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Re: The Chrome Wars
Reply #30 - 09/06/14 at 05:00:26
 

Intel is on the verge of starting to getting it right next year.   No sources, just me.   They will still do loss leader next year and into the next, but the amount lost per processor will be less and less.

I have had quite a bit of enjoyment bashing Intel because they started out soooooo far behind and were just so full of themselves they couldn't see it.    It made for some good Three Stooges comedy.

Microsoft too, although Microsoft seems to be understanding where they are now but are seemingly wanting mobile to want to "catch up" to their huge memory and processor requirements instead of downsizing their OS requirements to get in line with reality.   This is a key deadly mistake for Microsoft that they are making right now as we speak.    

Chrome is becoming popular now, and folks are getting past having to have MS Word just to function at work.

Back to Intel -- the fight is coming to Intel now as all the various ARM vendors are beginning encroaching on laptop land.    Intel is seeing their middle chips, the Core i3's,  being directly attacked right now in the Chrome Wars.    By standard ARM upper end cell phone chipsets --- not even special built ARM chipsets  ---  yet.

This directly threatens the installed base for both Intel and Microsoft.   They cannot ignore it and they cannot play "fumble around try try trying again" as they have been doing for the last 3 years.    

Each fumble and try try again at this stage will lose them a piece of home ground that they can never likely get back again.

The Chrome Wars will quickly tell us which way this trend will go.

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Reply #31 - 09/07/14 at 05:53:39
 

Chromebook and Chromebox removing MS laptop/desktop marketshare

So, we see that MS is worried about Chromebooks and Chromeboxes since they are strongly accepted by education, are generally accepted by the consumer and now are starting their roll into the business sector with Dell/VMware/Citrix as their empowering sell through partners.

What does this mean for MS?     MS was already suffering from flat 0% growth in laptops and a 6% year on year decline in desktops, so how much more will Chromebooks/boxes hurt them?

The figures so far this year indicate potentially over a 30% decline in new unit notebook sales and up to a 10% potential decline in non-obsolete installed base, speaking in very general terms (including consumer and business together).

But, you say, but ..... consumer doesn't matter to MS this year since they don't derive any income stream from consumer as they are mostly giving their OS away of late trying to stop the tablet and Chrome bleeding.

Hey, exactly what does that last statement really say about MS's future if they don't change the bulk/slowness of their base OS?    And how the heck can they stick with a pay-me business plan in a world where all other OS products (including Apple's) are given away for free ????

Let's just agree that education is a done deal at this point and all the kiddies are getting educated using Chromebooks and they will all grow up understanding and accepting Chome devices as "real devices" (right up through college anyway).

Yes, so let's focus on Business since that is what hurts MS the most as far as their revenue goes.  



This is Gartner's generic predicted growth in Chromebooks, split by business and consumer.   It is conservative as it is based off the 2013 numbers which have already been exceeded by 2014's first half reality, so the expansion curve will likely be steeper than shown in the graph.

So you could take this chart and make a predicted MS decline chart out of it by flipping it over and showing MS market share shrinkage at the same levels.   One Chrome device sold = one Windows device that didn't sell.

Why would this trick very likely be a valid future prediction?   Because MS has their thumb up their butt for 3 years now and will not/cannot bring themselves to cut down on the gross flatulence in their Windows OS's construction.   We are talking about them building ever more complex OS programs that makes sure Windows requires TWICE AS MUCH systems memory for even a basic minimal install on a low end device.    And the corpulent Windows OS always takes twice as long to execute any given task, comparatively, given the same resources.

Bloatware

A Chrome unit that is configured off the EXACT SAME SPECS as the most minimal Windows machine screams along with copious useful speed, while the Windows unit chugs along doing the same old long boot delays and slow page building delays we have all seen for years and years now.    Pure MS bloatware .....

The Chrome device still wins if you give the Windows unit the double up memory and the stronger processor it "requires" -- Chrome OS is simply that much quicker to execute compared to MS.

How can I say this?   Win RT and its apps, running on standard ARM mobile grade processors,  routinely outpaces Win 8.1 on all app execution stages by 20-50% because the ARM based Win version is simply that much quicker to execute.    

And surprise, Chrome OS and Chrome apps are even quicker than Win RT and RT apps .....

Dell will release figures at years end on their Chromebook and Chromebox sales  --  simply assume Chrome took out one Windows business revenue unit per each Dell Chromeunit sold and you have your rough Microsoft "business income hit" answer.

It will be brutally huge as it rolls out over the years .....   unless MS can actually do something smart with Windows 9 to make it a lot faster and lighter.

And yet so far we see no signs of anything drastically better are coming out of Threshold as far as better memory use or any functional increase in app execution quickness .....    

"Same old same old" functionally will kill MS within 2 years at the rate at which they are going -- even if they completely fix the ugly Win 8.1 interface issues.    

MS has competition now on all sides that clearly outperform the basic Windows OS on pure function, speed and core hardware requirements.

Roll Eyes    Apple, ChromeOS, Android, Tizen and the Linux Distros

PREDICTION TIME AGAIN:        When Win 9 comes out a porky loser yet again, expect to see MS's market share to continue to decline along with their stock prices.
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Re: The Chrome Wars
Reply #32 - 09/07/14 at 08:42:10
 

Ruh Rho, Microsoft ......


Sams Club has them a new webpage a building for a 14" AMD processor equipped fan-free silent thin HP Streambook ---- and the Sams Club wholesale price is $299 .....


Whut happened to your AMD powered HP 14" $199 Chromebook Killer Streambook????    

Your MS/HP BS has apparently tricked two of your other faithful partners into putting out two (2) 11" $199 loss leader Win 8.1 BingOS laptops to go out there and flounder around a bit in out there in Chromeland  ....  

(until your support payment $$$ run out, then the two of them will be abruptly price raised up a bit or else completely dropped out of their product line up, depending on what each vendor wants to go do with it)

But hey, really,  has your good buddy HP apparently decided not to even start to go play a lose lose lose lose low end laptop game with you down there in Chromeland ???    

Or did you forget to pay HP the $100 per unit to get them to go down to the $199 price point?  

Or could you only afford to pay them $50 per unit in the first place ???  

Wassup, doc ???

What'cha gonna do now, MS ??


               Roll Eyes



Win 8.1 BingOS  .......   ugly malformed  b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-bloatware  ......






Auuugh !!!  I even tried shaving off all my fur, but I'm way too "upgraded" to ever get back down into my $199 price point hole no matter how hard I try !!!
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Re: The Chrome Wars
Reply #33 - 09/07/14 at 11:43:00
 

Yes, I know, BingOS is not a full sized mainstream real Microsoft OS product --- I was not being fair to them Microsoft lovers everywhere.


OK, only the Windows 8.1 mainstream full retail releases then, Pro Server Edition, the full 64 bit fully tweeked for many-many-core processors version.        Now that is a significant heavy weight OS, to be sure .....   needs a significant Intel processor full rack set and a huge power supply and a ton of memory to handle it properly.
























......   Hey, jest stick yer pocket knife straight in to full depth with the holes separated about six inches apart and create you a weakened zipper type seam right along that there belly line, then kick on her a few times with yer boot until she starts to let go jest a wee little bit  ......

Now let's give it a single hard cold boot speed test .....   wow --- that's really fast  !!!   Opened up completely and displayed itself completely within one (1) second !!! 

Grin   I don't think the 15-20 guys show in the first picture standing off to the right with the cameras and the mics in them black and orange slickers even managed to get a shot of it as it happened so durn fast.    

Jest a taste or a bit of a feel for it, maybe, but nary a single recorded image from all them cameras ....   BTW, we do think some of that "special" Intel brownish future vapor stuff may have indeed been involved with this particular performance test.

(you have to scroll over at the bottom of this whole post to see them camera guys)











Window 8.1 Pro 64 bit (weighing in at 60 tons) can open up and display itself inside of one second as per this Microsoft/Intel verified single cold boot speed test.



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                         .......  but not using my boot, nosireee Bob,   .... not ever.
                                           I like my boots and my feet jest the way they are      .......       <gag>   <barf>


If you look real sharp at the pic you can see the kicker guy's hand flung up and the top part of his head as he gets violently bowled over by the speedy MS OS's booted output .....

Yup, he got MS Win 8.1 Multiprocessor Pro OS right on up his nose, in his ears and some way down deep into his open hollering mouth he did ....


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Re: The Chrome Wars
Reply #34 - 09/07/14 at 12:52:38
 

Now, if you have the courage to click on the link below,  here is a real time boot off between 2 versions of mac machines, a Windows 8.1 machine and a Chromebook .....   and no, it isn't pretty for the Windows and the Mac machines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqx-I_rVLBs



Now, on a nine year old Core 2 duo (a Dell lease return machine) running Linux Mint when I cut mine off at the monitor, it can resume in a measured two (2) seconds from a cold screen.  

And it resumes automatically to the last screen displayed when it was turned off too -- no fumbling and clicking or touching to get where you need to be like on a Windows 8.1 machine.

But they say Linux is way way too geeky for normal mortals to use .... why that is I do not know as my Linux Mint is stone easy to set up and use compared to Microsoft 8.1 and it is VERY QUICK too.  

And secure.  

And completely free, let's not forget that.



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Why Windows feels it doesn't need to change.  

We define computing, we are the standard by which all others are compared.    No other system can do it ALL, only we can.    No one else has the real computing experience and we have that all knowledge sewn up tight with this big huge nasty patent club we can use to defend it all.    We can do absolutely nothing and continue to rake in the money from all those locked-in business chumps out there.



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Reality is that, as always  ...... change, she comes.


If you don't keep up with the change waves, you get left behind.  
This is starting to become very obvious when you have to lay off functionally 45% of your people and functionally cease supporting your older softwares with 5 or more years left in their original support plans.

Your average computer reviewer person now-a-days is knowledgeable and current on 3-4 operating systems now.   Quite a few of these guys freely admit to preferring other brands of OS over yours, brands that they personally chose to use out of simple preference.   Macs and Chrome are preferred over your OS by quite a few now  ......  and their now vocal criticism of your unchanging rather bloated OS is mounting weekly.

Hey Win 9 -- got any real improvements in that 60 ton pile of stuff other than a re-tweeked start page?

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Re: The Chrome Wars
Reply #35 - 09/08/14 at 08:54:26
 

http://liliputing.com/2014/09/hp-announces-the-14-inch-300-hp-stream-laptop.html

HP announces the 14 inch, $300 HP Stream laptop




Yup, it was all a big April Fools Joke from HP and Microsoft, that they ever could really do a $199 notebook to compete against ChromeBooks -- reality doesn't bend that far.

The fact that Toshiba and Asus actually went and supposedly did it indicates just how far the herd mentality can go among computer producers.    Now if those two guys actually expected to be paid the $50-$100 per unit in offset dollars from Microsoft, well, that will indeed be an item of some interest to their respective lawyers.   (ie show me the contract)

You see, HP points out that they NEVER ever said anything, but it was the head dude from Microsoft that was waving around an unlabeled HP 14" PC at HIS event making all sorts of unfounded statements about what "somebody" was going to do -- HP NEVER SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO ANYTHING.

Which, as we all know from the re-posting and reading of the yanked HP internal web pages that this current HP story is a bunch of total bullshite.

Yep, we watched the battery grow bigger and bigger, we watched the heat sink expand and grow and turn into copper.   We watched the BOM cost slowly keep creeping on up as the testing went on until HP finally had to come clean THAT THEY SIMPLY COULDN'T DO IT at a price that Microsoft could afford to pay the rest of getting it down to the $199 price point.

Yep, HP couldn't even get close enough to a functional Windows unit at the $199  price swinging that 14" screen so they pulled the web page and upped the price to something that could really be done.

ARE YOU DISAPPOINTED THAT MICROSOFT AND HP WOULD ACTUALLY LIE TO YOU?    

Aren't you used to it yet?

HEY,  DID YOU REALLY EXPECT WINDOWS 9 WAS GOING TO BE ANY FORM OF REAL OR SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT OVER WINDOWS 8.0, OR 8.1?


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Reply #36 - 09/08/14 at 09:57:37
 

http://liliputing.com/2014/09/microsoft-overhauls-msn-will-rename-bing-mobile...

Microsoft overhauls MSN, will rename Bing mobile apps MSN apps


BingOS, the love child of Ballmer and some unnamed male MS counterpart has begun to stink in the eyes of current MS management.  



It cannot be used to make up a cut down OS that has any real systems memory reductions or hard drive storage advantages to it and it has gotten a very bad reputation associated with it due to several recent failed initiatives.

The word Bing will henceforth only be associated with the search engine, and some other "new and improved" naming for that same search engine is to be forthcoming around the same time as the Windows 9 pre-release.    

It will become "new and improved" at that time.    The Windows 9 pre-release is VERY VERY IMPORTANT to us at Microsoft because it will allow us to claim that the users themselves didn't want us to change this or that, so we can say we are "listening to our users" as we once again do basically NOTHING to significantly improve the Windows 8/8.1/9 OS beyond a few start up tweeks.

We will now start to rename every major feature of our system every six months or so in hopes of confusing the reviewers.    Each time a little minor appearance tweek or two will allow us to claim "new and improved" or "revolutionary" or "ground breaking".  

This is a trick Intel has used for years and years now (along with some far future magic Intel brownish smelly vapor) and the trick seems to work out pretty well for them.  

Intel's real actual stuff never really changes once they come out with it either.

.....  so, not even their own stock holders will likely understand anything but "New stuff is coming --- Hooray !!!    Buy more stock !!!"
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Re: The Chrome Wars
Reply #37 - 09/09/14 at 15:24:48
 

Today Apple has come out with their A8 chip, 5 inch cell phone, and their iOS 8 operating system.   It was a big big Apple day today.

Google is about ready to fire back,  as is Samsung.   But suddenly Intel jumps up on the stage and grabs the microphone.

In a classic Intel meaningless vapor blast - Intel suddenly announces the chip that comes after the chip that comes after the one that isn't quite ready yet.

And the media press corps jumps to cover it like it is real news.

Skylake         And now the idiots in the general press are running around guessing at what lithogaphy it will be built with .....

Etched with phaser beams,  you gullible idiots.  

Trimmed with light sabers.


(Intel doesn't know, they just made it up this morning)


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There is an Intel vapor answer given out now ==== 14nm,  wireless 14nm that is.      Huh    don't ask





Now for the rest of the story ........  

Apple was planning yesterday to tell the whole world about moving to A9 with all their Mac products starting in 2015 and completing the move away from Intel processors in that time frame.  

In a total panic, Intel has committed to making an inexpensive Apple Green energy efficient ecologically approved chipset GUARANTEED by 2015, or their name isn't Pinocchio.    

And it will be called Skylake.

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Reply #38 - 09/09/14 at 18:40:59
 
 
http://liliputing.com/2014/09/intel-introduces-reference-design-android-table...

Intel is also thinking about getting into the operating system business to a small degree.   Specifically,  Intel is talking about creating a fork of tablet Android tweeked specifically for their own processors.   They will also supply listings of approved bits and pieces that work well with their processor and their Android fork.  This is to make things "easier" for their pet vendors.

Intel is also working on a custom tweeked Android/Tizen for the future Sophia phones.    Same reasons.

Fun,  huh?

I wonder what Google thinks about this .....    

In the Chrome world Google can accommodate some stuff like this since all the drivers are customized to the device during the device set up and remain part of its support tree.   The hardware in the device must stay stable and must totally adhere to the approved board design or Google support stops for the changed boards until a new board design and product name is approved.  

But Android is a much larger universe where everyone adheres to the Android (ARM based, Linaro controlled) standards with no customization but what the vendors provide for at the device level.

Intel's far eastern build partners are saying they aren't willing to chase all of Intel's constantly changing stuff ..... you go do it, Intel.   This constantly changing processor stuff is for the birds.



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Real root issue is that the marketplace end users are pushing back at Intel because their processors simply don't work at all with 5-8% of the android apps out there.  And this issue is much larger with the far eastern language apps.  

And Intel doesn't work fast or really well with 25-30% of what is out there (all languages) because Intel devices have to use a compatibility layer (software) to get their stuff to work instead of being really compatible.  This compatibility layer software imposes a slow down effect and doesn't work perfectly in all cases.

Intel doesn't work well because their Intel cored processors are not really ARM compatible and never have been.


Intel's solution -- everybody else change everything else to get in line with us.    

Intel is paying these vendors money to build these products and eating a third to three quarters of the cost of the processor on top of the "technology assistance" Intel is currently paying, so right now if the tablet makers want the bribe money they have do what Intel wants.

This still doesn't make the tablets work very well ----   and oriental customers are learning not to buy them.

Soon though (next year or the year after)  Intel's technology assistance and processor price supports are planned to stop -- then what motivates the far eastern tablet maker to keep on using Intel's not working very well processors after the big bribes stop?

Intel's solution -- everybody else change everything else to get in line with us.

Intel has NEVER had to adhere to somebody else's standards, so why should they start now?   Intel sez, "What we need here is a custom Android for Intel ...."

So, reality is Intel is still trying to run in their own "kinda" x86 processor world.

So, reality is that Microsoft REALLY IS still trying to run a x86 software world.

Neither has really changed yet, neither thinks they should have to.

Both are sitting around 10-14% market share and are expecting everybody else to cater to them.    

Both are due for another hard hard set of lessons I am afraid.
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Re: The Chrome Wars
Reply #39 - 09/10/14 at 06:40:29
 

http://liliputing.com/2014/09/qualcomm-unveils-snapdragon-210-chip-entry-leve...

Qualcomm takes aim into the future and fires their .22 caliber single shot rifle in the present just once,  killing Intel's future vapor Sophia chipset in its tracks with a head shot.



"The Qualcomm Snapdragon 210 is an ARM Cortex-A7 processor with Adreno 304 graphics and support for 3G and 4G LTE networks.

Other features include Bluetooth 4.1, 802.11n WiFI, and support for 108p HD video playback with hardware acceleration for H.264 and H.265 videos. It also supports Qualcomm’s Quick Charge 2.0 technology to let you charge a tablet or phone’s battery up to 75 percent fater.

The Snapdragon 210 is the kind of entry-level chip that’s probably faster and more energy efficient than a top-of-the-line model from a few years ago."


Undecided

Poor Intel.  Intel just hates Qualcomm for doing things like that, just a quick off the cuff with minimal effort Qualcomm can drop a commandingly good low cost chipset right into Intel's planned market slot and completely de-rail Intel's grandiose vapor plans for Sophia in 2015-2016.    

By the time Intel can actually really physically make anything, the market will be full up with Qualcomm's far better, less expensive, fully integrated "everything right there on the chip" SOC product.

And by putting it all on the chip, Qualcomm guarantees Intel WILL have to pay support dollars for all the other stuff they will require on their motherboard AND Intel will now have to bribe the phone vendors to even use their incomplete not really Android compatible Intel stuff.

But hey, even if they do bribe the phone guys to put a phone out there Intel still can't make the savvy oriental phone buyers actually buy their incompletely compatible large and cumbersome phones.    

They could however give them away for free, or very nearly so.   By the millions, no less.

Intel stockholders might not care for that particular idea though .....      Angry     nor would the Chinese government

By the time Intel gets there, Mediatek and Allwinner will each have a new generation of low end chipsets fighting over that same slot with Qualcomm.    
All will be full SOC ARM products, all will be much better than Sophia is planned to be now.

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Re: The Chrome Wars
Reply #40 - 09/10/14 at 08:25:32
 

http://liliputing.com/2014/09/intels-low-power-edison-pc-module-now-shipping-...

Wow, the Evil Empire Strikes Back ....   twice no less



Meet the Edison boards.   $50 buys you an Intel "development board" for the internet of things class product development.  Or you can pay a lot more for the bigger board that doesn't actually do a lot more than the little board (but you can plug in Arduino modules that you may already own if you are a hobby board type person).

"Neither Edison board supports video output though, so if you’re looking for a low-power mini PC with an HDMI port, you might want to look elsewhere. Edison is a development platform for embedded devices, not a consumer product that you can turn into a home media PC."

For those uses, you can buy one of these a whole lot cheaper, it works a lot better and has a bootable SD card slot, USB, HDMI and VGA outputs and memory and audio and lots & lots of good working free software already on the SD card .......      

Smiley    or you can have Intel and pay a lot more and get nothing, no video system, no sound, etc. etc.

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Re: The Chrome Wars
Reply #41 - 09/10/14 at 10:25:18
 

There are discussions going on about the ASUS Eee 205 Bingbook (you gotta call them something boys and according to HP Streambook ain't a gonna be it) about not having enough memory to do anything, and what you can do goes very very slowly.

Here is one guy's fairly good statement about what Microsoft has done to itself in going after Chromebooks.


"Theoretically being able to do more and actually being able to do more are two different things. 1GB of RAM on an Android tablet is pretty useful, even for some photo-editing apps and video conferencing. The same is not true for Windows; I have an Acer tablet with Win8.1 and 2GB of RAM, and it's often far more sluggish than my Android tablets with lower-spec hardware.

Windows really needs to escape its Win32 and COM-based roots and become a lightweight OS. As a professional developer, it pains me that Windows still uses a large, monolithic kernel designed for full desktops. Linux, Mac, and by extension, ChromeOS, Android, and iOS devices abandoned the monolithic idea many years ago and now use a modular architecture. This allows them to only load exactly what they need to work.

I thought WinRT was a step in the right direction, but it seems the RT team at Microsoft has been mostly disbanded. I think WinRT is now officially dead, so our only hope is for the core Win OS guys to start working on making the underlying Windows architecture more friendly to small low-powered devices.

Ironically, AMD is pushing ARM for servers because of their relatively low power consumption. Linux supports ARM quite well, and had Microsoft continued to pursue Windows on ARM they could have release Windows Server RT to compete. Oh well."



Good concise recommendation there -- pay attention MS.   If you are only going to support one type of Windows, it has to get slimmer to the point it can actually run well on a tablet or on a low resource notebook.

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Re: The Chrome Wars
Reply #42 - 09/10/14 at 11:08:31
 

http://liliputing.com/2014/09/report-microsoft-drop-nokia-windows-phone-brand...



Wow, the "re-branding of Microsoft" goes apace, don't it .......  ???

Along with killing Bing+anything else, Microsoft is now killing off the "Nokia" and "Windows Phone" brand names.

This is a good thing, IF MS has something real and improved to replace them with.

Otherwise it is just re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic as it oh so slowly goes down .....

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Reply #43 - 09/11/14 at 07:43:44
 

http://liliputing.com/2014/09/windows-9-previewed-series-leaked-photos.html



Having told us about everything that is being dumped now (to try to get the company downsized to fit the remaining people)
MS is starting to show some screen shots of the still porky and corpulent Win9.

Nothing is being said about it working faster or requiring any fewer resources or reducing the required hardware/memory.

So, it isn't "new and improved" yet,  just reskinned a little bit.    

Same old slow performance, same old blocky ugly so far .....  and I just love the "cracked window pane" background they are using --- broken old windows is about right for this new release Win9.

The trash can is back though.    weeee !

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Reply #44 - 09/11/14 at 08:48:11
 
http://liliputing.com/2014/09/intel-prepares-for-even-smaller-and-cheaper-min...

Intel prepares for even smaller (and cheaper) mini PCs




So, while MS shows teaser screen shots of a still porky fat and corpulent Win9 Intel is busy having a developers conference showing hardware makers where they need to be aiming if they want to stay in business in two years.



Intel is calling them "mini-pcs" and they look about like chromebooks do now form factor wise.   Passive heat sinks for cooling, HDMI and USB 3.2 (reversible) all the way.   Biggest connectors on them is a VGA and a LAN jack.  

 New wireless connectivity to everything will start to make the wired connections kinda passe though .....

Intel is telling all their hardware users to pay attention to the Chrome Wars as that is what computing is going to be going forward.

Intel also freely acknowledges all the various OS camps out there -- Intel is quietly telling their hardware builders to PAY ATTENTION TO SUPPORTING MULTIPLE OS's as that will be the way it is going out into the future.

If Windows can't manage to get slim and quick, then MS is showing that you will have to be able and willing to abandon Windows.
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