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Reply #15 - 09/07/16 at 06:52:15
 
I just wanted to say...

I'm rather apprehensive as to whether changing the oil and adjusting the valves will halt the wear. If it was grinding away before, it may still grind away again. If the cam lobes are scratched/pitted rough....  Undecided

In the meantime, I'm gonna dump in some extra zddp with the new oil. Maybe that'll help.

Let's hope for the best. Undecided
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Reply #16 - 09/07/16 at 12:29:39
 
Xxx

STOP
ZDDP is NOT DUMPED.
It's, Measured and Added.
enough is enough, too much is bad.
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Reply #17 - 09/07/16 at 12:42:06
 
I may have less than half a bottle (<1 oz) of zddp maxx left. Half ounce per quart for racing app. with low zinc oil.Somewhat less for Rotella I guess. If I'm off, probably not too much. Remember, it's like break in oil in this case. It needs it this time.
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Reply #18 - 09/07/16 at 12:49:39
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/06/16 at 15:42:22:
You worry more than ride. Just stick a filter in and Ride.
It's not gonna die because the oil was insufficiently filtered.


What kinda Ferrous metal did you find?
How much did you get out of the oil with the magnet?


I don't See any answer ..

Too much ZDDP is too much. It's never
Better
than the correct amount.
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Reply #19 - 09/07/16 at 12:56:45
 
I found a few metal bits on the magnet, but mostly just a fine graphite look to the oil. I'm trying to post some videos. It's taking awhile. I tried to get more of the oil out by blocking it up on boards and tilting it about. Eventually, it all creeled, the bike tried to fall, and most of the oil got dumped. Sad. At least it's trash oil.
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Reply #20 - 09/07/16 at 14:01:18
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yO4KPgOLYs&feature=youtu.be


See the graphite look? Not a huge amount of steel on the magnet it seems. One big flake you can clearly see. Could have been worse.
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Reply #21 - 09/07/16 at 14:25:22
 
Since the exhaust took a worse beating, I wonder which rocker pad is on the uphill side with the kickstand down. If the exhaust cam lobe sits on the right side, that might partly explain it.... A dry start.
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Reply #22 - 09/07/16 at 14:46:25
 
I just looked at the filter, and there's significantly more metal. There's even at least one shaving that is long and curled like it had been machined off.  Sad

Should I even try? Sad
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Reply #24 - 09/07/16 at 15:03:48
 
So, you decided to see if you could empty the bathtub under the cam
Again.

Some ferrous bits are normal.
Half a teaspoon is too much.
If you have zero ferrous dust, you have zero wear.
DON'T RUN IT ON THE SIDESTAND and it doesn't Matter which is high.

But, it Is exhaust.
I'm not willing to believe it hurt, Unless you idled it on the sidestand and started it dry.
You Did, didn't you?
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Reply #25 - 09/07/16 at 15:52:30
 
Like I said before, I tried to prime it, but it may not have been enough. I should have poured oil down the valve covers... My mistake.

Between worrying with the low battery and charger and Dad bugging me to start it up, not only did I not get a really good prime on it, I messed up and started it on the kickstand not thinking. I remember realizing this a few seconds later and raising it up.  Roll Eyes Too little too late.


Is it destroyed? Am I going to have a catastrophic meltdown?

Found a beat up (but currently ridden) klr250 for 800 bucks. I'd like to get a street-and-trail bike. Suitable for my area. (My local commute includes steep dirt roads, backroads, and 60mph highway, and a little town driving). Dad doesn't like dirt bikes... thinks of them as child's toys or something. :facepalm: Roll Eyes He's more interested in a VLX600, Honda's cheap ol' 4 speed cruiser. You know how newbies are... All they can think of is Harleys and cruisers.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #26 - 09/07/16 at 18:14:43
 
Vids are private apparently.
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Reply #27 - 09/07/16 at 18:33:52
 
Sorry... Are they up yet?
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Reply #28 - 09/07/16 at 21:36:08
 
Dad suggested that I flush the engine with diesel fuel. I don't think that's a very good idea. Roll Eyes Grin
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Reply #29 - 09/07/16 at 23:38:52
 
T h ats how I would flush.
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