Serowbot wrote on 03/26/17 at 07:35:11:


Bot, could you read the Forum, you are the  Moderator of?
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1490289556/15#20
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Think that would answer you question, a day before you asked it.

Serowbot wrote on 03/26/17 at 07:35:11:


I've tried to go over this with you before, but honestly, you post funny smiley face and then disappear.

If you want to stick it through to the end, fine, I'll oblige. Not today however. Just made offer on new house which was accepted. My life's gonna be busy for a couple months!

But, one short version is 1) much of the world, NATO especially, depends upon our military. Perhaps more in the past, but still that's the case. That cost money. A lot of money. You could say we don't need to do that, but who would you rather be carrying the big stick; the USA or someone else? Look up the cost for military, servicing the debt, entitlements and now add whatever healthcare cost you think single payer would be. (by the way, whatever number you come up with, add 25% or show me history of how government programs always come in under budget....)  Can we do all that?

2) Competition improves service and lowers cost. Always. Never fails. Do we have competition in healthcare insurance now? No, we do not. Why not try that first?

3) Without the profit motive, why would R&D continue? Is there a technical product or service where the profit motive is removed and where you can show continued funding in R&D?

4) there's a perception that single payer is paradise. I've spoke to many people around the world about this. It's not. Services are rationed.

5) finally, the biggie for me: the USA has moved forward by keeping certain basic principals. Granted, some are under attack; free speech, free press for example. But are there products or services the State can force you to participate in against your will or pay a fine? Failure to pay that fine brings jail or forfeiture of property. If you earn income, you have to pay federal tax. There are other federal fees, but those are based upon usage. How can you constitutionally say a US citizen MUST obtain healthcare for himself or pay a fine or risk arrest?

as Gomer Pyle would say surprise surprise! I posted my last message after I read the first paragraph of this article and then lo and behold, as I read on, it hit up on the exact same topic I was thinking of which is namely contrasting health and auto insurance.

is the key to getting healthcare cost is under control  actually less insurance rather than more?

"If a politician promised to reduce the cost of driving by forcing auto insurers to pay for our cars, gasoline, tires, engine oil, windshield-wiper fluid, and all the other items and services we need to be on the road, we would all understand why our premiums would skyrocket—because those added costs would have to be accounted for.

And that’s just the beginning. Since drivers would not pay for our cars directly, we wouldn’t be careful about how we managed their costs. We wouldn’t search for cheaper gas or efficient mechanics, or care whether a more expensive tire was really worth it. We’d go to Maserati dealers for their latest model without worrying about how to finance the purchase, and simply tell the salesperson which insurer to bill.

Obviously, auto insurers would respond the same way health insurers have: Build networks of dealers, gas stations, and mechanics; and impose all kinds of rules and bureaucracies between them and drivers. However, because insurers are removed from drivers’ experiences, those rules would be ineffective—just like they have proved in health care."

now tweety is appointing his sil Kushner to revamp the government and "run it like a company"
how many bankruptcies has tweety filed??

It's FAILING now.
They would be insane to change anything. If they cut funding then the lefties will pretend THAT'S why it failed.

CNBC

You were lied to by someone.


etting even more expensive.

Deductibles for individuals enrolled in the lowest-priced Obamacare health plans will average more than $6,000 in 2017, the first time that threshold has been cracked in the three years that Affordable Care Act marketplaces have been in business, a new analysis finds.

Families enrolled in bronze plans will have average deductibles of $12,393, according to the study by the consumer insurance comparison site HealthPocket.

A deductible is the amount of money someone must personally pay out of pocket for health services before insurance covers the remaining cost.

HealthPocket also found that that average premiums, or monthly payments, for bronze plans nationwide will increase 21 percent next year for people who earn too much to qualify for Obamacare subsidies. A 40-year-old unsubsidized bronze plan customer would pay $350.23 each month for their health coverage, compared to $289.88 per month this year

Premiums beyond a car payment and deductibles of six thousand and up.
But, hey, look how many more are insured!

It's a Frikken Feline Butt Award and every one of its supporters should be too embarrassed to even Have an opinion on anything.