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Reply #45 - 09/04/10 at 16:32:47

Not only do religions want your money and control you,If your Catholic you can go to confession and tell them what you did that was bad,Now people 2000 years ago might have believed that,But I don't think todays people would believe something like that.Kids today don't believe nonsense like that and don't go to church.Catholic don't believe in divorce but,but they can have it annulled,Even after 4 kids and 25 years of marriage.

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mick Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Hell-bound Posts: 7323 Dayton Oregon Gender:	Re: this one for believers,are there any left ? Reply #46 - 09/04/10 at 17:36:24 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/04/10 at 10:56:24: I know why I dismiss all other"gods". Simply because there is one & one only who created all, including us. And who created the creator ?
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Reply #47 - 09/04/10 at 18:06:48

Jive--FSO wrote on 09/03/10 at 14:14:44:

+1 Mick.

I'll say that I have been involved in the church a good part of my life (Baptist), but the older I got, the more things just didn't make sense to me. The more questions I asked, the more confused I became. Finally, I just realized the right path for me was to chose D) None of the above. Cool

The one question I had asked, that no one was able to answer was: What if I go to Heaven, yet for some reason my wife or son does not go. How am I supposed to live happily ever after knowing that they are in internal pain and suffering?

Jive

that's a good thought , Every year I live for July because I go to visit all my children and grand children,I can honestly say that is my favorite time of year.
So if I was good christian and went to heaven,I would be really pissed off if my kids didn't pass muster.
Religion is just so stupid.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28761 L.A. California Gender:	Re: this one for believers,are there any left ? Reply #48 - 09/04/10 at 20:16:27 mick wrote on 09/04/10 at 18:06:48: So if I was good christian and went to heaven,I would be really pissed off if my kids didn't pass muster. Religion is just so stupid. cheer up mick, those that don't rate heaven go back to hell.
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tcreeley Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 224	Re: this one for believers,are there any left ? Reply #49 - 09/04/10 at 20:29:19 Christianity, as so many other religions are, is about death. Jesus is a dying god. what a waste! :'(
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LostArtist Ex Member	Re: this one for believers,are there any left ? Reply #50 - 09/04/10 at 21:45:06 tcreeley wrote on 09/04/10 at 20:29:19: Christianity, as so many other religions are, is about death. Jesus is a dying god. what a waste! :'( what a weird misunderstanding. . . nevermind, not getting into this, not getting into this . . .
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Reply #51 - 09/04/10 at 22:55:35

LostArtist wrote on 09/04/10 at 21:45:06:

tcreeley wrote on 09/04/10 at 20:29:19:

Christianity, as so many other religions are, is about death. Jesus is a dying god.

what a waste! :'(

what a weird misunderstanding. . . nevermind, not getting into this, not getting into this . . .

That's what i was thinking too, JC is about rebirth. the church is about managing the flock, or fleecing as the case may be.

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Reply #52 - 09/04/10 at 23:35:19

mick wrote on 09/04/10 at 17:36:24:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/04/10 at 10:56:24:

I know why I dismiss all other"gods". Simply because there is one & one only who created all, including us.

And who created the creator ?

Asking the unanswerable question means you win? If I say I know 2+2=4, does it mean I Dont know that when you ask me a question I cant answer? How is what I know made null by asking a question I cant answer? Thats a sandbox grade level approach, Mick.

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Reply #53 - 09/05/10 at 04:48:06

mick wrote on 09/03/10 at 20:45:04:

I don't remember seeing he11 in the bible,or the Devil for that matter.
What say you Mike the Preacher ?

In the King James Verson of the Bible the following words are used this number of times. This does not count the times those things are spoken about or described.

Hell 54 times
Devil 57 times
Satan 50 times

Quoting "intellectuals" does not prove anything, there are as many quotes from other "intellectuals" that make the opposite point.

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Reply #54 - 09/05/10 at 05:27:11

Mick

You seem to have forgot the order of things :

Love order : 1 Lord your God
2 Wife and Family
3 Big Single Cylinder Motorcycles and the people who ride them.

Just remember which one comes first.

I saw a Man slowly die about a year ago. The last 36 hours or so he couldn't talk , had the look of shock on his person , it was like he had been given a glimmise of HELL and was in shock. All he could do was to Grunt and shy away from people.
I though I knew the look of Terror till I looked into his eyes those last few hour, then I realized I had no idea what terror was !

It was darn-right spookey. Like a see it to believe it thing !

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Reply #55 - 09/05/10 at 09:04:14

MMRanch wrote on 09/05/10 at 05:27:11:

Mick

You seem to have forgot the order of things :

Love order : 1 Lord your God
2 Wife and Family
3 Big Single Cylinder Motorcycles and the people who ride them.

Just remember which one comes first.

I saw a Man slowly die about a year ago. The last 36 hours or so he couldn't talk , had the look of shock on his person , it was like he had been given a glimmise of HELL and was in shock. All he could do was to Grunt and shy away from people.
I though I knew the look of Terror till I looked into his eyes those last few hour, then I realized I had no idea what terror was !

It was darn-right spookey. Like a see it to believe it thing !

Id be happy if you could expand on that.

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: this one for believers,are there any left ? Reply #56 - 09/05/10 at 09:12:47 He was given a glimpse of heaven and all he saw was hungry dinosaurs.
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Reply #57 - 09/05/10 at 09:40:54

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/04/10 at 23:35:19:

mick wrote on 09/04/10 at 17:36:24:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/04/10 at 10:56:24:

I know why I dismiss all other"gods". Simply because there is one & one only who created all, including us.

And who created the creator ?

Asking the unanswerable question means you win? If I say I know 2+2=4, does it mean I Dont know that when you ask me a question I cant answer? How is what I know made null by asking a question I cant answer? Thats a sandbox grade level approach, Mick.

didnt want you to think I didnt reply..

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Reply #58 - 09/05/10 at 11:05:08

MMRanch wrote on 09/05/10 at 05:27:11:

Mick

You seem to have forgot the order of things :

Love order : 1 Lord your God
2 Wife and Family
3 Big Single Cylinder Motorcycles and the people who ride them.

Just remember which one comes first.

I saw a Man slowly die about a year ago. The last 36 hours or so he couldn't talk , had the look of shock on his person , it was like he had been given a glimmise of HELL and was in shock. All he could do was to Grunt and shy away from people.
I though I knew the look of Terror till I looked into his eyes those last few hour, then I realized I had no idea what terror was !

It was darn-right spookey. Like a see it to believe it thing !

I too saw a man die very recently my Dad to be exact,
the day after fathers day.I had wheeled him out for a cigarette a few times that afternoon,finnally he said ,"Mick, it's time to go" I said ok thinking he just wanted to go in for dinner,he refused dinner and asked to go to bed.that is where I took him.
He said he had a nice time the day before seeing the whole family.
I sat on the bed with him,his eyes closed ,his monitor was steady,he said several times "Lets go" .................."Lets go", he never opened his eyes again as far as I know. I was not there when he just went to sleep,his nurse told me it was absolutly painless . he just went to an extended sleep.
My Dad being an atheist had no fear ,there is nothing to fear ,we all die ,some sooner than later,he did good ,lived until 95 .
One of my Dads favorite quotes was " I cannot believe in a god that want's to be praised all the time" talk about your ego maniac.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: this one for believers,are there any left ? Reply #59 - 09/05/10 at 11:12:23 I cannot believe in a god that want's to be praised all the time" Finally, something to actually think about. Ill be interested to see how other believers address this. Im gonna need some time to think about it.
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