Boule’tard wrote on 04/06/12 at 10:50:49:

Exactly.  When you add in any significant amount of fiber or protein, it typically decreases the GI.

Gyro,.. there is something you're not telling us about your health...
I was under the impression that you were basically healthy, but maybe a few pounds overweight....
You check your blood sugar fanatically... This is not normal...
I've never checked my blood sugar in my life, and neither has most healthy people...

If you are diabetic, or extremely obese, or have some genetic imbalance or intolerance,... perhaps this radical food diet is important to your personal well-being...
... but,.. you have been giving the impression that it should be followed by everybody...  and Dr.WB seems to do the same...
Like it's some curse that effects all mankind...

As surprising as it may be to you,... I, and I believe most people, don't feel any different, metabolically, if I eat two doughnuts or if I eat a chicken salad...
I feel full or empty, hungry or satisfied,.. but, that's all...

So,.. are you sicker than we think,.. or are you a hypochondriac?...
... 'cause,.. I don't even know how to check my blood sugar, and I bet most people don't... unless they are diabetic... or something...  
There's nothing wrong with being attentive to that if you need to, but average people don't...
And, average people don't need this kind of diet...

This is what bothers me about this thread...  You are telling everybody that they really need to do this... and they don't...
... maybe you do... maybe some others do... but, it isn't even healthy for most people...
A healthy adult needs food from the four main food food groups.  ... and it's not some giant conspiracy to make everyone sick...
... and Paleo man wasn't immune to cancer,or arthritis, or anything... he was just the same as us, but tended to die younger from injury, cold, infection, or even rotten teeth...
No magic here,.. no revelation,.. not even a side note to the local news...
Dr.WB is either a quack, or supremely off-track... but, he's making a fortune,.. and he should be paying you a cut of his profits...

Eat a balance of foods, none to excess, and avoid high calorie, high fat, foods,... and move your body...
... and don't worry...
that's my weakness,.. I'm a worrier...  
I don't need a new diet,.. I need to let go... become zen...
... obviously I don't,.. and that explains this rant...

No real personal offence intended, but this WB guy has been promoted for over 50 pages on a motorcycle site...
... and he is most assuredly a money grubbing quack...

... and I didn't read his idiot book... don't need to, never will...

In my state of Wisconsin people are dying every day,I guess its because they eat wheat.

Gyrobob wrote on 04/06/12 at 10:13:56:

If your blood sugars spike that high it is indicating that you might be diabetic. Get yourself checked out right away. The spikes should not be that high in a healthy person.

savage_rob,  You did not react at all normally to being off of wheat and grains, although, only two weeks is not long enough.  Some functions in the body will adjust back to a proper diet of no wheat no grains no sugar in a few days, but many of the functions take weeks or even months.  In fact, problems dealing with the nervous sysetem can take several months to resolve after getting free of wheat.

Arteacher, I don't know where you have been getting your misinformation, but for a typical body that is experiencing the tremendous improvements from being wheat free grain free sugar free for several months, having a large load of sugar dumped in is supposed to cause quite a blood sugar spike.  The overall point, though, is not the amount of the spike.  The lab experiment was to prove or disprove the Doc's claim that 2 slices of "healthy whole grain wheat bread" would cause a spike greater than that of the snickers bar.  His statement is true.

mpescatori, you apparently are getting your misinformation from some of the same places that arteacher does.   Not unusual.  there is a LOT of bad info out there.  Most of what you stated in your post is just wrong.  It agrees with the general opinions of the medical community from a few decades ago, but most of what you say is just incorrect. Your statements about cholesterol expose your ignorance on these subjects.  Have you ever heard of small particle LDL?  I'll bet not.  Trying it out for 2 weeks in pointless,... it tells you nothing.  Even if you really did manage to stay wheat free grain free sugar free and high fat for two weeks, you wouldn't even have gotten past the withdrawal stage.  If you guys would study up on this stuff,... look at the recent research (not recent editorials or magazine articles or nutritionist textbooks written 30 years ago) you'd have a little more credibility.

Gyro: This where I got my information on normal blood sugar levels:^ Daly, Mark E; Vale, C; Walker, M; Littlefield, A; Alberti, KG; Mathers, JC (1998). "Acute effects on insulin sensitivity and diurnal metabolic profiles of a high-sucrose compared with a high starch diet" (PDF). Am J Clin Nutr 1998 (American Society for Clinical Nutrition) 67 (67): 1186–1196. PMID 9625092. Retrieved 2011-02-19.
Their peak levels are much lower than what you are getting.
And their methodology is probably a tad more sophisticated than yours too.
There is either something wrong with your meter, or with you.

Savage_Rob wrote on 04/16/12 at 15:39:51:

You can get test solutions for them that tell you how far off they are, and some self calibrate.

arteacher wrote on 04/16/12 at 12:42:50:


I saw my cardiologist today for a periodic check up.  He has not heard of wheat belly, but he did know about grains and BSSs.  I told him about my numbers and the relative BSS of two slices of bread vs a snickers bar.  He was surprised that the bread caused a higher reading, thinking it would be the other way around.

I asked him specifically about the magnitude of the numbers and he said they were not unusual for someone my size, my age, and done on an empty stomach after fasting for several hours.