "climate leadership"!  But according to the Urgewald data, even after the cancelations China seems to be gearing up to build some 700 new coal plants, both in China itself and in countries around the world:

China’s energy companies will make up nearly half of the new coal generation expected to go online in the next decade.  These Chinese corporations are building or planning to build more than 700 new coal plants at home and around the world, some in countries that today burn little or no coal, according to tallies compiled by Urgewald, an environmental group based in Berlin.

To give you an idea of the scale of this, the U.S. currently has around 600 coal generation units, of which close to 50 are currently scheduled for closure.  So, what the Chinese companies have in the pipeline for just the next few years is more than the entire U.S. capacity for generating electricity from coal.

And, of course, China is not the only one out there building new coal plants:

Over all, 1,600 coal plants are planned or under construction in 62 countries, according to Urgewald’s tally, which uses data from the Global Coal Plant Tracker portal. The new plants would expand the world’s coal-fired power capacity by 43 percent.  The fleet of new coal plants would make it virtually impossible to meet the goals set in the Paris climate accord, which aims to keep the increase in global temperatures from preindustrial levels below 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit.

Did you somehow have the impression that the Trump administration was going to destroy the world's environment by declining to join the Paris climate agreement and failing to cut back U.S. carbon emissions by around 25%?  Well, how is this even relevant to anything when the rest of the world is currently in the process of planning and building some three times as many coal electricity plants as the U.S. ever had?  See if you can find the answer to that question anywhere in Pravda!

The whole climate thing is quickly devolving into a game where countries around the world make preposterous and obviously false statements of intent to appease the climate cultists, while at the same time going ahead and developing the fossil fuel resources -- particularly coal -- just as fast as possible.  I just hope that you appreciate the humor.
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Reply #25 - 07/08/17 at 07:50:37
 
The ScienTISTS made dire predictions.
The Arctic is now ice free.
Well, no.
The hurricanes have been bigger, more destructive and more of them.
Well, noo, not exactly..

So, why are the continual WARNINGS listened to?
How long do you bow and scrape to Be PC before you admit
They haven't been RIGHT?
Why continue to pretend they are credible?
Their most dire predictions not only HaVen't happened,
They are inverted in the observed reality.
Florida went, what? Ten YEARS not pounded by a hurricane?
How many Scientific Expeditions to Prove what horrors exist have to be rescued by ICEBREAKERS before you start questioning the validity of the Fearmongers?

Naturophobics sharing their fears and screaming in unison won't change the Fact that
The warnings have been bullshit.
Keep responding to the Scientists who cried wolf.
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Reply #26 - 07/08/17 at 09:33:51
 
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Reply #27 - 07/10/17 at 09:56:26
 
See below. So Turkey will pull out of the Paris Climate scheme because the number one mark in this con, The United States, was smart enogh to figure out this was never about anything other than money. But climate scientists are pure as snow and would never mislead us for their own selfish gain....

The US decision to pull out of the Paris climate agreement means Turkey is less inclined to ratify the deal because the US move jeopardises compensation promised to developing countries, President Tayyip Erdogan said on Saturday.

Erdogan was speaking at the G20 summit in Germany where leaders from the world’s leading economies broke with US President Donald Trump over climate policy, following his announcement last month that he was withdrawing from the accord.

Erdogan said that when Turkey signed the accord France had promised that Turkey would be eligible for compensation for some of the financial costs of compliance.
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Reply #28 - 07/10/17 at 10:01:37
 
SMH at deniers...

Oh well, to each their own.  

I keep forgetting that there are still people out there that believe the Earth is flat, that angels really exist, believe in psychics, the devil, Bigfoot, the Lochness Monster, and ghosts.
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Reply #29 - 07/10/17 at 10:32:47
 
You and Sew are both foolish. You're playing the role of the Church in their battle against Galileo. Covering your ears and shouting out "Deniers....!" like a cowardly leader in some alternative world's version of a climate Inquisition.

Why do you push so hard against someone asking valid questions?

Even the Prophets of your Climate Religion admit their predictions have all been wrong, but they just blame it on obscure conditions that apparently weren't revealed to them before. Now they promise disaster is just around the corner and you must believe them this time.

You guys remind me of some Churches in 1999 who were positive Y2K was the start of the end times. When it came and went, they merely adjusted a few variables in their calculations, predicted a new end date in the future and posted a new link to send donations....

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