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Reply #15 - 02/06/24 at 08:21:08
 
WebsterMark wrote on 02/06/24 at 05:20:11:
"On what planet is it a “reform bill” when it allows up to 5,000 people a day to cross the southern border with no evidence of their ability to be productive additions to America? ..."


From Political:
“… ‘Border shutdown’
The bill would force the Department of Homeland Security to shutter the border if daily illegal crossings top 5,000 migrants on average or 8,500 in a single day. Unaccompanied minors from countries other than Mexico and Canada wouldn’t count toward that total. …”

                  Sounds like 3,500 MORE, than 5,000

Even. CNN said
“…strong majority of the public – 63% now compared with 55% in September – said the Biden administration should be tougher on immigrants crossing at the border. More than two-thirds, 68%, said they disapproved of Biden’s handling of the border…”

NPR said, Biden said:
“…if you're trying to leave Cuba, Nicaragua or Haiti, you have a — and we — or have agreed to begin a journey to America, do not — do not just show up at the border," Biden said. "Stay where you are and apply legally from there.”…”

ANY TV Cameras in the room when Puden Head announced his bill, which as of yet does not exist.
Because all the Quotes of what he said are full of.
“…  So, they — if they — if they — we’re making the program available …”
“… personnel, another — asylum officers and personnel — and 100 new immigration judges …”
“… pathway they pro- — they process — they process them to require …”
“… Title 42 to deal with — to deal with the pandemic, a rapidly — to rapidly expel people who crossed the border …”
“… It was a — designed to …”

That, ‘OFFICIAL’,  written piece, is FULL of the above.
AND: “… I don’t like Title 42. But it’s the law now, and I have to operate within it. …”
   A-Yep, Mush For Brains has got it covered !
https://cl.usembassy.gov/remarks-by-president-biden-on-border-security-and-en...

“… Chinese migrants are the fastest growing group trying to cross into the U.S. from Mexico. Last year, U.S. Customs and Border Protection reported 37,000 Chinese citizens were apprehended as they illegally crossed the border; that's 50 times more than two years earlier. …”

“… Last year, U.S. Customs and Border Protection recorded two-and-a-half million instances of detaining or turning away people attempting to cross into the United states from Mexico …”


“… A 4-foot gap at the end of a border fence 60 miles east of San Diego. Smugglers in SUVs race along the border fence and drop migrants off near the gap. Over four days, "60 Minutes" witnessed nearly 600 migrants — adults and children — pass through the gap and onto U.S. soil, unchecked. …”
 
        North US Border.  The Longest boarder in the world.

“… The number of migrants crossing the border from Canada into the U.S. is rising — in one sector by more than 700% — as more Mexicans desperate to get into the U.S. fly to Canada  …”

“… Mexicans are by far the leading nationality crossing into the U.S. in the Swanton Sector, followed by Haitians and Guatemalans, according to CBP data. …”

“… Much like migrants seeking to cross the southern border, organized criminal organizations play a role in smuggling migrants into Canada as well.  …”

“… lead patrol agent at the Champlain Border Station which is part of the Swanton sector, an area that covers 295 miles along the border. He says in 2023, border patrol agents apprehended roughly 7,000 people, a nearly 500% annual increase. …”

“… the increase in illegal crossings makes it more difficult for law enforcement to find people who are actually crossing for nefarious reasons.
“There still are a lot of bad actors mixed in with them. We still see aggravated felons, we still catch a lot of bad people,”  …”
“… one reason for the increased number of crossings is the amount of attention the southern border is receiving. …”
“… People of Mexican origin are the largest demographic the Swanton border patrol encounters….”


            Do these people have passports ?

So Mush For Brains, 'plan' is to allow ILLEGAL'S to reside in this Nation, and use the Tax Dollars, they will NEVER Pay !

5,000 a day,
35,000 a week,
150,000 a month,
1,825,000 A Year.

PLUS, how many NON Paying ILLEGALS already here.

Wonder if that is another reason to the sudden rise in the cost of things ?









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Re: The New Normal
Reply #16 - 02/06/24 at 08:45:34
 
yeah it's Bidens fault the bubs got EVERYTHING they asked for in the new bill but won't pass it the circus clowns need something to blame on potus
the economy is up unemployment is down the stock market is thriving inflation is stable.. yeah it's Bidens fault the bub clowns are running the circus
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Reply #17 - 02/06/24 at 09:34:55
 
I am Prejudice !

Don’t care, what color one’s Skin is, their Religion, their Heritage, their Sex/Preference.
Don’t care if they come into this Nation, LEGALLY, because they WANT to be a part of this great Nation.

DO CARE, if they are Crooked, Liars, Thief’s, Murderers, Molesters, and, lovers of a Brain Dead PUPPET, who does everything the UL Woke DFI’s say to do.

As well as the, Fairy Dust Sprinklers,  who actually believe putting several  MILLIONS of ILLEGALS into this Nation, (who will never contribute one cent, only take) will benefit this Nation.


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Reply #18 - 02/06/24 at 10:42:20
 
"... Since October, Scottsdale has experienced 22 burglaries of this nature, with the latest incident occurring on Jan. 24.

According to Scottsdale police, crime tourists have been carrying out their operations in the United States, presenting an ongoing decadelong issue seen in cities such as New York and Los Angeles.

While only a few of the cases in Scottsdale have resulted in arrests, those that did saw the police department providing evidence that establishes a regional connection to South American theft groups. ..."


https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/scottsdale-breaking/2024/02/03/sou...


Not to worry,
The POTUS and the Gov of AZ have it all under control !

It's just the new normal.








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Reply #19 - 02/06/24 at 11:34:51
 
From CNN  —

"...,President Joe Biden on Thursday announced he is expanding a program to accept up to 30,000 migrants per month from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela –  ..."

Of course, it's the 'New Way' !

"... The United States
has the highest percentage
of illegal immigrants by country,
according to most reports.  ..."



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Reply #20 - 02/06/24 at 13:44:06
 
Ilhan Omar said:

“…The US government will do what we Somalians in the U.S. tell them to do.
They will do what we want and nothing else….”


“… tells Somalians that she is Somalian first, Muslim second …”

         [no, American wasn’t even mentioned].

The accuracy of the translation was confirmed by a Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs from Somaliland.

Yet the Gov,
(two time graduate of the Wellstone progressive socialist school)
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Reply #21 - 02/07/24 at 06:19:11
 
I don’t get it.  Is it just me…. How is 5,000 ILLEGAL immigrants tolerable and acceptable?  Is it the “new normal” that smaller amounts of illegalality is acceptable?  There needs to be zero tolerance for illegal border crossing - period.  There is a legal path that must be adhered to.  This may sound inhumane to some, but let them stack up at the Mexican border and let Mexico deal with it.  With most of the migrants now coming from countries south of Mexico, Mexico should be securing its southern border.  Mexico will stop being a conduit if we secure our border and let them fill up their country if they won’t plug their southern border.
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Reply #22 - 02/07/24 at 11:11:14
 
“… How is 5,000 ILLEGAL immigrants tolerable and acceptable? …”
      (Every DAY)

I Remember a time,
When a POTUS
Was in the process of building a Wall.
And a bunch of
UL, Progressive FDS, WOKE Socialists,
Jumped up and down !!!!!!

And they STILL think it is correct !

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Reply #23 - 02/07/24 at 12:13:35
 
I wish a wall was the answer, but it’s not.  It helps, but it’s not enough in and of itself.  There needs to be a big deterrent - like a harsh penalty (up to including death) for attempting to enter illegally.  That may sound harsh, but there is a legal path that must be followed.  It not, and you chose illegal entry, you are risking your life based on your poor choice.

Pew Research keeps some good unbiased stats based on credible resources, and Trump did worse at removing illegals than Obama during his first two years.  His numbers improved a bit in his last 2 years.  This really shouldn’t be a political issue.  And it’s nonsense that Democrats want more illegals so they can fill up the ballot box (that’s pure propaganda pumped out by certain media like Fox News).  Journalism for the non-thinking.
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Reply #24 - 02/07/24 at 13:30:59
 

I don’t get it.  Is it just me…. How is 5,000 ILLEGAL immigrants tolerable and acceptable?

 Lack of applicable alternatives.  Mass executions at the border would surely lead to regional unrest.  

 Redirection is plausible, but still messy.  

 A full physical wall is a waste of money.  There is a reason walls are still built to keep people IN, and not out.  Modern technology would be a better use.  Catch them early, use drones and sensors like literally everyone else, place them on transports, ship them away.
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Reply #25 - 02/07/24 at 14:24:41
 
I really don't want mass execution, but a few examples of some known bad eggs coming across would be okay with me.  I think we already have regional unrest with Texas and Arizona fed up.

And the ridiculous backlog in the courts going 1 by 1 is the definition of insanity.  We need to think out of the box.  Since they aren't citizens, getting a day in court dedicated to them isn't necessary or practical.  Start putting them in "lots" of 5000 and have mass court cases to get rid of the backlog.  Y'all call came across together on 2/7/24, you'll all get the same mass court date.  There's no way all these people can be vetted 1 by 1 by the courts.  And these cases should be a rubber stamp of guilty of illegal entry.
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Reply #26 - 02/07/24 at 15:07:38
 
NEW: An 18th Street gang member from Honduras who has been deported from the U.S. six times, has multiple convictions in the U.S., and is wanted in Honduras, was arrested by ICE agents on Friday after he tried to illegally cross the US northern border near Newport, Vermont. He is now in ICE custody & is pending deportation.
His convictions in the U.S. include DWI, assault and battery, unauthorized use of a vehicle, illegal entry, disorderly conduct and drug trafficking.
ICE says during an immigration hearing, he admitted he was affiliated with the Sicarios New Yorkers-XV-18 branch of the 18th Street Gang.
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Reply #27 - 02/07/24 at 15:10:01
 
Eegore wrote on 02/07/24 at 13:30:59:
I don’t get it.  Is it just me…. How is 5,000 ILLEGAL immigrants tolerable and acceptable?

 Lack of applicable alternatives.  Mass executions at the border would surely lead to regional unrest.  

 Redirection is plausible, but still messy.  

 A full physical wall is a waste of money.  There is a reason walls are still built to keep people IN, and not out.  Modern technology would be a better use.  Catch them early, use drones and sensors like literally everyone else, place them on transports, ship them away.


Nonsense. Of course a wall helps. It is not a waste of money. It is not the single solution, however. It slows people down or forces them into a different area. Modern technology, relies on people who monitor and then pursue when alert goes out. Obviously useful and should be utilized more but remember, it can be stopped by the stroke of a pen. At least the wall take some work to get around. Build a wall.
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Reply #28 - 02/07/24 at 23:16:45
 
 The problem with a physical wall is the tremendous cost to make a complete structure.  The cost estimate to bore through rock and erect panels reached millions per-foot in multiple areas.  What tax payer thinks dumping billions per-mile on a wall where almost nobody travels is a good spending?

 Using walls to funnel people would be more reasonable than this full-wall with guard towers nonsense.  The more efficient wall build would be to use them to protect specific areas of US property, like private land.  

 Resistance to using current methods, available today, like right now, and then adding structures as data comes in - is because Trump said the words "build a wall" so now that's gospel.  If he said "build a defense" people would be using their own drones all over the border right now and demanding billions be spent in enforcement instead of walls.
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Reply #29 - 02/08/24 at 04:55:49
 
16-year-old Texas cheerleader Lizbeth Medina’s home was targeted by an illegal immigrant, Rafael Govea Romero, 23, who broke into her home one morning as she was staying home from school on Dec. 5 and taking a bath.

Romero sexually assaulted her and bludgeoned her to death in the bathtub by grabbing her head and bashing her brains out on a surface. He also stabbed and slashed her numerous times.

Her mother discovered her lifeless body when she failed to show up for a cheerleading session and saw her leg hanging from the bathtub, sticking out from behind a shower curtain.

The assailant stole her phone and that’s how the victim’s boyfriend and the police caught him.

The family suspects that Romero on multiple occasions broke into the home without anyone’s knowledge because random things went missing for about a month.

A grand jury reviewing his case has come down with a capital murder charge.
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