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gazab44 Senior Member 2004 No Login Offline TO OLD TO DIE YOUNG.... Posts: 416 uk Gender:	Re: What have I done? Reply #15 - 08/05/05 at 03:56:16 No I haven't done the white spacer thing. As I said though, it ran fine for a couple of miles with new jet and muffler. but now it will not run off idle with original jet and new muffler :'(
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Reply #16 - 08/05/05 at 04:39:19

gazab44 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08:

got no exhaust leaks

thottle not wide open now when it cuts out...just a little blip from idle.

I can't find the original message, but IIRC there is the washer thingy, the main jet, and a pilot jet -- each being critical at different throttle openings. By opening the exhaust you've created a starved condition on the intake. You increased the main jet, but IIRC the main jet only comes into play at 2/3rds to full throttle. Off idle to 1/3rd throttle is fed by the washer thickness and 1/3-2/3 throttle uses the pilot jet. Or something like that -- I know electro-mechanical, not fuel.

Sounds to me like you have adjusted the carb for wide open throttle but not off-idle to 2/3rd throttle. Which would explain why you are gasping for fuel with just a little blip off idle. I think you need to cork the exhaust until you swap out the pilot jet and shave the washer.

cavate: I have no idea what I'm talking about, I'm just mindless parroting what I've may have mistakenly remembered reading.

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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: What have I done? Reply #17 - 08/05/05 at 05:07:05 I did not read if you located the brass washer - with out this the needle jet tube will not stay in place - and it will do as you describe - did this once.
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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: What have I done? Reply #18 - 08/05/05 at 05:11:30 For the brass washer, see item #17. http://www.ronayers.com/fiche/300_0271/carburetor/carburetor.cfm?man=su&group...
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gazab44 Senior Member 2004 No Login Offline TO OLD TO DIE YOUNG.... Posts: 416 uk Gender:	Re: What have I done? Reply #19 - 08/05/05 at 05:32:33 Reelthing wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08: I did not read if you located the brass washer - with out this the needle jet tube will not stay in place - and it will do as you describe - did this once. have not got washer for either...
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gazab44 Senior Member 2004 No Login Offline TO OLD TO DIE YOUNG.... Posts: 416 uk Gender:	Re: What have I done? Reply #20 - 08/05/05 at 05:41:37 Savage_Rob wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08: For the brass washer, see item #17. http://www.ronayers.com/fiche/300_0271/carburetor/carburetor.cfm?man=su&group... I see the washer you mean......they do not ship outside usa....have to have a look round.
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: What have I done? Reply #21 - 08/05/05 at 05:43:07 Perhaps it fell out when you wasn't looking - no idea but it flat will not run correct with out it - unless your carb is designed different but so far as I know you have the same bs40 just jet'd down a bit
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: What have I done? Reply #22 - 08/05/05 at 05:49:07 gazab44 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08: I see the washer you mean......they do not ship outside usa....have to have a look round. Nothing special about it - other than being a bit thick - I'm on the road or I'd pull the bowl and mic it for you
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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: What have I done? Reply #23 - 08/05/05 at 05:54:18 gazab44 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08: I see the washer you mean......they do not ship outside usa....have to have a look round. Hopefully you'll find the original. If not, you should be able to get it through a dealer. BikeBandit.com also has the fiche listings.
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gazab44 Senior Member 2004 No Login Offline TO OLD TO DIE YOUNG.... Posts: 416 uk Gender:	Re: What have I done? Reply #24 - 08/05/05 at 07:52:46 Looked, can't find it :'( i'll have to try and get one
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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: What have I done? Reply #25 - 08/05/05 at 08:27:16 If for some reason you are not able to get one sent to England, I'll get one to you.
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gazab44 Senior Member 2004 No Login Offline TO OLD TO DIE YOUNG.... Posts: 416 uk Gender:	Re: What have I done? Reply #26 - 08/05/05 at 09:06:56 thankyou savage-rob..much appreciated..i'll try and then let you know.. I think I need to get it before continuing...
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gazab44 Senior Member 2004 No Login Offline TO OLD TO DIE YOUNG.... Posts: 416 uk Gender:	Re: What have I done? Reply #27 - 08/05/05 at 11:10:26 when i get a main jet washer would it be advisable to take top off carb to check that i haven't disturbed the needle jet tube..and also should i change the pilot jet or wait and see..and should i do the white spacer
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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: What have I done? Reply #28 - 08/05/05 at 12:05:17 I would suggest doing the white spacer mod. To do that, you'll need to open the top. However, for just adding the washer, I think you just remove your main jet, slip the washer/spacer on it and reinstall it. Also, maybe I missed it... What year model is your bike?
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gazab44 Senior Member 2004 No Login Offline TO OLD TO DIE YOUNG.... Posts: 416 uk Gender:	Re: What have I done? Reply #29 - 08/05/05 at 12:18:26 its a 96
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