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Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4
Reply #15 - 04/17/13 at 00:11:54

srinath wrote on 04/16/13 at 11:57:27:

houstonbofh wrote on 04/16/13 at 11:25:09:

Really? How is 47 million "included" in 4.3 million?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/46609072-people-food-stamps-2012_706745.html

Can you breathe with your head up there?

Read that sentence again - OR get your grammar lessons -
I wrote [i]So lets see, 4.3 million on welfare, 5.1 mill unemployed, 8.7 mill disabled, and most of these likely included in the 47 million on SNAP.

Not in this thread you didn't You go read it again. You NEVER said anything more that 4.3 million until I asked how that included the 47 million on welfare. This is another reason the shrinks would take your guns away. Delusional behavior is an automatic fail.

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Midnightrider Serious Thumper Offline Alliance Member Posts: 3244 Winston Salem, NC	Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Reply #16 - 04/17/13 at 00:54:49 I don't see why Romney should care if 100% were on welfare. Everyone knows his money is in the Caymans and Swiss banks. Anyone that refuses to show you their tax records isn't paying but a small percentage of what they owe.
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Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4
Reply #17 - 04/17/13 at 04:10:41

Dane Allen wrote on 04/16/13 at 22:45:05:

Wow, you paid $6 million in taxes?? Well, almost 6 million, 13% doubled is 26% and you say you paid 23% and make a big fuss about it so if you paid anything less than $5 million in taxes then you have nothing to complain about. You should be thanking Romney for his generous refusal to leave the country and take his rightfully earned money with him..

I paid 23% in taxes - opposed to RMoney's 13% - how many times to tell you that ?

And RMoney doesn't get to leave and take his $ with him, he still needs to pay US income tax. You can live outside the US, but still need to pay US income taxes - he he look it up. Once again he's offering to break the rules. Probably he'll manipulate his cronies in govt to let him soon enough.

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Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4
Reply #18 - 04/17/13 at 05:28:53

houstonbofh wrote on 04/17/13 at 00:11:54:

srinath wrote on 04/16/13 at 11:57:27:

houstonbofh wrote on 04/16/13 at 11:25:09:

Really? How is 47 million "included" in 4.3 million?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/46609072-people-food-stamps-2012_706745.html

Can you breathe with your head up there?

Read that sentence again - OR get your grammar lessons -
I wrote [i]So lets see, 4.3 million on welfare, 5.1 mill unemployed, 8.7 mill disabled, and most of these likely included in the 47 million on SNAP.

Not in this thread you didn't You go read it again. You NEVER said anything more that 4.3 million until I asked how that included the 47 million on welfare. This is another reason the shrinks would take your guns away. Delusional behavior is an automatic fail.

Wrong again Houstonbofh - this below is my post from a few hours before your post about 47 mill -

srinath wrote on 04/16/13 at 09:06:07:

And since you brought up disability -

The number of workers taking federal disability insurance payments hit yet another record in July, increasing to 8,753,935 during the month from the previous record of 8,733,461 set in June, according to newly released data from the Social Security Administration.

Thia is the site: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/8753935-workers-disability-set-another-record...

So lets see, 4.3 million on welfare, 5.1 mill unemployed, 8.7 mill disabled, and most of these likely included in the 47 million on SNAP.
Still dont count to 47%. Closer to 20% ... 335 million+ illegals (10-80million) right.

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Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4
Reply #19 - 04/17/13 at 09:26:33

[quote author=686972757A6F731B0 link=1366060870/0#10 date=1366138647]houstonbofh wrote on 04/16/13 at 11:25:09:

Paraquat wrote:
Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush. Point the finger all you want.
If Obama wanted to go back and criticize everything Bush did he would've. In fact it was one of his campaign promises, remember? But he didn't.

He didn't cos he's continuing it. He didn't because that would look like he's not even going to try. You (as a republicommunist team on savage) are blaming Obama where you should have been blaming Bush.

I doubt I'm a republican or a communist.

I do blame Bush. I disliked Bush a great deal. The very notion of the Patriot Act is insane. I wish someone went back and reviewed everything Bush did to straighten this ship we're all on and restore the Constitution.
Obama promised he would. I won't lie - I got excited hearing that in his campaign promises (Still voted independent).
...and then he didn't.

So if you can understand where I am coming from: I didn't like Bush, I don't like Obama. Obama has (had) a chance to fix it and didn't. I dislike liars.

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Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4
Reply #20 - 04/17/13 at 10:09:40

[quote author=0E3F2C3F2F2B3F2A5E0 link=1366060870/15#19 date=1366215993]srinath wrote on 04/16/13 at 11:57:27:

houstonbofh wrote on 04/16/13 at 11:25:09:

Paraquat wrote:
Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush. Point the finger all you want.
If Obama wanted to go back and criticize everything Bush did he would've. In fact it was one of his campaign promises, remember? But he didn't.

He didn't cos he's continuing it. He didn't because that would look like he's not even going to try. You (as a republicommunist team on savage) are blaming Obama where you should have been blaming Bush.

I doubt I'm a republican or a communist.

I do blame Bush. I disliked Bush a great deal. The very notion of the Patriot Act is insane. I wish someone went back and reviewed everything Bush did to straighten this ship we're all on and restore the Constitution.
Obama promised he would. I won't lie - I got excited hearing that in his campaign promises (Still voted independent).
...and then he didn't.

So if you can understand where I am coming from: I didn't like Bush, I don't like Obama. Obama has (had) a chance to fix it and didn't. I dislike liars.

--Steve

If you look at Obama's exposure to Marxism and his advocacy for such then it kinda makes sense that Obama broke most of his promises. Liberals are out to replace the Constitution with something more flexible so as to control us better. Marxism isn't a conspiracy theory, it is a real lfe ideology/religion that worships the State over the individual. It's the source of crazy ideas like $100 taxes on individual bullets and outlawing caves and bats. Obama never intended to protect our rights.

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Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4
Reply #21 - 04/17/13 at 14:08:24

Parquat: No one liked Obama. No one believed Obama will keep his promises. No one voted for Obama. Everyone voted against Mitt "I paid 13% in taxes and hide behind the fact that it was 3 million dollars and confuse people into thinking I paid at the rate they pay their taxes" RMoney.

Obama is a dirt bag cos he did't do what he said he would. RMoney is a far bigger and stinkier Dirtbag cos the fear was he would do what he said.

We are under No illusion on the librull side. We just picked the smaller dirtbag. You are comparing the current president to a hypothetical Ideal. You compare him to RMoney like we did on Nov 6th.
RMoney and Ryan lost both MA and WI. The people that knew them best, soundly rejected them. And try this - Only John Frémont in 1856 lost his home state by a larger margin than Romney out of the 100 major party presidential nominees on the ballot since the formation of the Democratic Party in 1828

That is not a state voting for someone, its voting against the person they know better. AKA anyone but him.

You can beat this anyway you like ... I'll circle back to the 13% RMoney paid in taxes. Most of the rest paying over 20% are feeling like they are being robbed.

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Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4
Reply #22 - 04/17/13 at 20:55:32

srinath wrote on 04/17/13 at 05:28:53:

houstonbofh wrote on 04/17/13 at 00:11:54:

srinath wrote on 04/16/13 at 11:57:27:

houstonbofh wrote on 04/16/13 at 11:25:09:

Really? How is 47 million "included" in 4.3 million?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/46609072-people-food-stamps-2012_706745.html

Can you breathe with your head up there?

Read that sentence again - OR get your grammar lessons -
I wrote [i]So lets see, 4.3 million on welfare, 5.1 mill unemployed, 8.7 mill disabled, and most of these likely included in the 47 million on SNAP.

Not in this thread you didn't You go read it again. You NEVER said anything more that 4.3 million until I asked how that included the 47 million on welfare. This is another reason the shrinks would take your guns away. Delusional behavior is an automatic fail.

Wrong again Houstonbofh - this below is my post from a few hours before your post about 47 mill -

And several hours after your post were you said food stamps were included. But you are right I missed the post.

The fact that;
It was after what I was replying to...
Was burred in several other posts...
And directly contradicts what you said earlier...
...may have someone confused me.

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Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4
Reply #24 - 04/17/13 at 21:33:26

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... I'll circle back to the 13% RMoney paid in taxes. Most of the rest paying over 20% are feeling like they are being robbed.

He paid $3 million in taxes, how much did you pay in dollars? why do you keep dodging the truth of the matter? You keep throwing this apple vs oranges comparison and then run away. How much did you pay IN DOLLARS??

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Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4
Reply #25 - 04/18/13 at 05:35:49

houstonbofh wrote on 04/17/13 at 20:55:32:

srinath wrote on 04/17/13 at 05:28:53:

houstonbofh wrote on 04/17/13 at 00:11:54:

srinath wrote on 04/16/13 at 11:57:27:

houstonbofh wrote on 04/16/13 at 11:25:09:

Really? How is 47 million "included" in 4.3 million?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/46609072-people-food-stamps-2012_706745.html

Can you breathe with your head up there?

Read that sentence again - OR get your grammar lessons -
I wrote So lets see, 4.3 million on welfare, 5.1 mill unemployed, 8.7 mill disabled, and most of these likely included in the 47 million on SNAP.

Not in this thread you didn't You go read it again. You NEVER said anything more that 4.3 million until I asked how that included the 47 million on welfare. This is another reason the shrinks would take your guns away. Delusional behavior is an automatic fail.

Wrong again Houstonbofh - this below is my post from a few hours before your post about 47 mill -

And several hours after your post were you said food stamps were included. But you are right I missed the post.

The fact that;
It was after what I was replying to...
Was burred in several other posts...
And directly contradicts what you said earlier...
...may have someone confused me.

OK fine - and I didn't quite contradict it, I just didn't talk about it before that.

[i]People voted identity politics, to get free stuff and to push the costs of socialism onto someone else. Plain and simple.

Maybe, but that was cos they didn't want to be identified with Mitt "the dirt bag" RMoney ...

He paid $3 million in taxes, how much did you pay in dollars? why do you keep dodging the truth of the matter? You keep throwing this apple vs oranges comparison and then run away. How much did you pay IN DOLLARS??

None of your business ... Its 23%, that's all you need to know, and I'll bet its more than yours - and if Mitt "I've hidden my $$$ in cayman Islands, and on the rest I pay 13% in tax, and offer to pay no tax at all by leaving the country even though the tax code says I have to" RMoney were to have paid 23% before he manipulated the tax codes with his cronies of big business and Bush, I'm sure He'd have more than 47% voting for him.

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Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4
Reply #26 - 04/18/13 at 08:51:58

srinath wrote on 04/17/13 at 04:10:41:

Dane Allen wrote on 04/16/13 at 22:45:05:

Wow, you paid $6 million in taxes?? Well, almost 6 million, 13% doubled is 26% and you say you paid 23% and make a big fuss about it so if you paid anything less than $5 million in taxes then you have nothing to complain about. You should be thanking Romney for his generous refusal to leave the country and take his rightfully earned money with him..

I paid 23% in taxes - opposed to RMoney's 13% - how many times to tell you that ?
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Good News!!! You can stop telling me that because it doesn't mean anything. $3 million dollars is a tangible amount. 23% of a mystery is nothing so I have to assume you paid nothing. I am very thankful to Romney for his $3 million in taxes and his $2 million in charity. 23% of nothing is zero.

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Reply #27 - 04/18/13 at 09:21:48

Dane Allen wrote on 04/18/13 at 08:51:58:

Good News!!! You can stop telling me that because it doesn't mean anything. $3 million dollars is a tangible amount. 23% of a mystery is nothing so I have to assume you paid nothing. I am very thankful to Romney for his $3 million in taxes and his $2 million in charity. 23% of nothing is zero.

Yes more judging belittling and blaming ... yea I paid $0 ... <---THIS IS SARCASM FOR THE MORON WHO CANT UNDERSTAND.

Lets try this again ... RMoney paid 13%. Obama paid 20.5%. Go cry somewhere else, RMoney is a tax cheat - if not a tax dodger, he's got his cronies to manipulate the tax code in his favor.
He and you can hide behind the 3 million all he wants. The rest of the country sees him as a tax cheat. His ignorance may be all that is left to debate. His offer to leave the country with his $$$ is telling, as is your repeating of it. He can leave, he still owes US taxes. Now you can also offer his ignorance of the tax code as his cover for dodging taxes.

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Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4
Reply #28 - 04/18/13 at 09:33:26

srinath wrote on 04/18/13 at 09:21:48:

Dane Allen wrote on 04/18/13 at 08:51:58:

Good News!!! You can stop telling me that because it doesn't mean anything. $3 million dollars is a tangible amount. 23% of a mystery is nothing so I have to assume you paid nothing. I am very thankful to Romney for his $3 million in taxes and his $2 million in charity. 23% of nothing is zero.

Yes more judging belittling and blaming ... yea I paid $0 ...

Lets try this again ... RMoney paid 13%. Obama paid 20.5%. Go cry somewhere else, RMoney is a tax cheat - if not a tax dodger, he's got his cronies to manipulate the tax code in his favor.
He and you can hide behind the 3 million all he wants. The rest of the country sees him as a tax cheat. His ignorance may be all that is left to debate. His offer to leave the country with his $$$ is telling, as is your repeating of it. He can leave, he still owes US taxes. Now you can also offer his ignorance of the tax code as his cover for dodging taxes.

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Yes, more deflecting, redirecting, skirting and deception.

I am looking through your precious Goole for evidence (remember how you insinuated that if it isn't in google then it must be untrue) and I don't see where a President Romney or Senator Romney or Representative Romney altered the U.S. tax code in his favor. I don't know what cronies you speak of but I suspect you are comparing apples to oranges again to create a point out of nothing.

Maybe you don't know the difference between a wage and a dividend or the difference between a job and a mutual fund. I am not going to explain it to you but you should know that the only person you are fooling is yourself because we all know these definitions and you look foolish.

Who is dodging taxes? We all know he paid $3 million, you paid nothing by your own admission. I don't know if you are telling the truth about his offering to leave the country with his money but if that is his choice then I say go for it. Better to stop giving you a free ride so you can turn around and stab him in that back.

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Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4
Reply #29 - 04/18/13 at 11:39:09

Dude you said RMoney offered to leave the country with his $$$.

And Bush altered the tax codes - look it up. That was when everything became capital gains ... plus you get to deduct losing stock completely and it gets taken off your taxes. You're the only one even among the republicommunists here that dont know this.

2003. Under President Bush’s leadership, Congress passed a further package of pro-growth tax cuts in 2003. The centerpiece of the law was a cut in the top capital gains rate from 20 to 15 percent and a cut in the top individual rate on dividends from 35 to 15 percent. Tax experts had long discussed the distortionary effects of the excessive taxation of corporate equity in the U.S. tax code. Under the 2003 law, the capital gains and dividend cuts were set to expire after 2008.

From http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/tax-policy-under-president-bush

And they are libertarian - so they are for lower taxes - Like I said you're the only one who doesn't know this.

And people who pay 23% are not paying 0 in taxes no matter what. One more of those missing math lessons I guess.

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