WebsterMark wrote on 04/16/13 at 07:56:25:Yea and what about it ? Its counted in these numbers.
are you sure about that?
Welfare has turned into a broad term. I'll grant you that those getting benefits for the specific definition of welfare is 4.3 million. Those getting the equivalent of welfare under a different program is quite a bit larger and growing everyday. The increase in disability payments is huge; that % increase can be essentially added to what we generally call 'those on welfare'.
personally, I would not lump all those on unemployment as being on welfare. I would say a great number of those on unemployment for a long period of time can be counted as 'being on welfare'. I knew a guy who stayed on unemployment as long as he could, not looking for a job, playing video games for year and a half, milking other government programs. he was never technically counted in srinath's 4.3 million as being a welfare recipient, but he was from a practical sense.
The bottom line is it's a staggering high number living off uncle sam and growing daily. Romney's 47% comment was somewhat taken out of context and fools like our friend srinath (who's the equivalent of 'the walking dead') bought the line hook, line and sinker.
Disability - glad you brought that up - so that would be the guy with his leg blown off in Iraq and the guy who lost 1/2 his brain in afghanisthan right ? Good, so who's paying for it ? Obama is your guess. And who caused it ? Not Obama, Bush is my guess.
There is a guy who didn't work and this and that, we all know these cases ... there is a few 100,000 that way. It still is part of the 5.1 million was it - on unemployment, and not the 4.3 million on welfare.
In a sense Bush opened the flood gates - the biggest change for qualifying for these programs happened under Bush. He knows his demographic. Much Like our local republicomunnist Pat McCrory. He cut unemployment benefit payments, and didn't touch welfare.
Anyway Bush also sent a lot of people to slaughter under false pretenses and some of them came back only partially slaughtered - and they went on the rolls that he expanded. Promptly adding to the deficit which now has been hung on obama's neck by the TEA baggers.
The only 47% still is the 47% that voted for RMoney, who advocates lower taxes for the rich - lower than his 13% opposed to everyone else's 25% and he advocates cutting benefits for the poorest, cos he knows of 1 guy who has been playing video games on unemployment.
Cool.
Srinath.