Donate!
Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register :: View Members
Pages: 1 2 
Send Topic Print
Tranny went bad… (Read 128 times)
Eegore
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 8017

Re: Tranny went bad…
Reply #15 - 01/07/24 at 16:37:03
 

Yes it is.

In many cases as "... more than two 500mg Tylenol used it "off-label" but they did not use it wrongly..." it is used wrongly, it is just not harmful.


 Incorrect This is because "harmful" is not the defining factor for the words "Off" and "Label" when used specifically and in exclusivity to describe drugs used "Off label".    Off-label is not "wrong" it is only the practice of use outside the scope of FDA assessment.  It's too time consuming and costly to approve a drug for every known use.

 Using a drug outside of FDA approval is not "wrong", it is actually "right" to use a drug that is effective.  



"... if the intent is to try to compare this to ..."
Cover the Azz of the drug company's  
"... then sure spin it however you want..."


 They don't need to have their Azz covered since it's not "wrong" to use drug off-label.  It's completely legal.



Sign says speed limit  55, Could be compared to, '"on-label"  Use !
Someone going 65, could be compared to ,"off-label" Use !


 Poor comparison as it is actually against the law, or "wrong" to go 65 in a 55 zone.  Off label use is like saying a person is walking on the sidewalk in a 55mph zone.  Completely legal, not "wrong".




"A gun, by a person not in the military, "ON-label" would be shooting something like a target, animal, defense, etc.

A "off-label" use would shooting/killing a innocent person for no reason."


 Poor comparison because "Off-Label" is not illegal, wrong, bad, unauthorized etc.  It's legal.  "Off label" would be using a legally owned pistol to shoot at a legal authorized target at a long-range.  Perfectly legal, just not what a pistol was made for.

You keep comparing "Off label" to crime.  Its not a crime, its legal, perfectly allowed, accepted.  It's fine to do.
 
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
WebsterMark
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 12854

Gender: male
Re: Tranny went bad…
Reply #16 - 01/07/24 at 17:48:10
 
The evidence that hormone therapy causes psychological conditions to cause mass-murder is, at this time, nonexistent.


But if in rare cases, it is the deciding factor, shouldn’t we investigate that?

What drugs or perhaps most importantly, was there a combination of drugs and “therapy” common among to the half dozen or so gender-brainwashed shooters ?

Is anyone investigating that? If so, it would need to be the FBI and what level of trust do we have with them?
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
MnSpring
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

Younger than most
people my age.

Posts: 9008
Minn
Gender: male
Re: Tranny went bad…
Reply #17 - 01/07/24 at 18:34:38
 
Eegore wrote on 01/07/24 at 16:37:03:
"
"Off-Label" is not illegal, wrong, bad, unauthorized etc...."  


OK then.
Just change all, ‘off-label’ use of drugs,
And you will stop all crimes, committed because of drugs.

“…Poor comparison…”
Sure just like  banning a red car,
because it was used in a  bank robbery.
Because it will stop  Bank robbery’s !

      Oh BTW,
how is that longest war
the US has, progressing ?

Back to top
 
 

Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
  IP Logged
MnSpring
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

Younger than most
people my age.

Posts: 9008
Minn
Gender: male
Re: Tranny went bad…
Reply #18 - 01/07/24 at 18:45:11
 
Eegore wrote on 01/07/24 at 16:37:03:
"...not what a pistol was made for..."
 

Really ?

Firearms were made for DEFENSE,
    not offense.
Go go back in history.

Oh Wait, the Socialists have REMOVED History !


Back to top
 
 

Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
  IP Logged
MnSpring
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

Younger than most
people my age.

Posts: 9008
Minn
Gender: male
Re: Tranny went bad…
Reply #19 - 01/07/24 at 20:46:34
 
Eegore wrote on 01/07/24 at 16:37:03:
"...   Using a drug outside of FDA approval is not "wrong", it is actually "right" to use a drug that is effective.  ..."  

I seem to remember, a drug was used, ‘off-label’,
And their was a whole bunch of people that said,
        IT was Wrong !
When other people said it was effective.

Back to top
 
 

Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
  IP Logged
Eegore
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 8017

Re: Tranny went bad…
Reply #20 - 01/07/24 at 21:24:28
 

But if in rare cases, it is the deciding factor, shouldn’t we investigate that?

 Yes.  Again, that is what is happening.  This is like asking police investigators that have been investigating a crime for 5 years if they should be investigating.  Just because the investigation is not giving an outcome you want to hear doesn't mean it isn't happening.


Is anyone investigating that? If so, it would need to be the FBI and what level of trust do we have with them?

 Yes.  For the most part, what I have seen is chemists, psychologists, medical professionals in different areas including neurologists, and law enforcement.  If it needs to be the FBI, and you don't trust any outcomes from them then just formulate an opinion without data from the FBI, that's what I do.

 The problem again is how do you explain all the humans doing the same thing without going out killing people with guns?  Why is there no noticeable uptick in any other forms of violence?  Is the drug and therapy combination somehow only causing shootings?  How can that be?

 Also what about all the shootings that are not trans?  
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
Eegore
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 8017

Re: Tranny went bad…
Reply #21 - 01/07/24 at 21:34:04
 

Really ?

Firearms were made for DEFENSE,
   not offense.
Go go back in history.

Oh Wait, the Socialists have REMOVED History !



 A pistol's geometric design is not for long range shooting like a rifle's.  You are intentionally spinning the obvious comparison specific to the range of the weapon to avoid addressing that you are comparing crimes to a completely legal activity.  Some might call that deflection.
 Off-label is legal, not wrong and has nothing to do with harm.

 So let's say a pistol, used ONLY as defense, is not geometrically designed to defend the defender, in the act of defense, at a long range that a rifle, used in defense, could reach when a defender is defending themselves.  A rifle, used in defense, to defend a defender in the act of defense is not geometrically designed to defend at a close range that a pistol is, when used ONLY as defense.

 A rifle used at close range, to defend, is used off-label.

 A pistol used for long range, to defend, is used off-label.

 None of those are crimes.  All of your "off-label" comparisons are crimes.  You use poor comparison because you insist off-label means wrong, when it only means it is not used specific to it's original FDA purpose.


 
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
Eegore
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 8017

Re: Tranny went bad…
Reply #22 - 01/07/24 at 21:42:25
 
I seem to remember, a drug was used, ‘off-label’,
And their was a whole bunch of people that said,
       IT was Wrong !
When other people said it was effective.



 Great, does it make sense for me to bring up statements from "a whole bunch of people that said" and argue it as if You said those things?  Or would you consider that deflection?

 Either way, they said the lying claims that it "cured" a disease is wrong.  Why can't a single doctor to this day provide patient actual records of patient outcomes?  Because they lied, and some even admitted it with the large India data (which is conveniently not Observed), and that is "wrong".  If it were true, then it would be just fine to make the claims of successful off-label use.  The lie is the problem, not the off-label use.


 This is totally different than saying it is wrong to use a drug, off-label, then comparing that to crimes.  Off-label is not a crime, it only means a drug not used for it's original FDA approved purpose.

 I'm sure another gun control comparison will deflect away from that fact though.
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
WebsterMark
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 12854

Gender: male
Re: Tranny went bad…
Reply #23 - 01/08/24 at 05:29:24
 
Yes.  For the most part, what I have seen is chemists, psychologists, medical professionals in different areas including neurologists, and law enforcement.

I hate this saying but it fits here: I’m from Missouri so Show Me.

Where is this list of prescriptions from the Nashville shooter for example and convince me this includes any and all prescriptions given to her.

As far as doubting official explanations, pretend I’m an old school journalist, not a modern day political advocate posing as a journalist, and convince me the data you’re getting hasn’t been edited. And I’ll save you the time, you can’t. We’re all at the mercy of suspect information. All we can do is sift what data we can get through our own BS filters and arrive at some version of the truth.

The fact the  Nashville shooter’s writings have been kept secret with only a couple pages leaked should be a concern. If those in charge believe even a redacted version isn’t “appropriate” then how could I possibly believe a list of prescriptions is accurate? We just had the President of Harvard resign because the reality that she was never competent became too hard to hide, but a week ago we were told how amazing, smart and competent she was. And now we’re told it was racial animus that drove her out, and not incompetence.

People in charge lie. They lie to protect themselves, they lie to protect the message, they lie to protect approved speech. They lie. The vast majority of all the information we get is full of certain percentage of lies. That’s the truth.

Call this the law of Webby: The percentage of untruths vs truthful “facts” in a statement or news story is proportional to the potential damage inflicted to the reputation of a liberal talking point.

I’m sure there’s an inversely proportional part to that law as well. I’ll work on solidifying this law and post in its entirety later. I got work to do right now.

Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
Eegore
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 8017

Re: Tranny went bad…
Reply #24 - 01/08/24 at 05:53:33
 
As far as doubting official explanations, pretend I’m an old school journalist, not a modern day political advocate posing as a journalist, and convince me the data you’re getting hasn’t been edited. And I’ll save you the time, you can’t. We’re all at the mercy of suspect information. All we can do is sift what data we can get through our own BS filters and arrive at some version of the truth.

 I agree.  But I imagine if the data said hormone therapy was causing mass shootings only in transgender applications you would be more accepting of it as accurate.  But since there isn't enough data that can conclusively say mass shootings are a product of transgender humans taking hormone therapy then there must be some cover-up or removal of information.

 You keep asking if this is being investigated. I keep telling you I am seeing these investigations.  What I am seeing is many, many - hundreds of thousands of humans on the same drugs that aren't more violent.  

 If we look at the same information using alcohol, yes there is much more violence when alcohol is involved across the board.  Alcohol causes violence.  This is measurable and we can see increased general violence due to a specific substance, and the probability of violence increases with the mental instability of the human consuming it.

 What transgender drugs lack in this is a general increase in violence to begin with.  So the issue is most likely the mental instability, not the drugs, since hundreds of thousands of humans are taking the same drugs with zero increase in violence.  

 What I am not understanding is how any drugs can cause more mass shootings, but not other forms of violence.  How is this possible?
 
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
Serowbot
YaBB Moderator
ModSquad
*****
Offline

OK.... so what's the
speed of dark?

Posts: 28385
Tucson Az
Gender: male
Re: Tranny went bad…
Reply #25 - 01/08/24 at 07:40:23
 
How many people take a baby aspirin daily to ward off heart disease?  Recommended by their doctor BTW
They aren't babies... and they don't have headaches.

Lock'em up!
Back to top
 
 

Ludicrous Speed !... ... Huh...
  IP Logged
Serowbot
YaBB Moderator
ModSquad
*****
Offline

OK.... so what's the
speed of dark?

Posts: 28385
Tucson Az
Gender: male
Re: Tranny went bad…
Reply #26 - 01/08/24 at 07:43:24
 
You gonna' argue with Iron Man?  Grin

Robert Downey Jr. announces on Golden Globes stage: 'I took a beta-blocker.' What do they do?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2024/01/08/robert-downey-...
"Yeah, yeah, I took a beta-blocker so this will be a breeze," he said when he took the stage.
Back to top
 
 

Ludicrous Speed !... ... Huh...
  IP Logged
Pages: 1 2 
Send Topic Print


« Home

 
« Home
SuzukiSavage.com
05/18/24 at 03:28:16



General CategoryPolitics, Religion (Tall Table) › Tranny went bad…


SuzukiSavage.com » Powered by YaBB 2.2!
YaBB © 2000-2007. All Rights Reserved.