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When I am working on an engine & the oil is out of it & Will be out of it till Im done, like the stuff Ive been doing on mine, I put a note on it, I used a piece of duct tape with "No OIl" wrapped on the iggy switch. I put notes on a steering wheel when I have several things going on on a car. Tighten this, adjust that, stuff like that,. In fact, writing yourself a "work Order" before starting in can be a big benefit. Check things off.

I had many responsibilities & was hurried & harried by the bosses at a job. I was the mechanic, maintaining about 6 oilfield trucks, I did the bodywork, drove trucks, worked in the field, & I forgot to add oil after  replaced the bearings & seals & brakes on a wheel hub on an 18 wheeler type tractor,,Watching it develop an unnatural wobble & fly off as I brought the speed down to about 30 was almost a heart stopper..Fixing That was a Big Hassle..

im a sceptic so......3.2

Here is a series of emails, in his own words, C&P'd
Jog is the wimnner here !
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I drove it home from Salida, about 10 miles, then one trip to the bank about four blocks, then the day it blew, maybe four miles. So say 15 miles or so. I'm lucky it didn't seize up on the freeway coming home from Salida!
-Dale
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From: Rich poelstra <rjsfishin@live.com>
To: Dale Gillespie <fishwishr@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 6:52 AM
Subject: RE: Sunday

Bout how many miles 4 she blu ?? I got to report that on the forum !

You you should buy a "Harley" !

Rich

Sunday‏

6:46 AM Reply ▼
Dale Gillespie

To Rich poelstra

Nope. I didn't hear any unusual noise 'til seconds before it seized. Then a squealing sound that caught my attention real quick. And I didn't notice any bluing on the pipe. No oil burning, either, since there was no oil to burn. I know you and your bro love these S40s but for the few miles I've put on this one, I sure have my headaches (Most with things that aren't the bike's fault):

By the way, Craig was here when Tommy came by and witnessed everything he said. I just don't want to keep this bike any more. But we'll see how this latest issue plays out.
-Dale

From: Rich poelstra <rjsfishin@live.com>
To: Dale Gillespie <fishwishr@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 6:19 AM
Subject: RE: Saturday
You probably don't want to talk about that bike anymore, but I am so dam curious about all that took place there !
Such a shame, because the engine/trans in these bike are know to be near indestructible w/ even minimal care.
But,....if no oil was put back in it, how in thee hell did it run that far ? About how many miles would you guess-tamate ?
And how in the hell did you not hear that something was amiss ? It seems like before it blew, it would have been one noisy
rattlin bucket of bolts !
And w/o oil, how hot did it get before it seized ? Is the header pipe solid blue,......engine smokin etc ?

If it really had no oil put back in, that motor is one tough Umbrae !! I'm keepin mine !


You know I rode the bike home from Salida on Wednesday and been fighting the battery ever since. Got a free replacement battery from NorCal and that's now fine.
Fired up the bike and drove down to MickeyD's in town near us and had a couple of those $1 sandwiches. Best deal in town! Then fired it up and headed east on 120. I got past Jack Tone Rd and it froze up on me! It flat would not turn over and if not for the clutch it would have stopped dead in the road.  I pushed the darn thing for half a mile then gave up, called John and he came and towed me home. I checked the oil window and there was no oil. And it hadn't dripped any nor smoked any. THE DUMMY MECHANIC DIDN'T PUT ANY OIL IN!! I called the shop when I got in and Tommy the owner said he'd come right over. And he did. He was very concerned. So he's going to try to find a salvaged motor/tranny in good condition and upon my approval will put the new motor in and warranty it for me as long as I own the bike. All this is IF he sees that his man (a new young fella just out of WyoTech) didn't put oil in it. He says his shop has full surveillance and he can probably tell whether he did or not.  He said he'd call ASAP and get me in and out in a hurry. And that he or another experienced guy he has will do the work. I told him I didn't want the same guy again and he said he'd be gone anyway. So that's where it stands now. I hope he does as he says, and he DID come right over on his busiest day of the week to see the bike.

Dale

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Routy, did he say what shop he went to?   I want to make sure I steer wayyy clear of that one.
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He said it was kind of a Hawg type shop in Salida Ca,......

Nuts. I was hoping that the motorcycle shop name could remain out of this conversation for now, but since it's here - yes, it was Full Throttle. This shop does mainly Hardleys but they also take others. They have a dyno out front and he does all the super tuning for bikes from the local Hardley dealer. The owner doubtless knows his stuff. His new employee, fresh out of WyoTech, probably not so much.

Now, as Greg said, it isn't hard to overlook a critical item such as OIL. But as per my discussion with the shop owner when he came to my home AT ONCE after I called him, and on his busiest day of the week (Saturday), it's not as much what he breaks as what he fixes. So for now I am giving him the benefit of the doubt and I'd hate to see him crucified here after showing such good character yesterday.

Of course, until my bike is fixed to my satisfaction, his true colors won't be known, but I'll keep Routy posted and he'll likely keep y'all up to date if you're interested how all this plays out. I'm hoping...

Dale

360k+ wrote on 06/03/12 at 09:35:12:




Oh I am one heck of a Google doctor!  

Well,.. brain farts do happen,...  the shop owners resolution sounds fare...

Hope it all works out... ...