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Cafe Racer Project
09/26/14 at 21:09:33
 
Here are a couple of photos of where I am so far with the cafe build.
I have modified the stock swing arm so the right side now matches the left.
I have cut and tacked welded the sub frame.
Both the swing arm and sub frame mods where from a donor savage frame.
Will post more in depth photos of how this was done soon.
I didn't want to start this thread until I was a way down the track but couldn't help myself. So this will be a long drawn out build.



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Reply #1 - 09/27/14 at 04:07:01
 
Looks like the start of a great project.

Balancing the left to right shocks is a great move.  The stock bike hides the offset well - but it really shows on the Cafe and Bobber bikes.  I mounted my license plate on the left side in order to make it less obvious.

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Reply #2 - 09/27/14 at 04:33:19
 
I have no idea the power required to operate the shocks nor do I know what theyre attached to, BUT, it sure Looks like a nice long lever for the shock to push up on.. You sure thats gonna stay straight?
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Reply #3 - 09/27/14 at 12:49:25
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/27/14 at 04:33:19:
I have no idea the power required to operate the shocks nor do I know what theyre attached to, BUT, it sure Looks like a nice long lever for the shock to push up on.. You sure thats gonna stay straight?

Like the original set up it will have bracing. It should be stronger than the original due to the steel rod being one continuous piece and not two pieces.
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Reply #4 - 09/27/14 at 14:03:04
 
Sounds like a plan. I think visually it would look better if you slid a pipe that just fits over the rod down it. A little brazing and they become one,,bongi,errrr bingo!
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Reply #5 - 09/27/14 at 14:09:35
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/27/14 at 14:03:04:
Sounds like a plan. I think visually it would look better if you slid a pipe that just fits over the rod down it. A little brazing and they become one,,bongi,errrr bingo!

Do you mean slide the pipe over the rod instead if using a brace?
The rod I have used is 20mm thick same as the stock, It looks flimsy because of the lack of bracing.
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Reply #6 - 09/27/14 at 14:20:30
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/27/14 at 14:03:04:
Sounds like a plan. I think visually it would look better if you slid a pipe that just fits over the rod down it. A little brazing and they become one,,bongi,errrr bingo!

Yes with a thicker look using a pipe and a brace would look better. Wink
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Reply #7 - 09/27/14 at 18:56:28
 
That would be a great place to mount some discrete turn signals!
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Yeah, like I have any clue what is going on....
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Reply #8 - 09/27/14 at 19:05:21
 
Jeff71 wrote on 09/27/14 at 18:56:28:
That would be a great place to mount some discrete turn signals!
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Yes Jeff good idea. Smiley
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Reply #9 - 09/27/14 at 19:15:44
 
Do you wish the rear end was higher? What is the plan on the rear fender?
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Reply #10 - 09/27/14 at 19:26:45
 
I modified the swing arm by cutting two swing arms in half and using the left side of both. I flipped one upside down and joined the two together using metal strips welded inside for bracing. I  made a rear axle bolt 50mm longer than stock and a 50mm longer than stock right hand spacer. Lastly I bent some flat steel to cover for more strenght.










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Reply #11 - 09/27/14 at 19:29:44
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/27/14 at 19:15:44:
Do you wish the rear end was higher? What is the plan on the rear fender?

Well I have some options about that. I can put longer shocks on like the Ryca kits but I wanted a level swing arm. When I sit on the bike I can only just put both feet flat on the ground so I think its high enough.
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Reply #12 - 09/27/14 at 19:32:07
 
Im going to run flat steel where the sub frame is so wont need a fender. But I still have the half fender from the bobber project that I could mount if required.
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Reply #13 - 09/27/14 at 20:12:51
 
Well,,IF there's room behind the seat for it,you Could rework where the shocks mount to the swingarm,bringing the shocks toward the center,shortening the top shock mount,but forcing the top mount up a bit,,
The distance between the shocks,IMO,is just not attractive and IF I was putting the time in to build a bike, personally,I'd have to address that if at all possible. I'm not there and can't see everything,just that is what I'm seeing.
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Reply #14 - 09/27/14 at 21:09:40
 
No sir,, and Im not any kinda suspension engineer and Id be concerned about changing that angle that much. I have no idea how much more harsh the ride would be, but I suspect it would be. Im talking about reworking the lower mount so the bottom of the shock isant outside the swingarm but centered above it. Picture a BIG chain link,, 2 of them, like 2 washers welded together, a bolt thru the lower ones, securing them to the swingarm, and above, the shock. Then bend the now straight bar to allow for that height change, keeping the shock angle as is. Kinda a cantilever setup. It otta brace up easily & look okay, AND you wont be asking people

Do these shocks make my butt look fat?

I think youre on track for a nice lookin build. And I agree with the level swingarm look. I hope you can make it do that under load.

I know that a bend would mean cutting the bar, but slipping it into a piece of pipe between the frame members.. with a few holes drilled to allow some brazing, grind it, bondo, bingo,,
You got a torch, right? Bend it, toss it in some oil,, I have been known to tack things with solder, just to get them right where I want them,get a good mock up,  then weld or braze them in. No 90* bends,, I think it would look sharp.
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