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Built2Last Serious Thumper Offline Tempt Fate Posts: 1447 FTF Gender:	suzuki oil vs klotz 12/04/11 at 17:23:16 Which kind klotz do you use (not thickness)? Can anyone sum up the differences?
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: suzuki oil vs klotz Reply #2 - 12/04/11 at 18:10:45 Mx4 is their newest and best,I use 15w/50.10w/40 doesn't have the zero wear rating only 15w/50.
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Gyrobob Serious Thumper Offline Posers ain't motorcyclists Posts: 2571 Newnan, GA Gender:	Re: suzuki oil vs klotz Reply #3 - 12/04/11 at 18:35:43 Built2Last wrote on 12/04/11 at 17:23:16: Which kind klotz do you use (not thickness)? Can anyone sum up the differences? Mix the two together to make sure all the bases are covered,.... Klotzuki
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Reply #4 - 12/04/11 at 18:40:27

Gyrobob wrote on 12/04/11 at 18:35:43:

Built2Last wrote on 12/04/11 at 17:23:16:

Which kind klotz do you use (not thickness)? Can anyone sum up the differences? Cheesy

Mix the two together to make sure all the bases are covered,.... Klotzuki

Haha... I'm gonna try Klotz out, I've been using Suzuki since I got the bike (thought I couldn't go wrong with their own brand) but since everyone says it's garbage guess I'll move on...

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28770 L.A. California Gender:	Re: suzuki oil vs klotz Reply #5 - 12/04/11 at 19:06:52 Klotz doesn't play well with other oils. make sure to tip the bike from side to side to get all of the old oil out. do it several times, then I'd change it after a day of riding.
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Reply #6 - 12/04/11 at 20:14:02

Castrol GTX. This isn't the 1980s where the difference between oil and urine was questionable.

http://www.moneybluebook.com/the-3000-mile-oil-change-myth-save-your-money/

"Even in the severe driving conditions that a New York City taxi endures, we noted no benefit from changing the oil every 3,000 miles rather than every 6,000. If your driving falls into the "normal" service category, changing the oil every 7,500 miles (or at the automaker's suggested intervals) should certainly provide adequate protection. (We recommend changing the oil filter with each oil change.)"

2 quarts of anything every 5k and you're good.

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: suzuki oil vs klotz Reply #8 - 12/05/11 at 02:05:55 verslagen1 wrote on 12/04/11 at 19:06:52: Klotz doesn't play well with other oils. make sure to tip the bike from side to side to get all of the old oil out. do it several times, then I'd change it after a day of riding.
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Reply #9 - 12/05/11 at 06:48:46

Who ever said Zuzuski oil was junk ? Mite have said only a fool would buy it at price. But forget the brands of oil, cuz I know there ain't a dimes worth of difference tween'm anyway.

But how does a MFG, or a book, or anyone else, other than the person looking at the dipstick know when oil should be changed ???

You change oil when it starts to get dirty, DUH ???
Or when your Raptor makes your oil so thin, your con rod starts talking to ya ! Undecided

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Reply #10 - 12/05/11 at 08:06:28

Routy wrote on 12/05/11 at 06:48:46:

Who ever said Zuzuski oil was junk ? Mite have said only a fool would buy it at price. But forget the brands of oil, cuz I know there ain't a dimes worth of difference tween'm anyway.

But how does a MFG, or a book, or anyone else, other than the person looking at the dipstick know when oil should be changed ???

You change oil when it starts to get dirty, DUH ???
Or when your Raptor makes your oil so thin, your con rod starts talking to ya ! Undecided

Detergent oil is supposed to look dirty fairly quickly. If it stays clear-looking for a long time, either you have the only engine on the planet with no blow-by, or your detergent oil is not "deterging."

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houstonbofh Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 420 Houston, TX Gender:	Re: suzuki oil vs klotz Reply #11 - 12/05/11 at 08:15:00 feelinjunky wrote on 12/04/11 at 20:14:02: 2 quarts of anything every 5k and you're good. Modern automotive oils have friction modifiers, and putting those in a wet clutch system is a bad thing...
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Re: suzuki oil vs klotz
Reply #12 - 12/05/11 at 08:27:24

Gyrobob wrote on 12/05/11 at 08:06:28:

Routy wrote on 12/05/11 at 06:48:46:

Who ever said Zuzuski oil was junk ? Mite have said only a fool would buy it at price. But forget the brands of oil, cuz I know there ain't a dimes worth of difference tween'm anyway.

But how does a MFG, or a book, or anyone else, other than the person looking at the dipstick know when oil should be changed ???

You change oil when it starts to get dirty, DUH ???
Or when your Raptor makes your oil so thin, your con rod starts talking to ya ! Undecided

Detergent oil is supposed to look dirty fairly quickly. If it stays clear-looking for a long time, either you have the only engine on the planet with no blow-by, or your detergent oil is not "deterging."

Being quite new to a low mileage engine, I was quite surprised to see the oil remain amber for close to a week. Generally, there's enough left over oil to tint the new oil immediately.

Once you get to know your savage, you will notice when it needs to be change quite easily. It's starts to disapear, it starts to shift differently, anything out of character for you and your bike.

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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12638 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: suzuki oil vs klotz Reply #13 - 12/05/11 at 11:09:42 Routy sez "You change oil when it starts to get dirty, DUH ??? Or when your Raptor makes your oil so thin, your con rod starts talking to ya !" I call the Challenge --- Routy, produce evidence that a Raptor petcock has ever diluted the oil in the sump on a Savage ls650 or S40 or eat yer words.
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12638 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: suzuki oil vs klotz Reply #14 - 12/05/11 at 11:13:30 Built2last, You will be the second person to attempt to impartially try out Klotz oil to see if it offers anything much different to the user. How shall you judge your previous oil vs the Klotz oil? Will you collect any data or evidence, if so what sort of data?
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