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Re: Helmets
Reply #15 - 01/18/11 at 10:14:02

Paladin. wrote on 01/18/11 at 02:38:01:

Year... number of thousand motorcycle accidents.... thousands of motorcyclist deaths within 30 days...
calculated rate of deaths per thousand accidents

1960 100 0.8 8.0
1965 235 1.7 7.2
1970 305 2.3 7.5
1975 372 3.2 8.6
1980 560 5.1 9.1
1985 480 4.6 9.6
1990 180 3.2 17.8
1995 152 2.2 14.5
2000 130 2.9 22.3
2004 150 4.0 26.7
2005 n/a 4.6 higher?

When where sport motorcycles and full face helmets started being popular? I would have to stop the library to check magazines from the '70's - '80's.
Why has the rate of deaths/accidents tripled with more 'protection'?

Cell Phones... Huh

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1985–2008
Year Subscribers
1985 340,213
1986 681,825
1987 1,230,855
1988 2,069,441
1989 3,508,944
1990 5,283,055
1991 7,557,148
1992 11,032,753
1993 16,009,461
1994 24,134,421
1995 33,758,661
1996 44,042,992
1997 55,312,293
1998 69,209,321
1999 86,047,003
2000 109,478,031
2001 128,374,512
2002 140,766,842
2003 158,721,981
2004 182,140,362
2005 207,896,198
2006 233,000,000
2008 262,700,000

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28787 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Helmets Reply #16 - 01/18/11 at 10:18:31 It would be interesting to see the sales and scrap data per year broken out for size and style of m/c.
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Paladin. Serious Thumper Offline Hamster Posts: 4929 Sunny Southern California Gender:	Re: Helmets Reply #17 - 01/18/11 at 14:01:05 Progressive Insurance has the numbers.
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Baldeagle Full Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 163 Hernando MS Gender:	Re: Helmets Reply #18 - 01/18/11 at 17:14:55 When I had my accident last Oct the helmet saved my face from serious injury. The face shield was completely destroyed. Gamble if you want to..........the odds are not in your favor as you tumble down the street like a rag doll. Ride safe
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Helmets Reply #19 - 01/18/11 at 17:41:25 I slid up the bedside of a pickup & smashed my face into the cab corner. The helmet folded in enough to split my lip. Open face? Woulda been Lots of surgery to get me able to eat again. Or, maybe I woulda died.
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Re: Helmets
Reply #20 - 01/19/11 at 15:15:02

In 2005 riding with an open face helmet cost me part of a nose. Putting it back on cost me 56K. Who would have thought a nose cost that much?
In 2007 an open face face helmet cost me a 'face'. My face cost about 125K to put back on, (they had to make the parts).

Today I wear a full face helmet.

The most expensive helmet you can buy wont cover the cost of the ambulance ride, much less the hospital stay. And it might just keep you from going.

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rl153 Serious Thumper Offline S40 Just right! Posts: 900 Bloomfield,CT Gender:	Re: Helmets Reply #21 - 01/19/11 at 17:25:24 Thanks for all the great info, I'm sold! Definately getting two full faced helmets. Whats a good brand for ff helmets and price range?
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Re: Helmets
Reply #22 - 01/19/11 at 19:27:28

Many different brands. You can check your local mc shop or internet. If you check your mc shop, it will allow you to find one that fits your head right.
Prices vary as some brands are higher than others. It all depends on how much your willing to spend, as well as what additions you want on it. Shoeli, Bell, HJC are a few off hand.
Just remember cheapest is not always the best. My first ff I paid $142.00 or. Replaced it after my accident with a ff modular for $192.00.
Go try some different ones on and see what you find to be the best for you. Take care..

kim

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Re: Helmets
Reply #23 - 01/19/11 at 19:38:59

+1 was wearing my HD 3/4 helmet when I was tossed off the bike last Thursday when the sidecar hit the back corner of the stopped to turn car and then spun the rig around and the car on top the bike with the bike on the left side. My glasses scratched my nose and the R lens is scratched. Also the shield that was up at the time is scratched pretty bad. Had a Full Face flip up but wasn't able to trim the liner correctly to not press on my BTE hearing aides and hurt me. Will be trying again to find a flip up. FWIW in Grant Co WA the motor sheriff's have flip ups and I think the WSP motor officers do also, seems I read where a guy was stopped with the chin bar up and no glasses or shield and was cited. He prevailed in court with pictures of the M.O. riding with theirs up and no glasses either. They do have a shield however and that meets the intent of the WA law. I have seen the GCS motor officers run with theirs up also in hot weather, but with glasses and a shield. Had the proper jacket on but no gloves and birdy's nail got bent back pretty bad, also have a deep bruise on my left hip that is still a concern, but x-rays showed no signs of a fracture. Should have had the padded trousers on. Bet I won't straddle either bike again w/o gloves. Max

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rl153 Serious Thumper Offline S40 Just right! Posts: 900 Bloomfield,CT Gender:	Re: Helmets Reply #24 - 01/20/11 at 08:05:37 Do you think one of those $100 bell ff helmets would protect you ok or are those not good enough? I see them at Motorcycle superstore.I was reading some people think modular isn't as safe as standard ,I don't know .
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Re: Helmets
Reply #25 - 01/20/11 at 08:50:58

As long as they're DOT approved then they're fine. If you want to be extra sure you've got a good helmet look for the SNELL approval. Check out snell info here: http://www.smf.org/stds.html

DOT approval is all you need to be legal, but Snell is much more stringent with their testing, if a helmet has a Snell seal than your gauranteed to have an excellent helmet! Hope this helps!

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Helmets Reply #26 - 01/20/11 at 09:48:01 I've been wearing open face helmets for 40 years I have a full face I use when real cold But I think that the visibly to the side makes the open 3/4 a saver helmet.I have never crashed or went down.
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Re: Helmets
Reply #27 - 01/20/11 at 10:12:02

rl153 wrote on 01/20/11 at 08:05:37:

Do you think one of those $100 bell ff helmets would protect you ok or are those not good enough? I see them at Motorcycle superstore.I was reading some people think modular isn't as safe as standard ,I don't know .

I Slammed my face ibnto the cab corner & my flip face helmet saved my face. The latch did nopt fail during the crash & worked afterward.

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rl153 Serious Thumper Offline S40 Just right! Posts: 900 Bloomfield,CT Gender:	Re: Helmets Reply #28 - 01/20/11 at 12:18:18 Thats really something JOG . Does the modular or flip face jaw protector lock in place ,or does it slide up and down ?
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greenmonster Senior Member Offline Hellooooo Nurse! Posts: 420 Vancouver BC Gender:	Re: Helmets Reply #29 - 01/20/11 at 13:37:04 I find it interesting how many people are saying that their flip up FF saved their chin/face when mine says right no it that it does not provide chin protection. I guess that's just to cover their butts then?
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