Gyrobob wrote on 12/16/11 at 11:04:09:


It appears that your sources are just worded differently, because Dasch just quoted you as saying the Yugo is from the US if you read his response, and the Yugo plant was still bombed either way right (assuming it was attached directly to the arms plant)?

Not of this stuff is even cited in the Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zastava_Koral#Basic_information

How about a nice toilet bowl cleaner bomb.. 1 secret toilet bowl cleaner + a nice amount of tinfoil and a 2 liter bottle.. don't worry it's more like a novelty bomb, doubt it'd even blow your hand off since its a pressure bomb.. just really really loud

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 12/16/11 at 15:06:27:


What would it home in on?

Built2Last wrote on 12/16/11 at 14:09:56:



Quote from wikipedia:
Zastava Automobiles (Serbian pronunciation: [zāːstaʋa]) is a Serbian industrial conglomerate based in the city of Kragujevac in central Serbia, currently run as a joint venture between the Fiat Group (67%) and the Serbian government (33%).[1] It is most known for its Fiat-based automobiles, which began assembling in 1955 for Eastern European markets. The firm also manufactures military and sporting small arms, most of them based on Russian and German design, under the name Zastava Arms.

I am not sure, never actually been there, but I guess both factories are in same compound. Anyhow, they started with a copy of Fiat 127 I think in 70's, sold under "zastava 101". Thos actually had genuine Fiat engines first, then we started making our own. Not good. Yugo in shape US knows it came around 84 for Yu market, export started late 80's. And failed. It is a crappy car. Maybe it's because of bad oil?? Boy, wish we had Klotz back then...  

UPDATE: wiki actualy says they started making cars in 55!! Must be that "Zastava 750", copy of Fiat 500 "topolino". FWDs came early 70s.

yeah, this '55 makes very little sense... I think it's about 5-10 years later... nuff of Yugo history, between Suzuki and Klotz I choose Castrol!

 
Hummmm ..... oil is getting even more interesting as the new car oil standards (newer than SM) get into full swing.

New standard car oils are getting specified such that they WILL cause a wet clutch to slip eventually.   Plus they are removing even more of the ZDDP compounds that we need in a Savage engine.    Car makers are doing this because they must take out ZDDP to keep the catalytic mufflers working longer (EPA), then they must put in other things like moly powder and teflon to try to replace the ZDDP they took out.

Clutch slippage in Japanese motorcycles has become so much of an issue that the JASO standard has been rewritten to become a very specific almost totally clutch testing based standard.

JASO MA2 is the new standard, it breaks everything down into groups since motorcycles are beginning to grow catalytic converters too .....





My Oh My, them erl wars are gonna get nasty over the next few years ...  

...anyone who puts "any old car oil on sale" in their bike is in for an eventual nasty surprise.


http://www.jalos.or.jp/onfile/pdf/4T_EV0604.pdf