justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/24/17 at 20:59:03:

Again, no screw up except that it didn't go far enough.  Single payer should have been an option.

But then, all you care about is Obama being black, right?   What was that phrase?.... "porch something"?   How pathetic.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/24/17 at 22:01:47:

name someplace better

then move there

nice view from up there??

without the aca my wife's two knee ops would have bankrupted us
we are and have been working stiffs all our lives, making it at 114% of poverty level. not looking for a handout just a hand
medical costs are insane  $300 for an aspirin is immoral
thankfully I EARNED the use of the VA health care system

its easy to pidgin hole people when one views the world with a haughty disposition

HMO's sure didn't help... they just added a middleman that eats up a third of what you pay...

Single payer would eliminate that, and providers would save a ton in paperwork and paper-pushers...

Between the HMO's cut, all the paperwork needed in MD offices and hospitals, just going to universal health would save 30 to 50%...
Then,.. more regulation of costs would save more...

Some things do cost more because they are better...
Hospital beds used to be just functional beds with wheels...  Now, they are electronically adjustable, and have pulsing points to prevent bed sores, etc...
That's good,... but it costs.
We have MRI's CAT's, etc... treatments and tests that never existed before. Etc...
...but,.. oddly enough it doesn't seem to be raising lifespan or general health very much.
We aren't keeping up with other comparable countries health wise.

The secret sauce is single payer... non-profit.
Preventative medicine.
Less stress... stress is a killer.  worrying about bills and coverage, ain't helping people to heal.
Workers still get good pay... but there aren't all the rich shareholders asking for inflated pricing.

JOG the old system didn't work when the companies decided to stop paying for healthcare for their workers.  It is too expensive given the incredible costs for MRI and pharamceuticals at $300 a  pill.
HMO's were a disguised rationing system because too many didn't want the Government to do it.  There are many expenses to the medical system, some of them more prevalent in the black and Brown populations, others more in the white population.  

we could go to the kill all handicapped babies with major issues.  Save a lot of money.  we could kill everyone who hits 65, now that their "productive" years are over.  As something like a quarter of all health costs are caused by attempts to extend failing bodies, and alleviate conditions just prior to death; we could simply send those in nursing homes on to their reward (kill them).

For those of you who are squeamish, these are facts we have to face OR increase taxes on the wealthy (and perhaps add a small tax to the rest also) cause that is what it takes.  As an ever increasing percent of our workforce is made up of people in healthcare (MD< Nurses, therapists, billing and coding, office staff, manufactures of medical instruments etc,) we will have to make a hard choice.  Keep siphoning incredible amounts of money for the war machine or the health industry.  It should be our choice but so far It isn't, with the war machine supported by the Republican party mainstream.   Obamacare was an attempt to make this shift, but with the large number of mainstream Republicans it needed support from, it was a slap up I almost suspect designed to fail legislation with the future hidden from sight.  The Dems don't want the Republicans to accomplish anything good, so until both sides get it together, dysfunction continues.