Bundy

How do you like your blue-eyed boy now?

Quote:

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro ... because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.” End quote.

So this Welfare Rancher complains about any African American receiving govt. assistance???? The irony...
Item:

A spokesman for Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.), who had previously hailed Bundy and his supporters as "patriots," rebuked the rancher's racist remarks, saying the senator “completely disagrees with Mr. Bundy’s appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way.”

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who said he supported Bundy in an interview with Fox News' Greta Van Susteren earlier this week, denounced Bundy's racist remarks Thursday, Business Insider reports.

"His remarks on race are offensive and I wholeheartedly disagree with him," Paul said, according to a spokesman.

This is the essence of many of your belief systems here on SS.com. - never forget many of their ancestors' wealth was acquired from slavery.
Bundy's statement is mainly the same thing Republicans say everyday. That is why I am not moved by people like Rand Paul coming out and saying they disagree with Bundy.

How many times have we heard similar statements from elected Republican leaders? A few weeks ago Paul Ryan claimed that the real problem for African-Americans was that a whole generation of black men had grown up not knowing the value of work. The idea that black people were better off as slaves has been a theme running through the Republican Party for years. In addition, a Republican at either the Tea Party Convention or the Republican National Convention claimed that white people had nothing to apologize for with regards to slavery because slavery had provided a roof over the heads of black slaves. Finally, Republicans like Ronald Reagan have been using the idea of lazy black people on the government dole to attempt to win and win elections for decades.

I wonder... What would have been the response of Hannity and all the other republican gasbags if the story broke as "liberal democrat caught illegally grazing cattle on federal lands."

North Country Girl wrote on 04/24/14 at 17:22:42:


I am very certain you would not be willing to anything different from me. But you owe it to yourself to consider digging beyond 5th grade social studies to find the truth about that time period.  The south, the war was never about "destroy the United States of America". That is utter non-sense, and you do you self a dis-service by saying such things.

The war was over STATES RIGHTS. The states lost. Notice I did not say the south lost, that is self-evident, the STATES lost, all states, and the power they once had has become the property of the Federal government.  To me it really is rather an interesting topic: for instance The question:
Is the Constitution meant to limit the Federal Government? meaning that all powers not assigned by it are kept for the states?  
OR
Is the Constitution a foundation, on which new powers not otherwise assigned to the states is defaulted to the Federal government.

That ONE question... still unanswered by law.. was the basis for the South to see their position as legal.  

As to rabble: Robert E. Lee, as well as generals on both sides were anything but rabble. These were BY ALL ACCOUNTS the best of the best From the US Military Academy at West Point. It is a great loss, that so much talent (again on both sides) was wasted on such a war.

Now... if you really want to read something interesting.. and I leave it to you do find such. Read what the Supreme Court wrote AFTER the Civil War as the correct LEGAL position of the Union, and for the United States of America.  

As to South sucking down federal dollars.. so true! Yet, you can credit that with the failed Reconstruction Era.... and the death of Abraham Lincoln. The vast bulk of southern men from the war died or left. The people running the south are all carpet baggers. That is northerners that came in with dollars to continue the pillaging. It continues to this day, (in effect) with all dollars drawn out of the south and sent up to the north east to land owners.  

History is written by the winner. But in time... and with digging, it is possible to find more truth than is offered to school children. It makes the time no less though, nor does it clear up a "right and wrong" side. Slavery was no more an issue to that war than Tea ( Boston tea party) was to the US revolution.

NC, use REASON,,IF Indeed the fight was about slavery, then wouldnt the Emancipation Proclamation have been at the beginning of the war?


Again, youve been educated by a system with an agenda. Youve GOT to educate yourself & be ready to accept that youve been lied to over & over in order to get to the truth. Ohh,, & By the way, its a painful journey at first. Gets easier, tho..


"My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause."
by:
     
Abraham Lincoln

Now, you still insist it was about slavery?

Paraquat wrote on 04/22/14 at 09:20:18:



I think this is more to the point than anything about Bundy. The BLM has decided to use functions here-to-fore used by agencies seeking to protect either high ranking government officials or the public at large, when local law enforcement was thought to be insufficient. Thus the Secret Service uses it to protect the president, or president candidates ( such as at primaries) or for large event such as the superbowl.
For the BLM to use that sets a horrendous precedent. This is not a party thing... its a government thing. Use of "First Amendment Areas" in order to deny public knowledge of a government action is not good.

now the media (media being govt spokesperson) will paint Bundy a racist, therefore a demon worthy of imprisonment (or death)

remember the Waco mess? The govt painted them all as child molesters and then parked an APC over the escape hatch killing all the women & children from smoke inhalation

1st amendment area? WTF is that? doesn't sound like free press to me

http://theblacksphere.net/2014/4/black-marine-clive-bundy-no-racist


--Steve

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How many times have we heard similar statements from elected Republican leaders? A few weeks ago Paul Ryan claimed that the real problem for African-Americans was that a whole generation of black men had grown up not knowing the value of work. The idea that black people were better off as slaves has been a theme running through the Republican Party for years. In addition, a Republican at either the Tea Party Convention or the Republican National Convention claimed that white people had nothing to apologize for with regards to slavery because slavery had provided a roof over the heads of black slaves. Finally, Republicans like Ronald Reagan have been using the idea of lazy black people on the government dole to attempt to win and win elections for decades.

I realize it's no surprise that this garbage coming out of "Ms. North County"'s mouth is all lies, but it's staggering the brainwashing the liberal media and entertainment culture has done to Americans. Whomever the Republicans put up for President in 2016 will be called a racist in one fashion or another......   watch for it and you'll see it everywhere, but if you to examine it closely, you'll find no greater % of racist on the conservative side as you would on the liberal side; with the help of their liberal allies, they just hide it better.

Along those lines, listen to the recording of the LA Clippers owner.... what a moron... How a guy could make that much money and be that stupid should give anyone who wants to move ahead hope they can. He simply worked harder to get ahead a little, saved his money, got into real estate and over the years, made millions. He clearly things of people as property.... he's going to die a very 'poor' man....   Classic case of someone thing money is the be all to end all. It aint. I've been dirt poor and I've been not poor, it's better to be not poor, but it doesn't change who you are.