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Reply #30 - 02/08/24 at 05:04:17
 
Trump said build a wall BECAUSE it was Gospel to begin with, not the other way around.

Fine, in those long stretches of nothingness, you probably don’t need a wall…. until you keep funneling the illegals further into those barren areas because that’s the only path left. Actually, more correct would be to say those criminals who are paid a ransom to let illegals pass through the territory before the border will have to start funneling them further and further away.

Take the billions we’re giving Ukraine and use that.
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Reply #31 - 02/08/24 at 05:19:49
 
The majority of the 458 miles constructed during the Trump administration were in places where some kind of barrier already existed.  Less than 100 miles of actual new wall was constructed.  With all the modern technology we have, the total length of the border for just Texas is about 1950 miles.  They can’t get an exact number because the Rio Grande turns and meanders wildly.  Most of the miles where a wall hasn’t been constructed is because it’s private land.  Apparently eminent domain laws come into play and/or Texas ranchers would prefer to just put up no trespassing signs and handle the problem themselves (like year round dear season or wild hog season).

It seems like a ton of wasted money to me.  With $15 billion appropriated from the defense budget, we got less than 100 miles of actual new wall.  And there is virtually no improvement in solving the problem.  That said, Biden halting construction with an executive order was pure spiteful politics and had nothing to do with any analytics or new plan.

As long as government keeps up the petty partisan fighting within itself, we really don’t need an enemy from abroad to destroy us.  The enemy within is our own worst enemy.
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Reply #32 - 02/08/24 at 05:27:07
 
Hard to argue against the fact that Trump failed to deliver on his wall promise.

But in a country where we have multilane interstates from one end of the country to the other end, east to west and north to south, it’s not impossible to build a wall across the border. It’s not.
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Reply #33 - 02/08/24 at 05:52:10
 
WebsterMark wrote on 02/08/24 at 05:27:07:
Hard to argue against the fact that Trump failed to deliver on his wall promise.

But in a country where we have multilane interstates from one end of the country to the other end, east to west and north to south, it’s not impossible to build a wall across the border. It’s not.


Nobody is saying it’s not possible.  It is extremely expensive and proving to be less than effective.  We have areas with no wall, but migrants are still entering where a wall exists.  They could take a path where there is no wall, but why bother….. it’s probably more challenging and fun to say they entered over, under, and through the big bad wall.
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Reply #34 - 02/08/24 at 07:16:51
 
A Wall, expensive.
Drones/electronic surveillance, expensive.
    (Yet BOTH together are still LESS than the cost of caring for, transporting, feeding, giving out blankets, cell phones, hearings, hiring more people/equipment to deal with the flood, etc. etc. etc.)

Cheep, effective, 'T' posts with a single strand of wire, with signs on them in Spanish, Chinese, Arabic, saying:
  '"Do Not Cross"

Then let US Citizens, guard the border,
 (which their will be MORE than enough)
The private land could be rented out, providing revenue.
And the Federal land rented via a 'draw' permit, providing revenue.

Sure, their will still be, lying steeling thief's getting in,
(Like Ilhan Abdullahi Omar)
But their will be Less, ILLEGALS, that want to Turn the USA into the Shit Hole they came from. And Less DRUGS.

And the Legal Emigrants that WANT to be US Citizens will be Welcome !







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Reply #35 - 02/08/24 at 07:30:46
 
Show me a 50ft wall and I'll show you a 51ft ladder
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Reply #36 - 02/08/24 at 09:11:32
 
Serowbot wrote on 02/08/24 at 07:30:46:
Show me a 50ft wall and I'll show you a 51ft ladder


You need to allow for lean....make it a 60' ladder!   Roll Eyes
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Reply #37 - 02/08/24 at 10:23:16
 
Serowbot wrote on 02/08/24 at 07:30:46:
Show me a 50ft wall and I'll show you a 51ft ladder

Show me a 51 foot ladder and I’ll show you an off a lot of people waiting to climb up and while they’re waiting, authorities can show up and push the ladder down.
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Reply #38 - 02/08/24 at 10:23:27
 
"...At least 41 people have been arrested at the Roosevelt Hotel since the city turned the former swanky Prohibition-era hotel into a migrant shelter ..."

GIVE, ILLEGALS, free, healthcare, food, housing, transportation, etc, etc, etc,

Ah, but not to worry !!!
The UL FDS WOKE Socialists,
   have got it covered !

Just part of the new normal.


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Reply #39 - 02/08/24 at 10:26:12
 
A wall is not the be-all and end-all. It works in the right areas and we don’t have enough of it in the areas where we need it. But as everyone says, much of this illegal immigration can be stop with the stroke of a pen. Simply state the border is close to asylum-seekers until some point in the future.

Force local authorities and prosecuting attorneys to turn over illegal immigrants arrested for other offenses to ICE and deport them back to their country of origin. Do that for a while in a message will get across the US is closed for business.

I know the Democratic Party and power desperately wants new voters but we’ve got to stop this.
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Reply #40 - 02/10/24 at 07:18:04
 
ALL, the pieces, put together from several reports.

(Just amazing on how many of the UL, TOLD WHAT TO DO ,’news’, outlets tried their best to sanitize)



“… three teenage boys -- two aged 15 and another 16 -- entered JD Sports, a clothing and sneaker store, … and started stealing merchandise …  female security guard …  took back the stolen property … one teen -- a 15-year-old --  fired a .45-caliber handgun toward the security guard but instead shot a 38-year-old woman. …


They are Illegal , Catch and release, from Venezuela, thugs. who just were, RELEASED in NOV.

(Golly Gee Wally, how in the world, did one get a GUN, in NY, where a HONEST, CITIZEN, has to jump through hoop after hoop,  PAY a HUGE fee, just to defend themselves ?)

Never mind,
    just the, NEW NORMAL,
         says the UL, DFI, Democrats !!!

Come from a SHIT  HOLE,
Then turn the place you come to ,
       into a SHIT HOLE.


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Reply #41 - 02/10/24 at 09:43:20
 
WebsterMark wrote on 02/08/24 at 10:26:12:
I know the Democratic Party and power desperately wants new voters but we’ve got to stop this.

I know the Republican Party Trump Party desperately wants the issue more than any solution and are willing to do absolutely nothing for at least a year except whine

If you are not complaining to your Republican Representatives about their grandstanding... you should STFU
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Reply #42 - 02/10/24 at 10:37:42
 
Serowbot wrote on 02/10/24 at 09:43:20:
"...  ... you should STFU "


So 3 + YEARS of PUDDEN HEAD, doing absolutely NOTHING,
 (Well, doing, what he was TOLD to)

 is someone else's fault ????????



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Reply #43 - 02/10/24 at 11:17:14
 
Serowbot wrote on 02/10/24 at 09:43:20:
WebsterMark wrote on 02/08/24 at 10:26:12:
I know the Democratic Party and power desperately wants new voters but we’ve got to stop this.

I know the Republican Party Trump Party desperately wants the issue more than any solution and are willing to do absolutely nothing for at least a year except whine

If you are not complaining to your Republican Representatives about their grandstanding... you should STFU


Yea, I heard the talking points from MSNBC too. Good job repeating them.
But as usual, there’s a flaw in your thinking.

The proposal you are saying Republicans are refusing to endorse which therefore proves they want the issue and not a solution, is not a solution. As I said before, on what planet is allowing 5000 illegals a day to break into the country and steal resources a solution? It’s not. It’s a BS plan that solves nothing except giving the Democratic media talking points that people like you repeat.

I will do the opposite of STFU, I’ve told my representatives to fight against the Democratic Party get out the vote program.
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Reply #44 - 02/10/24 at 11:32:35
 
What the UL, DFI, FDS Socialists, that call themselves democrats, do, and wish to do MORE of, on the border issue.

“… Under current immigration law, someone who tries to illegally enter the U.S. can be quickly removed without going to immigration court unless that person signals “an intention to apply for asylum ..,.”
“…, when people don’t seek asylum “we don’t just ‘turn them back …,”
“…  border officials take migrants into custody and try to find them in U.S. databases …”
“… check their background checks to identify any threats and then try to deport them …”
“ … Mexico doesn’t agree to receive people from other countries…”

( Even though they came from their)
“… limited resources — not enough border officials, detention space or immigration judges — results in some people being released into the U.S. to determine later whether they can stay ..,:

Where the Republicans,
Would, ‘DO”, not just ’TRY’.

Wellll,  it’s just the result of getting a TROPHY, for doing NOTHING.

  It’s the NEW Normal.
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