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Message started by MnSpring on 02/01/24 at 07:26:57

Title: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/01/24 at 07:26:57

It’s Bash-A-Cop Week ...

“… A gaggle of New York’s newest made that clear over the weekend: The so-called asylum-seekers — all from Venezuela — battered two cops in Times Square Saturday; four were arrested, processed and cut loose without bail …”

“… A fifth was in custody Wednesday afternoon and police said three more were in the wind …”

“… A U.S. Border Patrol agent was attacked by suspected human smugglers in Arizona while arresting illegal immigrants … … The incident occurred near San Luis, Arizona, and the agent sustained injuries …”

“… Attacks on border agents have increased recently, with two Mexican citizens pleading guilty to assaulting an agent last summer and another agent being attacked in Texas in September …”

                And the Gilbert Goons !

“… it’s the new normal …”

A-Yep, the OLD Normal used to be, PUNISH wrong doing !

  But
Never-mind,
the Ultra Liberal, Progressive DFI, FDS, Socialists have got it covered !


Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by thumperclone on 02/01/24 at 08:51:51



  But
Never-mind,
the Ultra Liberal, Progressive DFI, FDS, Socialists have got it covered !

BORING B.S.^

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by Serowbot on 02/01/24 at 09:00:16

Biden has an immigration bill that could go a long way to fixing the problem,... but let's hold off on that 'till after the election so we can beat Biden over the head with it.

Immigration is more important as a political issue than an actual problem
It's urgent... but I guess not that urgent.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/01/24 at 11:25:44


6C7A6D70687D706B1F0 wrote:
Biden has an immigration bill that could go a long way to fixing the problem,...


What is it ?
And why has he waited 3 years ?
And if he wins the election,
will, his bill, be forgot about ?

Last week driving from Ajo to Phoenix, I passed 5 NEW extended, window, Passenger vans.
(Just N of the Gila Bend's airport where the road changes to 2 lanes)
The Driver was wearing OD green, the Passengers were short, had black hair, and seemed to be crowded.

Wonder who were those 60 (+/-) people,
and were were they going ?







Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by thumperclone on 02/01/24 at 11:31:02


obama made a deal with the bubs he held up his end and the backed out saying what they agreed to wasn't enough..
obama said they didn't know what they wanted and mentioned a moat full of alligators
the border "crisis" is  a bublican created fiasco
looks like they're still playing games

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by Serowbot on 02/01/24 at 14:06:55


6B487556544F4841260 wrote:
[quote author=6C7A6D70687D706B1F0 link=1706801217/0#2 date=1706806816]Biden has an immigration bill that could go a long way to fixing the problem,...


What is it ?
And why has he waited 3 years ?
[/quote]
So,.. why not wait one more?

Pub's want the issue not the solution

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/02/24 at 14:34:05

"...To date, America has conducted responsive attacks — mostly pinprick strikes — at a rate of one for every 16.5 ..."

"...Then came an Iran-backed Iraqi militia’s strike on the Tower 22 military outposts in Jordan, killing three American soldiers and wounding more than three dozen more..."

"...Despite the outcry that dead Americans are a red line requiring Biden to retaliate with real force, the administration’s response was telling..."


 But
Never-mind,
the Ultra Liberal, Progressive DFI, FDS, Socialists have got it covered !

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by Serowbot on 02/02/24 at 15:12:04

I'm glad to have a man in charge that doesn't believe he's smarter than the Generals and will listen to experts.
...and doesn't think he's a genius because he passed a mental cognition test

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by LANCER on 02/02/24 at 19:34:32

I don’t believe he is capable of a complete rational statement.  

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by thumperclone on 02/03/24 at 04:46:45


515C535E584F0F0A3D0 wrote:
I don’t believe he is capable of a complete rational statement.  



STILL better than the alternative!

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by Serowbot on 02/03/24 at 07:27:42

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgwr9r36zIU[/media]

Title: Re: Crumbley
Post by MnSpring on 02/05/24 at 08:36:59

If a rotten Apple falls from a tree.
Will it become normal,
To  cut down  the Tree ?

Reminds me of long time ago.
If one was suspected of being a Witch, they were thrown in a pond.
If they floated, they were a Witch, (then burned at the stake).
If they sank, they were not a Witch.



Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by Serowbot on 02/05/24 at 15:04:07

I don't know how that can remind anyone of anything  :-?

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by oldNslow on 02/05/24 at 17:11:12

"Biden has an immigration bill that could go a long way to fixing the problem,..."

Might want to take a look at the Senate version of that bill.

IMO it's going to make things a whole lot worse.

Might even lead one to suspect that that's exactly what it's intended to do.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by WebsterMark on 02/06/24 at 05:20:11

On what planet is it a “reform bill” when it allows up to 5,000 people a day to cross the southern border with no evidence of their ability to be productive additions to America? An actual leader, after witnessing the debacle in New York with the assault on the cop, would’ve immediately closed the border. And it’s not just the criminal activity by those scums, but it’s the behavior of the New York judges, and their political system. Sure, I’ve heard this morning they’ve been captured in Arizona but how ridiculous was it that they walked away flipping off the bird. That’s embarrassing. And how many instances like that have happened against citizens not captured on camera?

I know lefties like the point to immigration from the past and the Statue of Liberty but remember potential immigrants had to prove their ability to support themselves or they were never allowed on the boats to begin with and some were sent back once they got here. We’re not doing that. All we do is say sure, come across and will send you off to some city and you can drain their resources.

This is a ridiculous bill and put together by 1) people who have never ever faced consequences from mass immigration and 2) continues the plan to allow these people to vote in federal elections, guaranteeing a Democratic Party majority.

That’s all this is, a Democratic Party get out the vote program. That’s all. It’s nothing else. If illegals were coming across the border, wearing Maga hats and red shirts, Democrats would build a wall bigger than what’s around the mansions they live in.

There are very few serious people in power and obviously that includes Puddinhead Biden, but Trump as well. And Nikki Haley supports this? Another waste of time.

I still hold out hope that a convention miracle brings DeSantis back into the mix.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/06/24 at 08:21:08


794B4C5D5A4B5C634F5C452E0 wrote:
"On what planet is it a “reform bill” when it allows up to 5,000 people a day to cross the southern border with no evidence of their ability to be productive additions to America? ..."


From Political:
“… ‘Border shutdown’
The bill would force the Department of Homeland Security to shutter the border if daily illegal crossings top 5,000 migrants on average or 8,500 in a single day. Unaccompanied minors from countries other than Mexico and Canada wouldn’t count toward that total. …”

                  Sounds like 3,500 MORE, than 5,000

Even. CNN said
“…strong majority of the public – 63% now compared with 55% in September – said the Biden administration should be tougher on immigrants crossing at the border. More than two-thirds, 68%, said they disapproved of Biden’s handling of the border…”

NPR said, Biden said:
“…if you're trying to leave Cuba, Nicaragua or Haiti, you have a — and we — or have agreed to begin a journey to America, do not — do not just show up at the border," Biden said. "Stay where you are and apply legally from there.”…”

ANY TV Cameras in the room when Puden Head announced his bill, which as of yet does not exist.
Because all the Quotes of what he said are full of.
“…  So, they — if they — if they — we’re making the program available …”
“… personnel, another — asylum officers and personnel — and 100 new immigration judges …”
“… pathway they pro- — they process — they process them to require …”
“… Title 42 to deal with — to deal with the pandemic, a rapidly — to rapidly expel people who crossed the border …”
“… It was a — designed to …”

That, ‘OFFICIAL’,  written piece, is FULL of the above.
AND: “… I don’t like Title 42. But it’s the law now, and I have to operate within it. …”
   A-Yep, Mush For Brains has got it covered !
https://cl.usembassy.gov/remarks-by-president-biden-on-border-security-and-enforcement/

“… Chinese migrants are the fastest growing group trying to cross into the U.S. from Mexico. Last year, U.S. Customs and Border Protection reported 37,000 Chinese citizens were apprehended as they illegally crossed the border; that's 50 times more than two years earlier. …”

“… Last year, U.S. Customs and Border Protection recorded two-and-a-half million instances of detaining or turning away people attempting to cross into the United states from Mexico …”


“… A 4-foot gap at the end of a border fence 60 miles east of San Diego. Smugglers in SUVs race along the border fence and drop migrants off near the gap. Over four days, "60 Minutes" witnessed nearly 600 migrants — adults and children — pass through the gap and onto U.S. soil, unchecked. …”
 
        North US Border.  The Longest boarder in the world.

“… The number of migrants crossing the border from Canada into the U.S. is rising — in one sector by more than 700% — as more Mexicans desperate to get into the U.S. fly to Canada  …”

“… Mexicans are by far the leading nationality crossing into the U.S. in the Swanton Sector, followed by Haitians and Guatemalans, according to CBP data. …”

“… Much like migrants seeking to cross the southern border, organized criminal organizations play a role in smuggling migrants into Canada as well.  …”

“… lead patrol agent at the Champlain Border Station which is part of the Swanton sector, an area that covers 295 miles along the border. He says in 2023, border patrol agents apprehended roughly 7,000 people, a nearly 500% annual increase. …”

“… the increase in illegal crossings makes it more difficult for law enforcement to find people who are actually crossing for nefarious reasons.
“There still are a lot of bad actors mixed in with them. We still see aggravated felons, we still catch a lot of bad people,”  …”
“… one reason for the increased number of crossings is the amount of attention the southern border is receiving. …”
“… People of Mexican origin are the largest demographic the Swanton border patrol encounters….”


            Do these people have passports ?

So Mush For Brains, 'plan' is to allow ILLEGAL'S to reside in this Nation, and use the Tax Dollars, they will NEVER Pay !

5,000 a day,
35,000 a week,
150,000 a month,
1,825,000 A Year.

PLUS, how many NON Paying ILLEGALS already here.

Wonder if that is another reason to the sudden rise in the cost of things ?










Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by thumperclone on 02/06/24 at 08:45:34

yeah it's Bidens fault the bubs got EVERYTHING they asked for in the new bill but won't pass it the circus clowns need something to blame on potus
the economy is up unemployment is down the stock market is thriving inflation is stable.. yeah it's Bidens fault the bub clowns are running the circus

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/06/24 at 09:34:55

I am Prejudice !

Don’t care, what color one’s Skin is, their Religion, their Heritage, their Sex/Preference.
Don’t care if they come into this Nation, LEGALLY, because they WANT to be a part of this great Nation.

DO CARE, if they are Crooked, Liars, Thief’s, Murderers, Molesters, and, lovers of a Brain Dead PUPPET, who does everything the UL Woke DFI’s say to do.

As well as the, Fairy Dust Sprinklers,  who actually believe putting several  MILLIONS of ILLEGALS into this Nation, (who will never contribute one cent, only take) will benefit this Nation.



Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/06/24 at 10:42:20

"... Since October, Scottsdale has experienced 22 burglaries of this nature, with the latest incident occurring on Jan. 24.

According to Scottsdale police, crime tourists have been carrying out their operations in the United States, presenting an ongoing decadelong issue seen in cities such as New York and Los Angeles.

While only a few of the cases in Scottsdale have resulted in arrests, those that did saw the police department providing evidence that establishes a regional connection to South American theft groups. ..."


https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/scottsdale-breaking/2024/02/03/south-american-organized-crime-targeting-arizona-homes-police-say/72424318007/


Not to worry,
The POTUS and the Gov of AZ have it all under control !

It's just the new normal.









Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/06/24 at 11:34:51

From CNN  —

"...,President Joe Biden on Thursday announced he is expanding a program to accept up to 30,000 migrants per month from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela –  ..."

Of course, it's the 'New Way' !

"... The United States
has the highest percentage
of illegal immigrants by country,
according to most reports.  ..."




Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/06/24 at 13:44:06

Ilhan Omar said:

“…The US government will do what we Somalians in the U.S. tell them to do.
They will do what we want and nothing else….”


“… tells Somalians that she is Somalian first, Muslim second …”

         [no, American wasn’t even mentioned].

The accuracy of the translation was confirmed by a Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs from Somaliland.

Yet the Gov,
(two time graduate of the Wellstone progressive socialist school)
      has got it covered !!!!!!




Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by ThumperPaul on 02/07/24 at 06:19:11

I don’t get it.  Is it just me…. How is 5,000 ILLEGAL immigrants tolerable and acceptable?  Is it the “new normal” that smaller amounts of illegalality is acceptable?  There needs to be zero tolerance for illegal border crossing - period.  There is a legal path that must be adhered to.  This may sound inhumane to some, but let them stack up at the Mexican border and let Mexico deal with it.  With most of the migrants now coming from countries south of Mexico, Mexico should be securing its southern border.  Mexico will stop being a conduit if we secure our border and let them fill up their country if they won’t plug their southern border.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/07/24 at 11:11:14

“… How is 5,000 ILLEGAL immigrants tolerable and acceptable? …”
      (Every DAY)

I Remember a time,
When a POTUS
Was in the process of building a Wall.
And a bunch of
UL, Progressive FDS, WOKE Socialists,
Jumped up and down !!!!!!

And they STILL think it is correct !


Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by ThumperPaul on 02/07/24 at 12:13:35

I wish a wall was the answer, but it’s not.  It helps, but it’s not enough in and of itself.  There needs to be a big deterrent - like a harsh penalty (up to including death) for attempting to enter illegally.  That may sound harsh, but there is a legal path that must be followed.  It not, and you chose illegal entry, you are risking your life based on your poor choice.

Pew Research keeps some good unbiased stats based on credible resources, and Trump did worse at removing illegals than Obama during his first two years.  His numbers improved a bit in his last 2 years.  This really shouldn’t be a political issue.  And it’s nonsense that Democrats want more illegals so they can fill up the ballot box (that’s pure propaganda pumped out by certain media like Fox News).  Journalism for the non-thinking.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by Eegore on 02/07/24 at 13:30:59


I don’t get it.  Is it just me…. How is 5,000 ILLEGAL immigrants tolerable and acceptable?

 Lack of applicable alternatives.  Mass executions at the border would surely lead to regional unrest.  

 Redirection is plausible, but still messy.  

 A full physical wall is a waste of money.  There is a reason walls are still built to keep people IN, and not out.  Modern technology would be a better use.  Catch them early, use drones and sensors like literally everyone else, place them on transports, ship them away.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by ThumperPaul on 02/07/24 at 14:24:41

I really don't want mass execution, but a few examples of some known bad eggs coming across would be okay with me.  I think we already have regional unrest with Texas and Arizona fed up.

And the ridiculous backlog in the courts going 1 by 1 is the definition of insanity.  We need to think out of the box.  Since they aren't citizens, getting a day in court dedicated to them isn't necessary or practical.  Start putting them in "lots" of 5000 and have mass court cases to get rid of the backlog.  Y'all call came across together on 2/7/24, you'll all get the same mass court date.  There's no way all these people can be vetted 1 by 1 by the courts.  And these cases should be a rubber stamp of guilty of illegal entry.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by WebsterMark on 02/07/24 at 15:07:38

NEW: An 18th Street gang member from Honduras who has been deported from the U.S. six times, has multiple convictions in the U.S., and is wanted in Honduras, was arrested by ICE agents on Friday after he tried to illegally cross the US northern border near Newport, Vermont. He is now in ICE custody & is pending deportation.
His convictions in the U.S. include DWI, assault and battery, unauthorized use of a vehicle, illegal entry, disorderly conduct and drug trafficking.
ICE says during an immigration hearing, he admitted he was affiliated with the Sicarios New Yorkers-XV-18 branch of the 18th Street Gang.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by WebsterMark on 02/07/24 at 15:10:01


0424262E3324410 wrote:
I don’t get it.  Is it just me…. How is 5,000 ILLEGAL immigrants tolerable and acceptable?

 Lack of applicable alternatives.  Mass executions at the border would surely lead to regional unrest.  

 Redirection is plausible, but still messy.  

 A full physical wall is a waste of money.  There is a reason walls are still built to keep people IN, and not out.  Modern technology would be a better use.  Catch them early, use drones and sensors like literally everyone else, place them on transports, ship them away.


Nonsense. Of course a wall helps. It is not a waste of money. It is not the single solution, however. It slows people down or forces them into a different area. Modern technology, relies on people who monitor and then pursue when alert goes out. Obviously useful and should be utilized more but remember, it can be stopped by the stroke of a pen. At least the wall take some work to get around. Build a wall.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by Eegore on 02/07/24 at 23:16:45

 The problem with a physical wall is the tremendous cost to make a complete structure.  The cost estimate to bore through rock and erect panels reached millions per-foot in multiple areas.  What tax payer thinks dumping billions per-mile on a wall where almost nobody travels is a good spending?

 Using walls to funnel people would be more reasonable than this full-wall with guard towers nonsense.  The more efficient wall build would be to use them to protect specific areas of US property, like private land.  

 Resistance to using current methods, available today, like right now, and then adding structures as data comes in - is because Trump said the words "build a wall" so now that's gospel.  If he said "build a defense" people would be using their own drones all over the border right now and demanding billions be spent in enforcement instead of walls.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by WebsterMark on 02/08/24 at 04:55:49

16-year-old Texas cheerleader Lizbeth Medina’s home was targeted by an illegal immigrant, Rafael Govea Romero, 23, who broke into her home one morning as she was staying home from school on Dec. 5 and taking a bath.

Romero sexually assaulted her and bludgeoned her to death in the bathtub by grabbing her head and bashing her brains out on a surface. He also stabbed and slashed her numerous times.

Her mother discovered her lifeless body when she failed to show up for a cheerleading session and saw her leg hanging from the bathtub, sticking out from behind a shower curtain.

The assailant stole her phone and that’s how the victim’s boyfriend and the police caught him.

The family suspects that Romero on multiple occasions broke into the home without anyone’s knowledge because random things went missing for about a month.

A grand jury reviewing his case has come down with a capital murder charge.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by WebsterMark on 02/08/24 at 05:04:17

Trump said build a wall BECAUSE it was Gospel to begin with, not the other way around.

Fine, in those long stretches of nothingness, you probably don’t need a wall…. until you keep funneling the illegals further into those barren areas because that’s the only path left. Actually, more correct would be to say those criminals who are paid a ransom to let illegals pass through the territory before the border will have to start funneling them further and further away.

Take the billions we’re giving Ukraine and use that.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by ThumperPaul on 02/08/24 at 05:19:49

The majority of the 458 miles constructed during the Trump administration were in places where some kind of barrier already existed.  Less than 100 miles of actual new wall was constructed.  With all the modern technology we have, the total length of the border for just Texas is about 1950 miles.  They can’t get an exact number because the Rio Grande turns and meanders wildly.  Most of the miles where a wall hasn’t been constructed is because it’s private land.  Apparently eminent domain laws come into play and/or Texas ranchers would prefer to just put up no trespassing signs and handle the problem themselves (like year round dear season or wild hog season).

It seems like a ton of wasted money to me.  With $15 billion appropriated from the defense budget, we got less than 100 miles of actual new wall.  And there is virtually no improvement in solving the problem.  That said, Biden halting construction with an executive order was pure spiteful politics and had nothing to do with any analytics or new plan.

As long as government keeps up the petty partisan fighting within itself, we really don’t need an enemy from abroad to destroy us.  The enemy within is our own worst enemy.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by WebsterMark on 02/08/24 at 05:27:07

Hard to argue against the fact that Trump failed to deliver on his wall promise.

But in a country where we have multilane interstates from one end of the country to the other end, east to west and north to south, it’s not impossible to build a wall across the border. It’s not.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by ThumperPaul on 02/08/24 at 05:52:10


506265747362754A66756C070 wrote:
Hard to argue against the fact that Trump failed to deliver on his wall promise.

But in a country where we have multilane interstates from one end of the country to the other end, east to west and north to south, it’s not impossible to build a wall across the border. It’s not.


Nobody is saying it’s not possible.  It is extremely expensive and proving to be less than effective.  We have areas with no wall, but migrants are still entering where a wall exists.  They could take a path where there is no wall, but why bother….. it’s probably more challenging and fun to say they entered over, under, and through the big bad wall.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/08/24 at 07:16:51

A Wall, expensive.
Drones/electronic surveillance, expensive.
    (Yet BOTH together are still LESS than the cost of caring for, transporting, feeding, giving out blankets, cell phones, hearings, hiring more people/equipment to deal with the flood, etc. etc. etc.)

Cheep, effective, 'T' posts with a single strand of wire, with signs on them in Spanish, Chinese, Arabic, saying:
  '"Do Not Cross"

Then let US Citizens, guard the border,
 (which their will be MORE than enough)
The private land could be rented out, providing revenue.
And the Federal land rented via a 'draw' permit, providing revenue.

Sure, their will still be, lying steeling thief's getting in,
(Like Ilhan Abdullahi Omar)
But their will be Less, ILLEGALS, that want to Turn the USA into the Shit Hole they came from. And Less DRUGS.

And the Legal Emigrants that WANT to be US Citizens will be Welcome !








Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by Serowbot on 02/08/24 at 07:30:46

Show me a 50ft wall and I'll show you a 51ft ladder

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by ThumperPaul on 02/08/24 at 09:11:32


4751465B43565B40340 wrote:
Show me a 50ft wall and I'll show you a 51ft ladder


You need to allow for lean....make it a 60' ladder!   ::)

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by WebsterMark on 02/08/24 at 10:23:16


5E485F425A4F42592D0 wrote:
Show me a 50ft wall and I'll show you a 51ft ladder

Show me a 51 foot ladder and I’ll show you an off a lot of people waiting to climb up and while they’re waiting, authorities can show up and push the ladder down.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/08/24 at 10:23:27

"...At least 41 people have been arrested at the Roosevelt Hotel since the city turned the former swanky Prohibition-era hotel into a migrant shelter ..."

GIVE, ILLEGALS, free, healthcare, food, housing, transportation, etc, etc, etc,

Ah, but not to worry !!!
The UL FDS WOKE Socialists,
   have got it covered !

Just part of the new normal.



Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by WebsterMark on 02/08/24 at 10:26:12

A wall is not the be-all and end-all. It works in the right areas and we don’t have enough of it in the areas where we need it. But as everyone says, much of this illegal immigration can be stop with the stroke of a pen. Simply state the border is close to asylum-seekers until some point in the future.

Force local authorities and prosecuting attorneys to turn over illegal immigrants arrested for other offenses to ICE and deport them back to their country of origin. Do that for a while in a message will get across the US is closed for business.

I know the Democratic Party and power desperately wants new voters but we’ve got to stop this.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/10/24 at 07:18:04

ALL, the pieces, put together from several reports.

(Just amazing on how many of the UL, TOLD WHAT TO DO ,’news’, outlets tried their best to sanitize)



“… three teenage boys -- two aged 15 and another 16 -- entered JD Sports, a clothing and sneaker store, … and started stealing merchandise …  female security guard …  took back the stolen property … one teen -- a 15-year-old --  fired a .45-caliber handgun toward the security guard but instead shot a 38-year-old woman. …


They are Illegal , Catch and release, from Venezuela, thugs. who just were, RELEASED in NOV.

(Golly Gee Wally, how in the world, did one get a GUN, in NY, where a HONEST, CITIZEN, has to jump through hoop after hoop,  PAY a HUGE fee, just to defend themselves ?)

Never mind,
    just the, NEW NORMAL,
         says the UL, DFI, Democrats !!!

Come from a SHIT  HOLE,
Then turn the place you come to ,
       into a SHIT HOLE.



Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by Serowbot on 02/10/24 at 09:43:20


1C2E29383F2E39062A39204B0 wrote:
I know the Democratic Party and power desperately wants new voters but we’ve got to stop this.

I know the Republican Party Trump Party desperately wants the issue more than any solution and are willing to do absolutely nothing for at least a year except whine

If you are not complaining to your Republican Representatives about their grandstanding... you should STFU

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/10/24 at 10:37:42


3224332E36232E35410 wrote:
"...  ... you should STFU "


So 3 + YEARS of PUDDEN HEAD, doing absolutely NOTHING,
 (Well, doing, what he was TOLD to)

 is someone else's fault ????????




Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by WebsterMark on 02/10/24 at 11:17:14


7E687F627A6F62790D0 wrote:
[quote author=1C2E29383F2E39062A39204B0 link=1706801217/30#39 date=1707416772]I know the Democratic Party and power desperately wants new voters but we’ve got to stop this.

I know the Republican Party Trump Party desperately wants the issue more than any solution and are willing to do absolutely nothing for at least a year except whine

If you are not complaining to your Republican Representatives about their grandstanding... you should STFU[/quote]

Yea, I heard the talking points from MSNBC too. Good job repeating them.
But as usual, there’s a flaw in your thinking.

The proposal you are saying Republicans are refusing to endorse which therefore proves they want the issue and not a solution, is not a solution. As I said before, on what planet is allowing 5000 illegals a day to break into the country and steal resources a solution? It’s not. It’s a BS plan that solves nothing except giving the Democratic media talking points that people like you repeat.

I will do the opposite of STFU, I’ve told my representatives to fight against the Democratic Party get out the vote program.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/10/24 at 11:32:35

What the UL, DFI, FDS Socialists, that call themselves democrats, do, and wish to do MORE of, on the border issue.

“… Under current immigration law, someone who tries to illegally enter the U.S. can be quickly removed without going to immigration court unless that person signals “an intention to apply for asylum ..,.”
“…, when people don’t seek asylum “we don’t just ‘turn them back …,”
“…  border officials take migrants into custody and try to find them in U.S. databases …”
“… check their background checks to identify any threats and then try to deport them …”
“ … Mexico doesn’t agree to receive people from other countries…”

( Even though they came from their)
“… limited resources — not enough border officials, detention space or immigration judges — results in some people being released into the U.S. to determine later whether they can stay ..,:

Where the Republicans,
Would, ‘DO”, not just ’TRY’.

Wellll,  it’s just the result of getting a TROPHY, for doing NOTHING.

  It’s the NEW Normal.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by Serowbot on 02/10/24 at 12:17:12

And you don't think you're drinking Kool-Aid?...
Republicans mostly wrote and agreed to this bill... until Fartman tRump told them to oppose it.
They're opposing their own bill

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/10/24 at 12:49:59


3A2C3B263E2B263D490 wrote:
"... you're drinking Kool-Aid?..."


LOLOLOLOL, a bill written by a Progressive, a Socialist, and a RINO.

And you will,
drink whatever
Jim Jones would
TELL YOU
To Drink

;D
;D
;D
;D
;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D




Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by Serowbot on 02/10/24 at 13:53:03

Jones was a religious cult
You'll never catch an atheist out
Kool Aid is for Orange Jesus followers

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by WebsterMark on 02/11/24 at 05:38:07


796F78657D68657E0A0 wrote:
And you don't think you're drinking Kool-Aid?...
Republicans mostly wrote and agreed to this bill... until Fartman tRump told them to oppose it.
They're opposing their own bill


No, they did not. Unlike groupthink Democrats, most Republicans are against what their compromised leadership wrote. This is not a bi-partisan bill and will hopefully cost a few of those sellouts their seats.


Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by WebsterMark on 02/11/24 at 05:41:20


7C6A7D60786D607B0F0 wrote:
Jones was a religious cult
You'll never catch an atheist out
Kool Aid is for Orange Jesus followers


Atheist are the biggest mass killers in history.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/11/24 at 07:57:34

 California,  Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia,  Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Oregon, Utah,  Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Minnesota.

  All allow, Illegal’s to get a Driver License.
          Rather Amazing !
 (Real ID DL requires evidence of lawful Citizen status. Standard DL, does not)

So a, ILLEGAL, can get a US DL, Buy a car, drive it all they want all over this Nation, until they get in an Accident.
Then, because they have NO CAR INSURANCE,
     EVERYONE ELSE PAYS !

Perhaps a Spock wanna be, could show that the ‘Un-Insured’ cost is so much higher in the areas where there is a lot of Illegal’s.
Which have NO car insurance.


If you are a NOT a Citizen of Mexico, and you get into a accident in Mexico with your US car.
“… Mexican police may detain you until they determine who is at fault.
You will have to show that you either have insurance recognized by the Mexican government or the financial ability to pay any judgment
against you… “


YET, if a person has a Mexico licensed car, and driver, what happens if they get into an accident in the US ???????

Have never seen any signs in Mexico, saying, “You Must Have USA Car Insurance”, like the “You Must Have Mexico Car Insurance”,  that are all over border towns, going into Mexico.


Wait, the NEW, Normal !!!!!!!!!!



Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by Serowbot on 02/11/24 at 10:50:45

In states where illegals can't get DL's,
roads are so much safer... because illegals don't drive... right?
they all ride the bus.. right?
they all walk... right?
they would never drive without a license

'cause if they did and they had an accident they could just walk away.  we would have no photo or address or record of  vehicle purchase

states where illegals can't get licenses don't have accidents involving illegals
because they don't drive

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by WebsterMark on 02/11/24 at 12:35:28


786E79647C69647F0B0 wrote:
In states where illegals can't get DL's,
roads are so much safer... because illegals don't drive... right?
they all ride the bus.. right?
they all walk... right?
they would never drive without a license

'cause if they did and they had an accident they could just walk away.  we would have no photo or address or record of  vehicle purchase

states where illegals can't get licenses don't have accidents involving illegals
because they don't drive


How f’ing pathetic is that…. If I don’t lock my door, then the wood won’t get broken when somebody breaks in so I should leave it unlocked. Leave my car unlocked so my windows don’t get broken….

Illegal aliens who are criminals and break in and kill a few people a year in our country would probably kill more people in their own country so when you think about it, we should let them in….

Leftist logic will do anything for votes…

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by Serowbot on 02/11/24 at 14:51:06

uh huh       :-?

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by Serowbot on 02/11/24 at 15:02:59

Gimme' a second here.
So with no ID,... they can't buy or register a car, we won't have an address or name on register, we won't even have a photo of them
 They will definitely be uninsured
... and this is a block of wood?
What part is the block of wood?

Is that the part where they kill somebody?  ...
Uh, because they now have an ID so they can do it?
Wouldn't have happened if we hadn't given them that ID.
Right?

Aren't analogies supposed to be analogous?
Logic is not a Trumpian strong point  ::)

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by WebsterMark on 02/11/24 at 19:22:15

How about if you’re in the country illegally and you’re driving, you get arrested and deported. Duh…..

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/13/24 at 15:31:14

Bought a 1994 Jeep here in AZ.

Plain Jane YJ, runs good, 4cyl, no Power steering or Air, just plain Jane and cheep.
      (Oh NO RUST )
Perfect for running around BLM land which adjoins the 10 acre parcel I am on.

Got a Notice from ADOT.
Need Insurance’s or it will be ANOTHER, $50.00 !

On that ‘notice’ is is stated:
“… If this Vehicle is not being driven on Public roads, Complete a De-Insured Certificate …”

Got that ? “…being driven on Public roads…”

So I called to “…De-Insure...”

Not a problem, can be done over the phone, answered some questions, verified myself, then was asked:
“… this Jeep is immobile and can not be driven, correct …”
I said no, it is not driven on public roads.

Then was:
“…You are working on this Jeep, and it does not run, correct…”
I said No, it is Not Driven on Public Roads.

Then was:
“…this Jeep is stationary and does not move…”

I said NO, it is, NOT DRIVEN, ON PUBLIC ROADS !!!!!!

Then was Silence !!!!!!!!!!
So I Said:
 “It doesn’t run“

BOOM !  I have now a, “Complete a De-Insured Certificate”

NEVER MIND, the notice I was sent, Outlined the LAW.
NEVER MIND, the Quoted Statute, was quoted.
NEVER MIND, she did what, SHE wanted to do, or what her boss TOLD her to do.

(Oh, for the Spock Wanna Be, Yea, I Know, FULL WELL, she was, ‘prompting’, me)

So here we have a very clear case of a person, to the person up, and/of the person above that.
CHANGING THE LAW.
    JUST BECAUSE ?
 Don’t know, to lazy, someone else told them ??????


But NOT to Worry.

IT IS THE NEW NORMAL !!!!!

     (Remember, 2+2, COULD = 5 or 3)

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/13/24 at 15:36:54


584E59445C49445F2B0 wrote:
"... because illegals don't drive...  ... states where illegals can't get licenses don't have accidents involving illegals
because they don't drive"


So that is why my car/truck insurance is 22-25% CHEAPER in MN than AZ.



Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by thumperclone on 02/13/24 at 15:53:19


75566B484A51565F380 wrote:
[quote author=584E59445C49445F2B0 link=1706801217/45#51 date=1707677445]"... because illegals don't drive...  ... states where illegals can't get licenses don't have accidents involving illegals
because they don't drive"


So that is why my car/truck insurance is 22-25% CHEAPER in MN than AZ.


[/quote]
insurance is based on many drivers factors

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by WebsterMark on 02/14/24 at 03:49:35

Good luck with this one MnSpring. Leftist will literally cut their nose off to spite their face.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/14/24 at 10:56:14


4056415C44515C47330 wrote:
"... Wouldn't have happened if we hadn't given them that ID. Right? ..."


A Yep,
and the name on that DL
(Which is Given to the ILLEGAL)
Is;  Juan José Hernandez.
The photo is a little make up here and there, just a tiny  dab  of superglue to change nose/ear/eyebrows, and a generous dash of hair color die.


As WM said:
A ILLEGAL Caught without a DL,
BACK you go


But WAIT !!!!!!!!!

It’s the NEW NORMAL !!!!!!!



Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/15/24 at 08:50:47

 Chinese migrants flooding southern border

“…  reports on the surge in Chinese nationals slipping through the southern border …”

“…  Released figures released by Customs and Border Protection (CBP) show that the number of Chinese migrants pouring across the southern border has surged since this time last year, raising national security concerns ...”

“…  more than 20,000 Chinese nationals have illegally crossed since the new fiscal year began on Oct. 1 – and more than 90% of them crossed into the San Diego sector in places like Jacumba, a small town about 60 miles east of the city …”

“… Border Patrol has seen record-breaking figures, with a more than 500% increase in Chinese migrants from this time last year, making them the fastest-growing demographic entering the country illegally …”

“… only 450 total Chinese encounters in all of fiscal year 2021 and the San Diego sector has eclipsed that in just the past 48 hours …”

“… A lot of the illegal crossings in Jacumba occur where there is a small gap in the wall, allowing illegal immigrants to slip through on a daily basis …”

“… News crews have witnessed suspected human smugglers pulling up to the border wall in SUVs and offloading migrants, who then walk through the gap …”

“… The influx of Chinese migrants has raised concerns that some may have links to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) …”

“… focus on what’s in the flow as opposed to how large the flow is from a national security perspective ...”

“… Brandon Judd, … (said) … that the majority of the Chinese border crossers are single adult males of military age …”

“… That is a very scary prospect, we know that China does not like us, we know that we are in the crosshairs of China
. Judd said …” 

“… focus on what’s in the flow as opposed to how large the flow is from a national security perspective," says a senior CBP official who asked not to be identified. 

"...That is a very scary prospect, we know that China does not like us, we know that we are in the crosshairs of China, Judd said ..."

“…According to a segment on "60 Minutes," some Chinese migrants have purportedly been using videos on the China-owned social media platform TikTok to learn "step-by-step instructions" for how to find gaps in the border wall and hire smugglers …”


Again for the FDS UL WOKE, I don’t care, what the Nationality is,
It is a matter of Legal, vs ILLEGAL !

Again, forgot,

It Is The New Normal !


Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/18/24 at 13:24:26

Just come in to fill up my water bottle,
And the TV was on.

A female was cutting some leaves to cover a shelter they were preparing
.    (Naked & Afraid)
As she was cutting , she said to the camera:

“… I say a little prayer each time I cut one, cause, you know, um, they are, like, Sentient Beings …”

                The NEW Normal.

Brought to you by the DUMBING DOWN of the US.


Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by Eegore on 02/18/24 at 14:18:41


 Then was:
“…this Jeep is stationary and does not move…”
I said NO, it is, NOT DRIVEN, ON PUBLIC ROADS !!!!!!


 I had a similar issue with a truck and a Savage that is only on private land.

 All I had to do was clarify that the vehicle runs, I drive it, but never on public roads.  I just had to say it another way.

 They said they had never heard of that before, and that the electronic entry system only had "drop downs" and no manual entry options.  So they actually had no way to enter an operational vehicle that isn't on public roads into their system.

 There also was some "in view of public road" nonsense where supposedly uninsured operational vehicles aren't supposed to be left in driveways, but the wording in the law made it a fiasco for the people doing the paperwork.

 Every time I start to think what a sh!tshow all this is I just look at places I've been with no accountability in place and the absolutely disastrous driving conditions that exist there.  

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/19/24 at 07:20:30

Remember the famous Apple Commercial  for the Macintosh?

All the 'robot people',
       and ONE,
throwing a hammer into the screen of the, 'master puppeteer'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_(advertisement)

Sure looks like,
Apple, has now scummed,
to the Dystopian,  
  Big Brother,
    Thought Police !



OH YEA, The New Normal.






Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/25/24 at 07:27:13

"... murder of a 22-year-old Georgia nursing student has been confirmed as an illegal immigrant originally from Venezuela ..."

"...  a Venezuelan national who crossed illegally into El Paso, Texas, in September 2022 & was released into the U.S. via parole,..."


 Get used to the NEW NORMAL.

(Brought to you by the Ultra Liberal, Fairy Dust Sprinkling Socialists)




Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/25/24 at 08:04:27

Deborah Dingell - Michigan.

Said to the effect, '... we can't have this LOSS OF LIFE ..."
Regarding Hamas using Palestinians civilians as a shield.

Really good when, it is OK to KILL any baby in the US, for ANY reason, Any time, In  9 months.

Welllll, Just more of the 'NEW NORMAL !


  (Dingell, what a appropriate name)










Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by Eegore on 02/25/24 at 12:09:28


 I imagine the word CHANGE is only used to explain loose coins then.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/25/24 at 16:06:57


4F6F6D65786F0A0 wrote:
 I imagine the word CHANGE is only used to explain loose coins then.


Sounds like,
a person trying to discredit facts,
by explaining how Grants work.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by Eegore on 02/25/24 at 16:30:31

Sounds like,
a person trying to discredit facts,
by explaining how Grants work.


 Sounds like someone that doesn't know what the word discredit means.  I never disputed any general "facts" in that conversation.  I actually agreed with you but since I wasn't lock-step in agreement with every word and how it is used in one sentence, it will, as usual, be interpreted as being in disagreement.

 Not all "grants" are US tax dollars.  But most are.  It's that simple.

Title: Re: The New Normal
Post by MnSpring on 02/28/24 at 18:31:07

    Get used to the NEW NORMAL !!!

Jose Antonio Ibarra, a Venezuelan migrant who entered the country illegally in 2022, faced numerous murder and assault charges for killing Georgia nursing student Laken Riley and leaving her body on the school’s campus in Athens. He was accused of brutally beating her and severely damaging her skull.

The mayor of Athens, Ga., where an illegal immigrant was recently charged with murdering a female nursing student at the University of Georgia, said Wednesday in the context of the tragedy that crime and illegal immigration are “not connected.”


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/athens-mayor-says-crime-and-illegal-immigration-not-connected-after-killing-of-uga-student-laken-riley/ar-BB1j46aG

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