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Re: The Chrome Wars
Reply #465 - 07/28/15 at 15:00:36
 
http://liliputing.com/2015/07/3d-xpoint-storage-up-to-1000-times-faster-than-...




Intel and Micron have announced a new type of memory technology called 3D XPoint that they say could offer speeds up to 1,000 times faster than NAND flash storage.

The memory is also non-volatile: it can continue to store data even when the power is turned off.

All told, Intel says 3D Xpoint offers a fast, cheap non-volatile alternative to existing SSDs, which could increase the speed and capacity of solid state storage while eventually bringing down the cost.

Intel and Micron says 3D Xpoint also has another thing going for it: while NAND storage has a limited number of write cycles, 3D Xpoint does not. That means it could offer up to 1,000 times the endurance as well as 1,000 times the speed. At least that’s the theory. We’ll probably have to wait until next year to learn more about real-world performance (and the price).


Smells like the death of all the hard drive builders to me ......

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..... but my sniffer tends to get bamboozled a lot by them brown icky fumes that generally come out with them groundbreaking Intel "early on" press  announcements .....
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Reply #466 - 07/29/15 at 18:19:21
 

Win 10 launched today.

It was bad, very bad for the Redmond boys --- how bad is yet to be rolled up and totally known but there were several tech sites telling folks how to reverse the upgrade ASAP.

People are being reminded of Windows ME, but ME wasn't this bad on intro day, seriously.   ME just never could be fixed and they rushed XP forward as the fix it tool.

Then they had to rush Service Pack 1 forward to fix XP's fix for ME.

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Reply #467 - 07/29/15 at 18:34:21
 

http://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-problems-experience

Here is a well written listing of the major issues seen prior to Win 10 launch day.
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Reply #468 - 07/30/15 at 19:35:15
 

Day 5, Win 10 goes to work for the very first day .....

http://reviews.gizmodo.com/windows-10-day-five-1720608388

Just read it, for the good or the bad, just read it.
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Reply #469 - 07/30/15 at 19:38:28
 

Day 10 for the tester writer people, and Win 10 gets rolled all up neatly after 3 days of being out in the real world

http://reviews.gizmodo.com/windows-10-the-gizmodo-review-1720872266

Boys and girls, there's an entire series of articles involved in this to cover the first 10 days of Windows 10 being used by this particular tech writer person and his crew.   Each paragraph expands into a full article on that subject.

And at the very end of one of the last paragraphs he drops these words of wisdom.

"What you should take away from this is that your mileage may, can, and will vary. And, yeah, that you should probably wait a few weeks or months before you upgrade your personal computers. Everyone seems to agree on that."
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Reply #470 - 08/01/15 at 08:58:45
 

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/210085-microsoft-acer-prep-new-cloudbook...



Acer is going to use similar hardware to a Chromebook, but provide the extra amounts of memory and storage for fairly close to a same-same price.

These will be the exact same specs as a "power user" Acer Chromebook uses, so a completely level playing field for this two player soccer scrimmage is very possible as the Chromebook and the Cloudbook duke it out physically sometimes next month.    

Acer can also provide a low end spec'd otherwise same-same Chromebook for rubbing some potential Chrome salt into the open battle wounds if needed.    Same Same second party software is available for both platforms as well, with Libre Office and MS Office both being available to do comparisons both local loaded and cloud style.

 Wink     ...... since Win 10 is really Win 7 with some new bodywork I suspect that Cloudbook is going to get its butt kicked all over the soccer field by the power up "same as" Chromebook unit and perhaps by the low end original spec'd Chromebook as well.

GRAPHICS COUNT A LOT  in these units, and MS might squeeze in a premium graphics chipset to partially overcome the porky OS.   Still, this trick didn't totally work with last years Chromekillers, so the cloudbooks are on pretty much unknown turf to us in this years ChromeWars competition.


Roll Eyes

But if the $169 Cloudbook performs well at all, I suspect it will sell very well in general next year,  taking most of its sales volume away from the more expensive Win 10 laptop lines.

More pressure then will hit on Apple for creating a lower cost "equivalent" Mac unit as Apple will lose sales and units to both of these sets of players.  
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Re: The Chrome Wars
Reply #471 - 08/02/15 at 07:38:32
 

http://liliputing.com/2015/08/mediatek-helio-x22-x30-chips-with-10-cores-on-t...

New MediaTek Helio X22, X30 chips with 10 cores on the way




Holy Laptop Chipset, Batman !!!!    its a phone chip though

Six Cortex A-72 cores and four A-53 cores (plus one IoT core for "constant on" for download and call wake-up duty)

Helio X30

4 ARM Cortex-A72 cores clocked at 2.5 GHz
2 ARM Cortex-A72 cores clocked at 2 GHz
2 ARM Cortex-A53 cores clocked at 1.5 GHz
2 ARM Cortex-A53 cores clocked at 1 GHz

Once again, Mediatek is letting ARM's cat out of the bag before ARM has had time to announce the new Cortex cores with their new higher throughput speeds.

Shocked   I suspect new lithography levels are involved in this 2.5 ghz announcement as well.   Shocked

This smells like a real powerhouse chipset as right now only two (2) ARM Cortex A72s at 2 ghz and four (4) A53s at 1.5 ghz that makes up the most powerful chipset that is out right now for a straight ARM hard macro design.

Six A-72s is an awful lot of scaleable processing power.    somebody is thinking ahead with phone PC and laptops in mind

Qualcomm may be forced back into rethink mode yet again .......

We never really think about it much, but Apple may need to reconsider what they are doing in 2016/2017 as well since Qualcomm and Mediatek and Samsung are all swinging much bigger clubs at each other's headbones in their own little personal donnybrook war.  

It wouldn't do for Apple to be getting lapped by the ARM boys, now would it?
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Reply #472 - 08/04/15 at 03:34:05
 

http://liliputing.com/2015/08/acer-launches-aspire-one-cloudbook-laptops-for-...

Acer launches Aspire One Cloudbook laptops for $170 and up




"The Acer Aspire One Cloudbook 11 features an 11.6 inch display and a 4,200 mAh battery for up to 7 hours of run time, while the Cloudbook 14 has a 14 inch display and a 4,780 mAh battery for up to 6 hours of battery life.

The rest of the specs are the same for both models, including:

1366 x 768 pixel TN display
Intel Celeron N3050 Braswell processor
2GB of RAM
16GB to 32GB of storage + microSD card reader
802.11ac dual-band WiFi
Bluetooth 4.0
1 USB 3.0 port, 1 USB 2.0 port, HDMI, headset, and power jacks
Dual digital microphones with background noise cancellation for voice calls, Cortana commands
Windows 10 software + a 1-year subscription to Office 365 Personal
Hoping for a model with more than 2GB of RAM or 32GB of storage? Acer currently has no plans to offer those options, and I’ve been told that the RAM is not user upgradeable.

Acer will offer two versions of the Cloudbook 11 and one of the Cloudbook 14:

Cloudbook 11 with 16GB of storage for $170
Cloudbook 11 with 32GB of storage for $170
Cloudbook 14 with 32GB of storage for $200"



Let's scratch the surface a bit and see if we see any  $$$$ support dollars $$$$ going into these items.

First, Intel has to be giving away the processor, because it is a Braswell which is their brand new 14nm "Apple style" chipset.    Intel has tons of these left over from sorting the original Apple shipments, so perhaps they have found a useful home for some sorted but not quite up to Apple spec chipsets.  

Have to see if the Cloudbook keeps the chip cool enough to beat the throttling issues though, as there isn't a fan in evidence here.

Microsoft is likely supporting the item as well, because it sells for $30 less than the current Chromebook killer.   Also note that the 16 gig unit and the 32 gig unit cost exactly the same, so obviously some memory is being eaten by somebody as well.

Look for the reviews, because at $200 that 14" unit is likely quite a deal.

Won't be that price for long though.

The fight for Chromespace is on again !!!!
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Reply #473 - 08/04/15 at 15:02:54
 

THE PHONE/PC ARRIVES FIRST FROM MICROSOFT  
first blood kinda sorta goes to the Redmond boys ...... because the continuum stuff kinda sorta works

http://liliputing.com/2015/08/this-could-be-micrsofts-first-phone-thats-also-...

This could be Micrsoft’s first phone that’s also a PC



"The image show what seems to be a Nokia Lumia 950 smartphone, and as expected, it seems to be one of the first Lumia smartphones to support Continuum for phones. That’s Microsoft’s new software that allows you to connect a keyboard, mouse, and external display and basically turn your phone into a desktop PC.

Run Office on your smartphone and you’ll get a full-screen, touch-friendly user interface. Connect your phone to a docking station so you can use it with a mouse, keyboard, and monitor and you’ll get a user interface that looks more like a traditional desktop app, complete with multi-pane views for apps like Outlook and windows that can be minimized or moved."


It may not be perfect as is, but as a first shot it will serve to fire off a salvo of other PC/phones and docking stations.
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Re: The Chrome Wars
Reply #474 - 08/05/15 at 09:36:48
 
 
http://liliputing.com/2015/08/intel-skylake-is-here-for-powerful-desktop-pcs....

Intel Skylake is here… for powerful desktop PCs



After skipping Broadlake and skipping all of the smaller Skylake chipsets as non-starters, Intel has jumped up to try Skylake in the very most powerful chipsets they make for the PC realm, the glory of the Gamers, the Core i7 superchipsets.

Problem is, they aren't.  

Intel is caught again by the same thermal catch 22 that has stymied all the rest of the 14nm chipsets, if it gets even slightly warm it throttles to perform less than the 22nm chipsets from 3-4 years ago.

Embarrassed

"But if you’re looking for a gaming system? AnandTech reports that if you’re using a discrete graphics card, you’d get slightly better gaming performance by picking up a 4th-gen Intel Haswell desktop chip instead. Meanwhile, Hexus notes integrated graphics performance does for Skylake chips does appear to be a step up from earlier Intel chips."


Duh, dude, nobody uses integrated graphics in a gaming rig.
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Re: The Chrome Wars
Reply #475 - 08/07/15 at 12:15:58
 

Verizon just caved in and did away with contracts.   Now everybody but AT&T is now a non contract cell phone provider.  Prices may still be different but the ideas are all the same now.
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Reply #476 - 08/09/15 at 08:03:29
 

Intel has flopped with 14nm Skylake now and has a fictional thing call Kabylake supposedly being designed for 2017, but what do they do for next year since all the past Skylake plans have turned into brown stinky PR poop?

Why, lets take our biggest most powerful mainframe chipsets and see if we can 14nm size them and get people to buy them as a laptop chipset .....


http://liliputing.com/2015/08/intel-xeon-chips-coming-to-laptops.html




The gist of the trick is this, Xenon chipsets have been around a long time and some of the earlier ones were right sized for desktop and laptop use today if run on a 14nm process.

Will they work better?   Who knows, but they will be different.

Think of it as reusing a trusted name brand and you might be closer to the reality mark since the Skylake name is all tarnished by thermal reality now and Intel cannot actually make the items shown in the Skylake roadmaps.   So you rename what you can make as Xenon and see if it will fly that way.

And who knows, perhaps the Xenon architecture isn't so prone to thermal throttling ......   (especially if you only publish claims for what the warmed up chipsets can actually really do)

Roll Eyes       .... and by repeatedly saying they are "mainframe chipsets" maybe you can get people to actually believe that slower is better, huh ???
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Reply #477 - 08/10/15 at 17:46:37
 

http://liliputing.com/2015/08/google-android-to-support-vulkan-graphics-api.html

Vulkan graphics API does away with drivers, GPU directly runs graphics mode with greater speed and definition.



Watch this 1.2 minute video listed below, it will give you a seat of the pants feel for just about what this software change does to magnify existing modern GPU's efficiency and speed.    

What it does for GPUs actually built for it will be even better.   Because of this compliant GPUs will get much faster and less expensive to produce.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_I8an8jXuM      

Jest watch it, in less than a minute you get the idea.



Smiley      Smiley

And Intel gasps in shock as the first fire hardened stake begins to slowly enter their posterior .....  everybody's existing compliant ARM based Mali graphic processors just got 25% better and all their really modern stuff that was actually designed around open source Vulkan just got >50% better -- completely eating up all the graphics progress Intel made last year ......

Poor Intel, with them having to 14nm downsize and re-use their old mainframe superpower chipsets jest to compete against excessively powerful cool running 10 core ARM cell phone chipsets that are being tossed at them by the armful by them hateful mean & cruel low cost hockey stick boys .......   and with good CHEAP built in graphics in them now to rub some extra salt in the open wounds too.

And MS is actively supporting them now, too.    

Poor Intel, 2016 is going to be a hard year for you.   Because of 14nm thermal throttling issues all you had going for you was 30% better graphics and now that has gone and faded away on you.

Even if you do decide to support Vulkan you will just be one of many to do so.   The new ARM Mali 890 and 900 series GPUs will be harder for you to beat because they will be designed for Vulkan from the very get-go.    And 'ol Gamer Gabe over at Steam, well he LIKES that Vulkan stuff, a lot he does ....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulkan_(API)
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Reply #478 - 08/11/15 at 17:54:44
 



Ok, you can always believe what you want to, and as ol PT Barnum said "A sucker is born every minute".

This is a listing of all the Sky Lake chipsets that may or may not ever come to pass, with the entire SkyLake family running into thermal slowdown issues that cause them to be less powerful and\or less efficient than the previous 22nm generation chipsets once they warm up.

How bad is the thermal throttling?    

Core i7-6600U      2.6 GHz (3.4 GHz Turbo)

This is the most "powerful" of the lot, clocked at 3.4 ghz when cold, but slows to 2.6 ghz when it gets fully warmed up.

You pay a large 14nm "superchip" premium for an advertised 3.4 ghz chip, but you actually get to utilize is a 2.6 ghz chip (which is slower than its 22nm predecessor) once you get it to working hard doing something like a game.
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Reply #479 - 08/13/15 at 07:15:32
 

http://liliputing.com/2015/08/htc-lenovo-to-cut-jobs-due-to-declining-revenue...

HTC, Lenovo to cut jobs due to declining revenue

America is not the world, sometimes we find ourselves just better off than the rest of everybody.   Europe has sucked economically for a while, China has had a major economic "adjustment" now and the rest of the Orient is in the blahs now too.

The flow of new computing toys to the USA has drastically decreased of late as Oriental manufacturers seem to be downsizing their companies and concentrating on the lower end of their product lines (because that is where their sales are).

Take Xaiomi for example.   This fall's new blockbuster isn't a premium phone at all -- it is the oriental equivalent of the Moto G ie. a very value filled lower priced phone.    Why, because that is the only thing that is selling right now.

http://liliputing.com/2015/08/xiaomi-redmi-note-2-is-a-125-smartphone-with-fu...



"The Redmi Note 2 might not have as much memory or storage as some high-end phones. But its spec sheet makes the $180 Moto G look overpriced. Here’s what you get for $160:

5.5 inch, 1920 x 1080 pixel display
MediaTek Helio X10 8-core, ARM Cortex-A53 64-bit processor up to 2.2 GHz
2GB of RAM
16GB to 32GB of storage
MicroSD card slot
13MP rear camera with phase detection auto focus and a 5MP front camera
3,060 mAh removable battery
Quick Charging
802.11ac WiFi
4G LTE with dual SIM support
Infrared port for remote control functions"


What to take away from this ???    When folks start selling Octacore chipset "worldphones" for $160 it behooves the Qualcomms and Apples of the world to pay close attention since their current $600 offerings are NOT 2-3 times better (nor even close to it).
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