There are lists but the drugs are also used off-label by hundreds of thousands of people.  We should have at least 120 trans-gender murderers a year if even 1% were causing mass-violence.

 If there was some specific gender-affirming drug that caused violent behavior it isn't being given to a small enough sample size to definitively know.

 I'd look more at the psychology and social interactions.  Are humans engaging in relationships with transitioning humans experiencing more domestic violence?  This is tremendously more common than shooting up schools and the metrics to evaluate are much more readily available.

 The problem I have is that most of it is hormone therapy.  If this was causing mass-shootings we would have known for sure when around 100 million people had taken them since there would be 10 or 12 mass shootings a day.

Eegore wrote on 01/04/24 at 19:38:41:


“… There are lists but the drugs are also used off-label …”

So then the solution, to people using prescribed/legal drugs drugs,  wrongly,
           (By Using Them ‘Off-Label’)
 Which many times can result in undesirable results.
             Is to BAN those drugs ?

After all, the UL, DFI, FDS, Freedom Hating Socialists,
   Continually say the use of a firearm,
          it is to be BANNED,.
Which will stop the,  ‘off use’,  of them.

It must be because;
Drugs are, “…used off-label by hundreds of thousands of people….”
And Guns are used, ‘Off-Label’, by teeny/tiny amount of people.


(Oh, Why, on ALL the 'news' reports, (Non I Saw), EVER said the 'shooter' was  on, legal, drugs which, were “…used off-label...")

I don't think we are offering a reasonable alternative to people who are having a hard time. the best we can offer them is a life in which they function, because that is the average state in which humans find themselves. In that state there is no real compassion. Acceptance already indicates that something is wrong with the other person.

So someone who does not function and shows destructive behavior is far from attracted to the life of "Normal people".

A therapist will have to go to great lengths to gain the trust of someone like that.
However, most therapists do not have such a healthy upstairs room themselves.
In addition, therapy is a great revenue model that doesn't really work. Unless there is a certain quality involved that is very scarce.

someone who picks up a gun and shoots and then commits suicide. has prepared this in advance in every detail.
These thoughts of doing something like this do not come out of nowhere.
Who doesn't fantasize about these kinds of scenarios, for example when your neighbors do things that you don't like?

When things are going very badly for you and your imaginary world becomes very dominant. then at some point you take these thoughts and start to believe them and think that you are these thoughts.
And face it, that happens to us all day long.

And if there is nothing or no one to get you out of there, the disadvantage of using weapons is that you actually have the option to do this.
I don't really understand what your gender has to do with it and I'm not going to think about it either.
I think most of the problems we have are entirely imaginary.

Serowbot wrote on 01/05/24 at 10:11:11:


Really? Be accepting? You mean accept their delusion?

Did it occur to you if popular society devoted as much energy as they do accepting (and by the way, it’s not accepting of all ideologies, just approved leftist ideology) and instead said “yea, life ain’t fair and some people are mean, but gender disphoria is extremely rare and it’s virtually certain you are not one of those but instead maybe you’re a little too caught up in gaining approval from a narrow social group as well as being prosperous enough that there’s little need for you to focus on gaining what’s needed to survive because it’s handed to you. Perhaps put your phone down and go experience people outside the relatively small circle you find yourself in before you cut your boobs or pecker off because you are a fraction of a way through your life and they don’t grow back, you’ll never ever know what sex is like and you’ll be forever chained to drugs and medical care.”

Serowbot wrote on 01/05/24 at 12:49:18:


I don,t have a problem  

Because drugs in general aren't the primary contributor to mass shootings, including transgender shooters.  It would make no sense to say anything like that.

Define primary?

If a man who’s sad because of a break up, drinks until drunk and then kills someone in a crash, would you say alcohol is the primary contributor to the death?

WebsterMark wrote on 01/07/24 at 11:11:03:



I would say yes.

But in mass shootings there is an intent to kill and it does not come from drugs.

However, in both cases there are feelings and emotions involved.

And because someone does not want to feel those emotions (and therefore takes alcohol or drugs or avoids or postpones things), problems and emotional problems are not solved.

And that person no longer comes into situations that have a corrective effect on him. Because pain and fear must be faced so that it can resolve.

Such a person has his head full of thoughts.
And the mind is always anxious.
So he avoids even more situations.
(life)
Tis is the stage most people are in.


I think the primary cause of mass shootings is an advanced stage so that you can say this person is insane.
They are no longer in touch with the silence within themselves.

The whole hysteria surrounding the elections is also a distraction from the silence within us. This fascination with the thinking mind is the primary cause of all the problems in the world.

But because everyone has this fascination with the mind, we find it normal.
And we fail to see that mass shooters, for example, only have a slightly worse form of this fascination. With all its consequences.

So if you were to ask me; Define primary.
Then i say: The identification/fascination with the thinking mind.