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Reply #33 - 12/16/13 at 04:36:25
 
I looked at the test samples yesterday.  All looked normal except for the Premium sample.  It has a phase seperation and some kind of liquid is settling out in the bottom of jug.....I imagine it is the ethanol coming out of suspension in the gasoline.  None of the metal pieces or the rubber O-Ring show any corrosion or damage yet.  I tried to get a photo....but it was out of focus and didn't show anything....I will try again.

I checked it last week and didn't notice anything.....so it takes about 50 days for the ethanol to begin to seperate when stored in an unheated building similart to a carport.
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Reply #34 - 12/16/13 at 07:13:15
 
Thanks for the update. Of course, scrollin down past that angel is never a bother.
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Reply #35 - 12/16/13 at 08:20:21
 
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Premium is breakin' down huh?... How 'bout dat'... Huh...
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Reply #36 - 12/16/13 at 08:46:29
 
Thanks for the update Dave, and for the long term test itself  Wink
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Reply #37 - 12/16/13 at 08:58:50
 
rubber will be difficult to tell w/out taking it out.

some expand, some get softer.
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Reply #38 - 12/18/13 at 03:44:52
 
This is the best photo I can get with my crappy camera.  It is the Premium fuel that now has a small amount of phase seperation....or some yelllow liquid has sunk to the bottom of the bottle.  I might try and get a better picture with my cell phone.



And just so you all don't lose interest in this thread.....here is something a bit more exciting to look at that also is fuel related.

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Reply #39 - 12/18/13 at 08:22:24
 

Ya'll ar making my eyes hurt !

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and Scrolling down use to be so easy !!!   Grin

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Reply #40 - 12/18/13 at 08:43:44
 
Let's keep it motorcycle related... Huh...

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Reply #41 - 02/23/14 at 17:19:56
 
Well.....it has been right at 4 months since I stated this test and there has been enough activity to justify an update.  We have had some wet weather, dry weather, some really cold temperatures down around -10, and some warm days up in the 60's.  Today I went out and brought the box of bottles into the garage and took a look.



The two noticeable problems were in the Premium pump fuel and the Regular Pump Fuel that I added Startron to.

The Premium Pump gas has continued to seperate, and the steel piece has started to rust, and the aluminum and the brass look fine.  This was the first fuel to show the onset of seperation......so maybe the theory that Premium sits in the tanks longer has some truth to it.




The Regular pump fuel with Statron has also had some seperation and the steel is rusting, the aluminum has started to grow an orange/clear gel...but the brass looks fine.



The pump regular bottle I had appeared not to be regular as it was green colored.....so I must have confused it with either some 2 stroke mix or some with preservative - so I dumped it and started a new regular test on December 17th, and so far it has not done anything weird.

So the results indicate to me - that if you store your motorycle or yard equipment in a carport or shed that can experience the Northern Kentukucky temperature and humidity swings......in less than one winter of storage you can begin to have fuel issues that can result in steel rusting and aluminum corroding.  I will continue the test for a while longer.....maybe let it go a full year!
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Reply #42 - 02/23/14 at 21:34:00
 
Yeah,.. keep it going...
I think you're making a rainbow... Huh...

Amazing,... the colors...  
I don't know what it means,... but I wasn't expecting such a visual change...
Please continue., (at this point I wouldn't use any of the samples).. so,... keep it going...
Let's see the ultimate whatwhat... Huh...
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Reply #43 - 02/24/14 at 04:36:51
 
Yea Dave as long as it's not an inconvenience, it would be great to see a truly long term finish to this test   Smiley

Truly great info so far, thanks again!
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Reply #44 - 02/24/14 at 05:00:01
 
The different colors are caused by:

E85 is clear like water.
The Avgas 100LL is light blue.
The Sunoco racing fuel is green.
The Countrymark 90+ ethanol free is amber.
The Pump fuels have a yellow tint.

I had tried this test a couple years ago and the samples were in my heated and insulated garage, and withouth the temperature and humidity changes the fuels were much more stable.....and lasted more than a year without changes....although eventually the pump gas did have a phase seperation.
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