Serowbot wrote on 01/14/16 at 21:38:12:


I have not openly discussed my religious views.  What quest do you feel I am on?

Frankly speaking, I see headlines of atrocities committed nearly on a daily basis in the name of religion.  Yet no mention of those from the left, the only group they routinely attack are the Christians........  

Best regards,  

Rowboat said
I generally see more outward judgement than inward enlightenment.

Amen. Helps keep me outta the churches. The whole
I'm okay, you're not
attitude makes me sick.
I'll believe someone is Truly Okay when they can violate Newtonian physics at will. And Nothing makes me run away faster than someone telling me that I can trust them because they are a Christian. I don't remember being shafted any worse than by self proclaimed Christians.

Serowbot wrote on 01/15/16 at 07:37:52:




Best regards,

WebsterMark wrote on 01/15/16 at 20:02:24:


Web....

I recall going to a Pastor's convention with my Pastor.
One of the people to speak was a man named Gayle Erwin, a guy who he knew I really respected.
Anyway, I got to tag with some pretty big names. I was privy to their "small talk" and I came away with a much more mature attitude.

We can blame them, if we want to. It would be like blaming Al Gore and other rich global warming "preachers" that their actions don't mimic their claims, that jet fuel is a big contributor to the environment problems, yet, they fly some of the biggest private polluters, live in homes with giant footprints, etc....

Or,

We acknowledge that pastors are just as big of sinners as we are.

The divorce rate in just as high in the church, as it is out.
That very fact has all sorts of roots one might apply as well.

As A believer I believe according to my relationship, no one else's , as I will be judge accordingly.....

If I want to find a fault, to believe or not, I can always find something blame.
To blame a race based, on an experience I had with a member of that race, would show a flaw in my character, and no one else's, not to mention just a really pizz poor way to navigate through life....

Even Obama is human, we can disagree with him, but to hate him ( and I believe some do ) serves neither, it's the perfect testament to drinking the poison and wanting the other person to die....

PS: The Lord has a special treat for those Sadducee and Pharisees  types, ya know Web  

EDIT: I left out one important point my pastor friend shared with me on our trip back ( in was a three day convention ). I asked him, why do people become pastors?
He replied, money.
I thought he was jerking my leg.
It was NOT even on my radar screen, even tho we hear about the Bakers, Swaggert's, etc, i just filed that under, it's to be expected, just on volume, sorta thing.
But when my fishing buddy told me this straight up, I knew I had been assuming something that was in fact, not true.

In no way does this minimize the message, or is a slam on pastors, etc, BUT, it is a fact that we need to admit.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/16/16 at 12:57:54:


JOG, when I brought hate into my post, it was directed at the political climate, I know people who hate Obama, and I know libs that hate anything with a R after their name.....

I will never tell someone my "belief" and its expression is the only way.
I will however try to explain my beliefs, and expression thereof, and that is where others might "hear what they want to hear" and assign it something so they can affirm themselves  

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/16/16 at 13:36:53:


Can't help but think this what your backho said after it greeted you  

I couldn't hear what it said. The crunching and the falling and then the thrashing around groaning kinda had my attention.

When I said
Gotcha, I meant
I understand.
Left the Y out.

Id be
Flippant
right back, but im missing that finger. And it just never has felt right left handed.