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shorty Serious Thumper Offline be careful out there gentlemen Posts: 547 southern NM Gender:	Re: If you outlaw guns, only outlaws... Reply #15 - 05/23/14 at 21:12:19 I make certain my concealed pistol is concealed.. this is the law, I obey the law.. bad guys are obvious, I am not
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strang Senior Member Offline Posts: 387 london Gender:	Re: If you outlaw guns, only outlaws... Reply #16 - 05/24/14 at 09:27:28 Yep America's gun laws make it the safest place in the world - I'm sure that's exactly what some more grieving parents in Santa Barbara are saying to themselves tonight.
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12854 Gender:	Re: If you outlaw guns, only outlaws... Reply #17 - 05/24/14 at 09:35:25 It was American GI's who grew up on farms with guns that saved your a$$ from the Nazis so show a little more respect.... The guy in CA was a nut. You think he was going to say "I'd love to go shoot people at random, but I don't want to get caught breaking a gun law so I guess I won't kill anyone tonight....."
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old_rider Serious Thumper Offline Backyard Bill Productions Posts: 3147 flordia panhandle Gender:	Re: If you outlaw guns, only outlaws... Reply #18 - 05/24/14 at 10:11:59 ^-- His country don't allow citizens to carry guns, out of respect for his country I will not send anyone with guns to his country to protect it any longer. There.... here's your sign....
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Reply #19 - 05/24/14 at 10:21:38

The Nazis ... yawn... even Putin uses them to try and justify.
Seems WWII is everyone's "I can't justify this" get out clause.
Every time someone wants a hack soundbite use the Nazis.

Back to today gentleman - easy access to guns is nutters having easy access to guns.
Nutters can easily be average Joe after a divorce, job loss, bereavement, head injury, etc etc.

Seems ok to comment on things happening in other parts of the world but then it immediately gets quite heated when people comment on America, we have to resort to dumbass nationalism. A lack of confidence in your own argument?

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Reply #20 - 05/24/14 at 15:50:45

A lack of confidence in your own argument?

No, lack of patience with you.

The Nazi reference fits, I'd try to minimize it if I were you too.

The guy was a nut. What gun law was going to stop him? Name it. It's a terrible tragedy.

Interesting that this kid may have had Asburgers(?) which the Newtown kid did too. After that, I heard it was a fluke, that condition was not suppose to generate violence.

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Reply #21 - 05/24/14 at 17:54:05

...and, another one... Huh

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REPORT: Son of 'Hunger Games' Assistant Director Goes on Shooting Spree
http://www.etonline.com/news/146795_report_son_of_hunger_games_assistant_dire...

Since Columbine,.. we've entered a new era...
There once was a time, when such things were inconceivable... but now, it has entered the conciousness...
Much like terrorism, texting, and urban graffiti...
The genie's out of the bottle...

As long as this is a gun culture country... these shootings will continue to grow...
You guys are right... you can't makes laws to prevent it...
The only way to prevent it, is to not have the guns available...

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shorty Serious Thumper Offline be careful out there gentlemen Posts: 547 southern NM Gender:	Re: If you outlaw guns, only outlaws... Reply #22 - 05/24/14 at 18:01:03 same guy Bot
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28385 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: If you outlaw guns, only outlaws... Reply #23 - 05/24/14 at 18:10:10 shorty wrote on 05/24/14 at 18:01:03: same guy Bot ... How'd I miss that?... ... PS... If I had a mental disease, and somebody named it "Assburgers", I'd be pretty pissed... It's like some kind of cruel joke... I mean,.. calling it that can't help... ...
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: If you outlaw guns, only outlaws... Reply #24 - 05/24/14 at 20:30:54 Ive worked for quite a few guys who had at least 2 Assburgers a day,,man, I hated that,,
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shorty Serious Thumper Offline be careful out there gentlemen Posts: 547 southern NM Gender:	Re: If you outlaw guns, only outlaws... Reply #25 - 05/25/14 at 06:55:29 not available? like prohibition? that worked well oh and let's ban cigarettes too, more folks killed by smoking than nut-jobs (oh I'm sorry, it's the inanimate object killing people) the guns haven't been and never will be the problem, it's a human problem. history shows banning a thing does not make it go away
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Reply #26 - 05/25/14 at 09:01:05

Not sure how liberals connect the dots on stories like these, other than embracing the ideology of Rahm Emanuel: You never want a serious crisis to go to waste ...

Even God gave the law "Thou shall not kill" and plenty of folk, both religious and secular seem to ignore it, so please tell me how our lord Obama can enforce it?

As I stated earlier, booze kills way more innocent people.....would you guess more than this sicko killed today? I can tell you we had three up here I know of personally (reading a local story) can you imagine nation-wide how large that number might be?
Libs, where is the outrage at booze?
I asked you straight up Bot if the "number" was a factor in determining your concern, and you never answered me, why?

I would guess this kid was raised in a liberal Hollywood type home, yet he still has such rage in his system....
I can vouch my liberals friends seem intolerant of others who live, and believe, differently than them, than my conservative ones.....

Just like carbon offsets, their "fix" won't address the problem, but only to self serve them in thinking they are morally superior in their caring.....

Of note, to show a bias, our news outlet is still reporting a headline that all the deaths were resulting from a "drive by shooting" ..... disingenuous or just another Dan Rather's outright reporting lie Huh

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Reply #27 - 05/25/14 at 12:06:43

Deary me cigarettes and alcohol....
Both are self inflicted deaths. Quite a big difference if you are trying to use them as an analogy. Roll Eyes

So still no intelligent argument.
And then as usual when the argument can't be won with any reasoning it goes straight to ranting about "liberals", whoever they are. Those pesky liberals are like Nazis probably.
The link between gun sales/ownership of a country and the number of mass shootings is irrefutable. Terrorism, texting, and urban graffiti are common to many countries. Mass shootings in countries with strict gun laws are rare indeed. It is that simple.

Now I understand people may not want to give up your guns. That doesn't change the fact of a link between gun ownership and mass shootings. If you want a society where everyone has the right to own a gun, you will inevitably get regular mass shootings. The numbers don't lie. They aren't talking about European mass shootings on the German Savage forum right now.

I saw in the paper that the "nutter" was a Brittish student - If he had lived here thankfully he would not have easy access to a gun and therefor when he went over the edge he would probably have got drunk and stabbed someone. A horrific crime, but I think we can all agree - a lesser impact on the community than multiple death and gunshot wounds.

It is not a fault of "culture" or "the times" - I live in a very similar culture and we don't have mass shooting because we don't have household gun ownership. I was born in Australia - ditto. There is the odd mass shooting from someone obtaining a gun illegally but these are the frequency of earthquakes - precisely because it is harder to get hold of a gun.

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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: If you outlaw guns, only outlaws... Reply #28 - 05/25/14 at 12:45:39 Oh..... I had no idea the gun did this on its own accord. Odd, I thought someone had to load it, aim it, etc..... Just as booze has to get into a persons system to cause havoc while driving, greatly increasing the chances that an innocent person may be killed.... But then again, I is dumb
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Reply #29 - 05/25/14 at 13:37:43

ban everything, we will all be safe Cheesy

and yes booze is a great analogy, drunk drivers kill thousands every year (far more deadly than guns)..

The nut in CA killed the first 2 with a KNIFE people, ban them too?
Also the nut comes from a very liberal and wealthy home. The dad says the family hates guns, yet his son was obviously so unhappy and no family member noticed?

I feel for the victims naturally, but stop with the evil gun talk, this is a human problem. Nuts will kill, let's ban nuts

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