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Reply #30 - 02/15/24 at 08:19:58
 
I personally don't accept random Twitter posts from humans with zero association to be a credible source - since any of the billions of humans on social media can make the claim with impunity.  

I believe I said, perhaps the initial reports were wrong, but I will wait a little longer to find out what the truth is. Say what you want about Twitter but, it is more right than wrong plenty of times, so let’s slow down on the “ I don’t accept random Twitter post”. Every hectic event is followed by a period of reporting that turns out to be corrected later.
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Reply #31 - 02/15/24 at 08:27:38
 
Serowbot wrote on 02/15/24 at 07:43:12:
WebsterMark wrote on 02/14/24 at 18:25:22:
Yes, freedom…..

Freedom to shoot massive amounts of innocent people.

In what world is that a plus?   Huh


Of course, no one has freedom to shoot innocent people. That’s a ridiculous statement.

This story will quickly get dropped or people like you will turn it into a gun control freak out when it already seems obvious, (sorry Eegore, but I’m using unsubstantiated Twitter reports because Official reports are not out yet, and I suspect because they’re conflicted with how they’re going to report on the suspects), but from people who were there, these were essentially gangbangers firing at one another.

Just exactly what law is going to stop that? Tell me. Your ridiculous liberal ideology says if you just pass a law, problems will be solved but all that will happen is legal and responsible gun owners will follow the rules while gangbangers still walk around shooting each other.

then what are you gonna do? You’ll demand another lol.

The reality is, and this is especially true since I live in one of these large cities, the African-American population in large cities is responsible for the vast, vast majority of murders. You just don’t want to address that because it opens up the Pandora’s box of how your ridiculous liberal ideology has destroyed the black community.
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Reply #32 - 02/15/24 at 08:47:36
 
I believe I said, perhaps the initial reports were wrong, but I will wait a little longer to find out what the truth is. Say what you want about Twitter but, it is more right than wrong plenty of times, so let’s slow down on the “ I don’t accept random Twitter post”. Every hectic event is followed by a period of reporting that turns out to be corrected later.


 Fair enough.  I believe I said with zero association.  It's not like I just read a few articles and decided, I had thousands of posts read, traced and verified.  I had two teams and AI read every single post we could find, over 3000, from every known family member going back to 2009.  I personally read through her conservator paperwork filed by multiple family members and all of her responses.  Not one mention of trans activity of any kind.  

 We looked through every criminal report we could find, not one mention of trans.  A schizophrenic using a male alias is not by my assessment a declaration of being trans.  The shooter has always claimed to be female and so has every official record and family posting that we could find.

 The claim that this shooter is trans came from a human that had zero contact with the shooter and has claimed multiple shooters in multiple crimes are trans.

 If I had Twitter posting from a connected source like family, friends, victims, a clinic etc. that had any indication of trans claims, then sure Twitter would be a reliable source.

 Some random human with zero connection = not a reliable source.

 Why would you accept a Twitter post from a human that never knew the shooter in any way as a reliable source?  
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Reply #33 - 02/15/24 at 08:51:51
 
(sorry Eegore, but I’m using unsubstantiated Twitter reports because Official reports are not out yet, and I suspect because they’re conflicted with how they’re going to report on the suspects),

 Are you using Twitter posts from people that live in another state that were never there and have never known in any way the shooters?  Like a human in Florida that makes these statements regularly just because they can?

 Or are they from people that were connected to the event, like people who knew the shooters or were actually there?

 If you are using Twitter posts from random humans with zero connection, that would be equal to using Twitter posts claiming the Lakewood shooter is trans.  

 Again that doesn't mean the Lakewood shooter is not trans.  It just means the source is a human who made the statement with zero credibility.
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Reply #34 - 02/15/24 at 09:04:27
 
Eegore wrote on 02/15/24 at 08:51:51:
"...  from people that live in another state that were never there ..."


Kinna like all the reporters, 'reporting', on the recent Kansas shooting ?

Best I can read about, 3 people in custody.

WOW, what if, they were ILEA-GELS ???


LOLOLOOOLOOLOL


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Reply #35 - 02/15/24 at 10:09:18
 
This is going to be interesting.

From the most Liberal, Gun hating, 'news' reporters. Chicken Noodle News.

"...  The shooting appears to have been a “dispute between several people that ended in gunfire,” Graves said, noting there is no indication of a “nexus to terrorism or homegrown violent extremism.” On Wednesday, Graves said three people had been detained and an unspecified number of guns recovered by law enforcement.

Several law enforcement officials similarly told CNN the shooting was believed to have been the result of a personal dispute in the area, and not an attack on the celebration itself.

One of those officials said the three people in custody are all believed to have been involved in the dispute and that, initially, 10 people were questioned. The status of the other seven who were questioned is unclear. ..."



Sound like, Gang Banger Related ?

Will See.
The Gov said it was, 'Thugs'.
And the response was,
  ''...More Gun Laws..."
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Reply #36 - 02/15/24 at 10:10:54
 

Kinna like all the reporters, 'reporting', on the recent Kansas shooting ?


 Only if the reporters are taking statements from humans that were never there claiming the information is from witnesses that have first hand accurate information.  

 Reporters by definition report, but do not require personal attendance of events in order to do so.  They should take witness statements from people that were witness, instead of witness statements from humans that were never there but instead claiming they have accurate information when they could not possibly have any at all.
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Reply #37 - 02/15/24 at 10:35:32
 
95% of people guessed correctly what had happened at the parade immediately. Was there a chance it was something other than it was? Sure, there was a chance. Small but a chance.

There is a concert here in town in St. Louis a couple days ago in a 61-year-old woman from Chicago with her 21 year old daughter or run over and killed by a man speeding down the street in downtown St. Louis.

Once again, everyone who lives here could have guessed exactly what happened and of course we were correct.

The people in power are either in complete denial or they’re aware that if they try to have an honest conversation, they’re toast.

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Reply #38 - 02/15/24 at 10:45:42
 
95% of people guessed correctly what had happened at the parade immediately. Was there a chance it was something other than it was? Sure, there was a chance. Small but a chance.

 Ok great.  Those, to me, are guesses, not credible sources.  

 If a man in Florida claimed on Twitter that the 3 shooters were trans, would that be a reliable source?  Or would that be a random guy in FL making a guess? (in this case a "guess' he makes all the time btw)

 When I say I do not use random statements on Twitter as a credible source, it is because anyone can make guesses online.  Guesses aren't credible sources, I won't go around thinking a human is probably trans because one guy in another State said so and "the media" repeated it.  He's not a credible source.  

 People that "live there" are more credible because they are connected to the event.
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Reply #39 - 02/15/24 at 12:12:17
 
I just don't see how the why of a shooting changes anything
Do the bereaved or maimed say... "Oh, well... that makes it okay then"?
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Reply #40 - 02/15/24 at 15:41:41
 
Eegore wrote on 02/15/24 at 10:45:42:
95% of people guessed correctly what had happened at the parade immediately. Was there a chance it was something other than it was? Sure, there was a chance. Small but a chance.

 Ok great.  Those, to me, are guesses, not credible sources.  

 If a man in Florida claimed on Twitter that the 3 shooters were trans, would that be a reliable source?  Or would that be a random guy in FL making a guess? (in this case a "guess' he makes all the time btw)

 When I say I do not use random statements on Twitter as a credible source, it is because anyone can make guesses online.  Guesses aren't credible sources, I won't go around thinking a human is probably trans because one guy in another State said so and "the media" repeated it.  He's not a credible source.  

 People that "live there" are more credible because they are connected to the event.


Whatever but 95% of the people knew exactly what happened. Pretty credible guessing. I think I’ve read that, and who wants to be a millionaire, polling the audience was the most accurate of the three helps.
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Reply #41 - 02/15/24 at 15:50:01
 
Serowbot wrote on 02/15/24 at 12:12:17:
I just don't see how the why of a shooting changes anything
Do the bereaved or maimed say... "Oh, well... that makes it okay then"?


Seriously? You don’t see WHY a shooting occurred changes or matters?

So we treat car accidents exactly the same as drunk driving accidents? “Oh well, accidents happen what are you gonna do…..”

If the vast vast majority of all shootings and murders occur in a clearly defined area and demographic, you’re telling me that doesn’t matter?

I’m willing to bet within 2 miles of me, there are 1000 guns in houses. I’m also willing to bet absolutely none of them have ever been used in a commission of a crime.

So you’re telling me you want to enact a policy that targets both areas exactly the same and you honestly expect to see change?

This is what I mean. You’re afraid to just admit reality. Just say it. The vast majority of all violent gun crimes occur in a narrowly defined demographic. Why don’t you leftist want to admit that? What is it that prevents you from speaking the truth.
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Reply #42 - 02/16/24 at 06:19:22
 
Whatever but 95% of the people knew exactly what happened. Pretty credible guessing. I think I’ve read that, and who wants to be a millionaire, polling the audience was the most accurate of the three helps.

 I'd agree here, with the exception of calling guessing "credible" when the guess comes from a human with absolutely no knowledge of the event, and always guesses the same way.  That's called bias, not educated guessing.

 You bring up a good point so I brought in another company to assist with researching Twitter and Facebook posts.  A preliminary evaluation on Twitter posts specific to gender reference regarding the Lakewood shooter trends towards 92.432% believing the shooter is not trans.  Most people would guess a human female with a child shooting in a church is not a trans human.  That's what the data I have says anyway.  Yours may be different, I will look at it if you can provide reference.

 A third branch that specializes in website comments sections has similar but not verified results.  They have a 94% "not trans" assessment at this time.

 Would the Lakewood shooter be an exception to the guessing method?  Or is this a case where the guessing is wrong and the one guy who never knew the shooter, that claimed she was trans, is more correct than the larger majority?

 This one post can be tracked forward and the amplification, can literally be seen.  Websites simply copied, didn't "guess" just copied the trans claim and of course social media spread it because all you have to do is hit one button to do it.

 So, if most humans are guessing the Lakewood shooter is not trans, research shows she is not trans, her family, friends, criminal and medical records show she is not trans, but one guy in Florida says she is - should we go with that one guy because websites, politicians and followers copied his post?  If so, why?  He's in the minority by far.
 
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Reply #43 - 02/16/24 at 06:21:57
 
A shooting by a gang of thugs.
Will never be as powerful as a school, theater, church, etc, shooting.

All over this Nation the Gang, Thugs, Drive by, Turf war, etc shootings.
Which deaths and injuries, occur  far, Far, FAR more than School (etc) Deaths and injuries.
Will be, ignored, and if connected to something else, greatly downplayed.
The UL Media, and the DFI, WOKE, Fairy Dust Sprinklers will see to that.
 
    Because, very few care.

Very few care when Thugs & Gang Bangers get killed.
  NONE of the FDS WOKE DFI’s call for
     ENFORCING CURRENT LAWS

But little Jonnie or Janie School (etc)  shooting,
           OMG, The Sky Is Falling !!!!!!!
   The UL Socialists Jump on the bandwagon
          Ban Guns and Remove Freedom.
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Reply #44 - 02/16/24 at 07:22:32
 
MnSpring wrote on 02/16/24 at 06:21:57:
Very few care when Thugs & Gang Bangers get killed.
  NONE of the FDS WOKE DFI’s call for
     ENFORCING CURRENT LAWS

But little Jonnie or Janie School (etc)  shooting,
           OMG, The Sky Is Falling !!!!!!!
   The UL Socialists Jump on the bandwagon
          Ban Guns and Remove Freedom.

Does Mn know he's arguing my point?
I don't think so
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