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Reply #90 - 08/12/12 at 00:02:11

http://www.amazon.com/Zddp-Maxx-Shipping-additive-Phosphorus/dp/B003MAG004/re...

Here is another one, this one is only 2 ounces of liquid so it has NO added carrier oil at all, jest the straight syrupy ZDDP component straight from the 55 gallon drum (it will be all ooky & stuck all over the bottom of the little bottle fer shure where the combined heavy metals went out of solution)

Price isn't as good as the Eastwood, is same price as the ZDDPlus. Instructions lead me to think it is less effective at boosting than the others.

Info is here http://www.zddpus.com/ZDDP_Maxx_p/zddpmaxx-5bottle.htm

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Reply #91 - 08/12/12 at 06:41:57

Dang, that Eastwood is cheap. Here's a 4-oz bottle for 6-something:
http://www.amazon.com/ZDDP-Engine-Additive-Zinc-Phosphorus/dp/B003FWUWBM/ref=...

Can anyone (who's browser works with their stinking website Cheesy

) find the actual ZDDP in it, or at least a percentage zinc? If the concentration is comparable to ZDDPplus, we got us a winner. If they don't divulge their zinc content.. too bad.

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Reply #92 - 08/12/12 at 06:52:59

Boule’tard wrote on 08/12/12 at 06:41:57:

Dang, that Eastwood is cheap. Here's a 4-oz bottle for 6-something:
http://www.amazon.com/ZDDP-Engine-Additive-Zinc-Phosphorus/dp/B003FWUWBM/ref=...

Can anyone (who's browser works with their stinking website Cheesy

) find the actual ZDDP in it, or at least a percentage zinc? If the concentration is comparable to ZDDPplus, we got us a winner. If they don't divulge their zinc content.. too bad.

Bouletard, Thoroughly checked out the Eastwood site and the only info is the MSDS, no PDS. Dont know if the info is available elsewhere but I'll see if I can dig it up.

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Foxman276 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 35 Nova Scotia, Canada	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #93 - 08/12/12 at 07:07:07 For any Canadian members, ZDDPlus is available at http://www.autopartscanadaonline.ca/zddplus-oil-additives/ One bottle is $10CAD, 2 for $20, etc. Shipping for 2 bottles is $5.
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Reply #94 - 08/12/12 at 07:22:09

Bouletard, it appears that zddplus is made by Eastwood. The specs on zddplus state one 4oz bottle to 5 quarts oil (does not say what grade, just says 160 ozs of oil) would give you 1800 ppm of phosphorus, zinc is a little higher.

Here's the chart:
http://www.zddplus.com/TechBrief1%20-%20Introducing%20ZDDPlus.pdf

Therefore I would be inclined to think the one packaged as Eastwood oil additive would be the same as zddplus given they are made by the same company and are bottled in the same little 4oz bottle.

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Reply #95 - 08/12/12 at 08:01:12

Well that's weird, how come that PDF says the phosphorus to zinc ratio is 0.717 and this pic from the same site says it is 0.802?

Just going by the weights on the periodic table, I thought it should be 0.947. Maybe they are putting more zinc in there than is in the ZDDP?

Eastwood and ZDDPlus probably scoop from the same barrel, but we sure could use some numbers and not have to make that assumption.

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #96 - 08/12/12 at 08:24:39 Jaso-MA 4T oil like KLOTZ and your worries are over. No boosters needed.
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Reply #97 - 08/12/12 at 08:37:23

bill67 wrote on 08/12/12 at 08:24:39:

Jaso-MA 4T oil like KLOTZ and your worries are over. No boosters needed.

Coming from a man that won't change the oil in his bike because he actually believes some company did the impossible and made an oil that does NO WEAR in the engine. That's in the same class as all those peeps that fell for Slick 50 and ended up with stopped up oil pump screens and filters.

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #98 - 08/12/12 at 09:34:35 This reminds of something a fews years back.WMD WMD WMD and it was all a farce.
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Reply #99 - 08/12/12 at 11:51:11

I see different weight ratios quoted for the zinc and the phosphorus in the ZDDP on several of these sites. Don't know enough to explain that fact.

Stuff that is sooooo concentrated you can't get the sediment of the bottom of the bottle mebbe might leave some portion of the goodie behind when you poured it out each time. Mebbe.

(zinc is heavier, right?)

Redline has a clear bottle, and it has clear instructions to shake the piss out of the bottle before pouring as some ZDDP does come out of solution even with the big 16 oz of carrier oil.

Good news is -- if you can get it all out of the little bitty bottle and into the gallon Rotella jug, the suspension package in Rotella will likely keep it up in suspension until you need it. I'd shake it up real real good though.

And I'd shake the piss out of it again before pouring out that last 2 quarts after sitting for most of a year ....

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Reply #100 - 08/12/12 at 12:29:31

Bill wants Weapons of Mass Destruction --- somebody show him the Redline motorcycle oil specs.

Here you go, Bill -- bury your face in these. The new red head on the block is younger, much sweeter, a good bit less costly (w/free shipping) and she is definitely better stacked than your old red head ever was.

Take a deep breath first though before starting, she tends to smother you a bit.

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=109&pcid=21

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #101 - 08/12/12 at 13:11:08 Caution! Caution! Your S40 will self destruct by high noon tomorrow if you don't use rotella oil,Motorcycle oil will just not work in the S40.
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Reply #102 - 08/12/12 at 13:25:50

rfw2003 wrote on 08/12/12 at 08:37:23:

bill67 wrote on 08/12/12 at 08:24:39:

Jaso-MA 4T oil like KLOTZ and your worries are over. No boosters needed.

Coming from a man that won't change the oil in his bike because he actually believes some company did the impossible and made an oil that does NO WEAR in the engine. That's in the same class as all those peeps that fell for Slick 50 and ended up with stopped up oil pump screens and filters.

R.F.

rfw 2003 is that slick 50 what you use on your hair.

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HondaLavis Senior Member Offline It's nothing personal; the other one came first. Posts: 451 Plano, TX	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #103 - 08/12/12 at 15:00:33 Thought I'd throw another couple cents in here. http://www.torcousa.com/technology/ZEP.pdf Weight by percentage: 1.95% zinc 1.68% phosphorous 6.8& sulfur
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Reply #104 - 08/12/12 at 15:22:35

This stuff claims to be a perfect mixture of moly, phosphorous and zinc. It might be good in a separate sump muscle car, but not in a motorcycle with a wet clutch shared sump.

Moly we don't need in a wet clutch motorcycle engine, so this one isn't in consideration for the moly content that it is so proud to tell you about in the very first sentence.

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