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dasch Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1137	Re: Bypassing relays and diodes!!! Reply #15 - 09/23/11 at 11:30:42 Chopped
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wombat Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 109	Re: Bypassing relays and diodes!!! Reply #16 - 09/23/11 at 14:11:59 What does "Chopped" mean? dasch wrote on 09/23/11 at 11:30:42: Chopped
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28787 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Bypassing relays and diodes!!! Reply #17 - 09/23/11 at 16:43:56 If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Re: Bypassing relays and diodes!!!
Reply #18 - 09/23/11 at 18:11:21

wombat wrote on 09/23/11 at 08:04:59:

Please explain which wires/contacts you jumped or connected to make the sidestand relay and sidestand diode bypass work. I have a 2006 that is being converted to a Ryca kit and the sidestand switch is eliminated, so I'd like to get rid off any unneccesary parts as well.

Chopped wrote on 04/07/09 at 14:29:09:

Thanks for all the input guys... and safety tips. I have ridin bikes for a long time without all these safety relays. To me its just one more thing to break when I am on the road. I think I got this figured out on how to bypass the side stand diode and relay for the bike to run. I do hope that it doesn't cause any other issues with the wiring! Lets cross our fingers!

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Reply #19 - 09/23/11 at 19:09:00

From the diagrams it looks like the relay and diode are necessary to give you the either/or condition, that is, the starter switch is hot either if the bike is in neutral or the sidestand is down, but it does not require both.

If you want to disable only the sidestand switch, just ground the green wire and the bike will think the sidestand is always up.

If you want NEITHER the sidestand OR neutral protections, you can eliminate both the relay and diode by connecting the neutral switch blue wire (as shown in the diagram, no idea what the real colors are) to the blue/black wire that goes to the neutral indicator light. Then connect the orange wire from the ignition switch straight to the orange/black wire to the stop switch. Cut it somewhere past the branch to the neutral light so the light will still work. The green wire can then be eliminated along with the diode and relay.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28387 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Bypassing relays and diodes!!! Reply #20 - 09/23/11 at 19:30:30 Thanks Boule' ,... I'm gonna' save this page, for next time I'm foolin'round in the wiring... I think my diode was dead anyway, because my bike wouldn't even start in neutral with the kickstand down...
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dasch Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1137	Re: Bypassing relays and diodes!!! Reply #21 - 09/25/11 at 11:30:16 wombat wrote on 09/23/11 at 14:11:59: What does "Chopped" mean? dasch wrote on 09/23/11 at 11:30:42: Chopped Well... it simply means I congratulate the thinking of a forum member whose nickname happens to be "Chopped"! Wombat
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Reply #22 - 07/31/16 at 15:52:34

Side stand relay may be needed for powering secondary circuit(thin gray wire and thin brown wire)such as front brake light, instrument light, tail light, and license plate light. It may even have something with ignition circuit. Because, when ig. switch is off, orange wire and green wires are connected with 95 ohm resistance, and orange and orange/blk wire disconnected. But if you turn on ig switch(connect orange and orange/black wires in ig. switch which is part of ig. switch on,) then that 95 ohm become infinite and orange and orange/black wires in side stand relay get connected I noticed. So I won't remove side stand relay so easily. Besides, I sometimes notice that the wiring diagram is less than reliable which means that it's less than accurate in terms of wiring color and connections. So I would not have 100% total faith on the wiring diagram.

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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2629 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: Bypassing relays and diodes!!! Reply #23 - 08/01/16 at 05:44:49 This is a Zombie thread, and I usually would reply, but... Isaac, what the heck is a "front brake light"?
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: Bypassing relays and diodes!!! Reply #24 - 08/01/16 at 18:39:45 gary the one not under your foot (the front brake light switch)
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Reply #25 - 08/04/16 at 16:35:53

If you check front brake switch, it's usually connected(very little resistance), but since main circuit is not connected light's not turned on. But if you turn ig. switch on, those 2 wires gets disconnected and your front brake lever activates brake light. The side stand relay seem to play important role; this relay is doing those switching business including ignition circuit.

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