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12/06/22 at 19:14:47
 

Snap the wrinkles outta that cape,E, and get with it


https://discernreport.com/how-many-studies-will-it-take-to-convince-your-vaxx...

Maybe those excess deaths and
Died Suddenlies were just gonna happen.

Go ahead, tell me I said all the Dropped Deads were jab related.
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Reply #1 - 12/06/22 at 19:48:38
 
 So do these count against the comparative volume or does that very sound logic and provable math only apply to oil?
 
 I already agreed with you about elevated cardiac issues, I even posted the age demographics and batch numbers that you won't read.  

 What I do not agree with is 300,000 dead kids in TX, or the hundreds and hundreds of what you claimed, multiple times, were "D.E.A.D." athletes when they are alive.  Those are hockey stick charts predicting outcomes that never happened.  

 What does that sound like to you?

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Reply #2 - 12/06/22 at 20:29:17
 
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Reply #3 - 12/07/22 at 05:26:22
 
 What it sounds like to me is the equivalent of the false global warming charts.  Provide evidence that isn't entirely accurate then only look at the negative without taking into account the comparative volume.

 If we look at myocarditis cases they need to be compared against the overall comparative volume of non-event vaccinations.  Myocarditis is an oil spill.  If we can't logically just bring up oil spills and use false global warming charts to justify ending oil, why can we bring up myocarditis, use false data and claim we need to end vaccines?

 That doesn't mean we ignore the oils spills and mitigate the cause(s), we certainly solve that problem.  But do we shut down oil because of oil spills?  No.  Because we take into account comparative volume.

 Myocarditis is a problem.  That doesn't mean we ignore heart conditions and mitigate cause(s), we certainly solve that problem.  But do we shut down vaccinations because of myocarditis?  No.  Because we take into account comparative volume.
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Reply #4 - 12/07/22 at 07:26:42
 
I disagree.
The value of the jab is not anything that has been quantified. Remember, it was Going to Do All Good Things, but Doesn't. You have no idea the impact the jabs have actually had. But dead people are showing up.
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Reply #5 - 12/07/22 at 07:28:42
 
Read how it worked out

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Derek McIntosh was in excellent health before his vaccine, say family members.
According to data on the VAERS website, more than 40,000 people may have died from adverse reactions to the Covid vaccines. Many experts agree that VAERS is capturing only a small percentage of possible vaccine-related deaths. For example, Steve Kirsch believes at least 250,000 Americans have already died from vaccine injuries.

One of these possible deaths was that of Derek McIntosh, 41, a native of Monticello, Minnesota who died early in the morning of January 4, 2022 - six days after getting his second Pfizer vaccine.

According to his surviving family members, McIntosh would be alive today if he’d not received his Covid vaccine. Family members believe that the shot that caused the death of their loved one was a travesty of justice, a travesty that has only multiplied since his death.

Since the death of his son, Derek’s father has spent hours every day perusing Internet sites and sending emails to any journalist who might be interested in telling Derek’s story.

Family members and friends have asked him why he does this.

“I know 99 percent of people won’t respond, but there’s one guy who will,” says Jeff McIntosh.

I’m one of those one guys. I hope I tell the family’s story well.

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Derek McIntosh didn’t want to get vaccinated. However,  as a single father raising a 17-year-old son, he needed a job and an income and his employer (Kurt Manufacturing) had mandated the vaccine for employees.

According to Derek’s father Jeff McIntosh, who worked for decades at the same company, Kurt Manufacturing has several contracts with the U.S. government. The federal government mandated that any company that has government contracts must have 100 percent of its employees vaccinated by January 10th, 2022. (Just two weeks after Derek’s vaccination, the Supreme Court ruled this mandate was illegal).

Derek could have filed for a religious exemption, but even if it was granted, he would still have had to pay for his own mandatory PCR tests and have to comply with other “penalties” like having to wear a mask every minute at work, according to his father.

“He just thought it was going to be a major hassle,” said his father. Plus, he needed the job and the income.

As his sister Kirstin McIntosh noted, “the vaccine was not mandated … unless he wanted to keep working.”

McIntosh got his first Pfizer shot on December 8th and his second on December 28th, 2021.

According to his sister, his first shot made him “feel sick” for a few days. At the time, he complained of a “racing heart.” Although he felt normal in a matter of days, his sister remembers him telling her, “the second shot might kill me.”

On the morning of December 28, Derek worked several hours before leaving work to go to a CVS pharmacy inside a Target store to get his second shot.

McIntosh almost immediately had adverse reaction
According to family members, Derek’s co-workers reported he was “fine” and seemed as normal as ever before leaving work. That changed almost immediately upon him getting his shot.

Derek began to experience symptoms and called in sick for the rest of the day.

According to his sister and father, Derek became nauseous and quickly developed a fever. Within two or three days, he couldn’t get out of bed, was throwing up and his nose was bleeding. He told his sister in a phone call that he felt like someone with epileptic seizures. He also had strange pains in his feet he’d never experienced before and his bones “felt like pin pricks.”

Derek finally called an ambulance around 1 a.m. on Monday, January 4th, 2022.

Derek’s son, Calvin, then a high school junior, came home around midnight from his late-night job. Around 1:30 his father woke up his only child and told him he felt as sick as he’d ever felt in his life and that he’d just called an ambulance, which was on the way.

His father was having difficulty speaking, but one of the last things he told his son was that he should never get the vaccine.

Moments after he told his son an ambulance was on the way, Calvin’s father collapsed in his son’s room.

Paramedics arrived at the house shortly after and immediately began to provide his father emergency medical attention. Calvin told every one he saw that his father had recently had his Covid vaccine, a revelation that seemed to resonate with at least some of the first-responders.

Derek’s heart stopped several times on the way to the local hospital, which didn’t have a room to treat his father, according to family members.

After several hours at the local hospital, Derek was transported via ambulance to the University of Minnesota Hospital in Minneapolis (about a 45-minute drive).

As he recounted in another interview, Calvin told one of the first nurses he spoke to that his father had recently had his Pfizer shot. Her facial expression was one of “anger and guilt,” also later described as “alarm.” To Kirstin, this reaction was a “tell” that the nurse “had heard such stories many times by then.”

Once at the U of M hospital, the attending physician performed tests that showed his body had blood clots around the heart, lungs and also in his legs.

Derek McIntosh was declared dead at 5:57 a.m. His parents arrived at the hospital minutes after their only son passed away. While in shock, Jeff McIntosh did speak to the doctor who had treated his son. According to McIntosh, the doctor told him his son’s body was ravaged with blood clots, which caused his heart attack.

Family thought they’d ordered an autopsy
The doctor asked Mr. McIntosh if he wanted an autopsy performed. Mr. McIntosh remembers someone giving him “about five pages” of documents, which he signed to, he thought, authorize the autopsy.

Like Calvin and Kirstin, he “immediately” thought the vaccine had caused his son’s death.

The next day, the family got a phone call from the funeral home director who was handling Derek’s services. The funeral home director had seen an on-line version of the death certificate, which listed the “primary cause of death” as “cardiac arrest caused by blood clots to the heart and lungs.” The “secondary cause of death” was listed as “a severe reaction to the Covid vaccine.”

This information was shared over the phone and the funeral home director never printed out a hard copy, something she later told family members she regrets not doing.

A couple of days later, the funeral home director notified the family that the medical examiner did NOT sign the death certificate listing the Covid vaccine as a “secondary” cause of death.

Also, the autopsy the family thought was going to be performed was never done. Since Derek McIntosh was cremated, no autopsy could later be performed.

The family did not receive a death certificate until at least six weeks later. Typically a death certificate is issued within eight days. Such a certificate is needed to deal with myriad estate issues. When the family asked the medial examiner why the delay, they were told that toxicology tests had to be performed and it would take several weeks for these results to be known.

When, weeks later, they’d still not received the death certificate, Derek’s mother called the medical examiner, seeking answers. Eventually the family received the signed death certificate, which made no mention of the Covid vaccine. As it turns out, no toxicology report had ever been performed.

To this day, the family does not understand why no autopsy was performed and why there was a delay in the issuance of the death certificate if no toxicology tests were ever performed.

According to Mr. McIntosh, the report lists natural causes as the reason for his death and mentions the fact Derek suffered from liver issues four years earlier.


No cover-up there
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Reply #6 - 12/07/22 at 08:08:02
 
 I think taking into account the drop in medical center usage, primarily in critical care, is an an example of intended impact.  The problem is anti-vax spend very little, or no time looking at those numbers.  

 Just like pro-electric spends little or no time looking at battery production impacts.  It's easier to point the finger at lying oil execs and oil spills than it is to evaluate long-term battery production.

 It's easier to point the finger at lying politicians and myocarditis than it is to evaluate long term critical care terms averaged against highest risk patient volumes.  

 Dead people are showing up, but those dead people have to be compared against overall volume of vaccinations, or it starts to look like the vaccine only kills people, then these claims of thousands dying per day start to seem realistic, or too easy to believe.

 How many humans in Derek McIntosh's demographic were vaccinated and are fine?  Why is that volume comparison not part of the evaluation?
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Reply #7 - 12/07/22 at 08:48:38
 
Because it is Not Voluntary
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Reply #8 - 12/07/22 at 10:29:32
 
"Because it is Not Voluntary"

 How is something being voluntary or not a valid argument for leaving out comparative volume?  This is math not ethics.

 Its about as voluntary as oil.  Theoretically I could use off-grid power and ride a bicycle, and get an EV car.  But to do any significant actions in my life like fly, use any plastic at all, or be employed etc. then I must contribute to big oil.


 If Derek McIntosh's demographic should not be looked at in full, only look at the negative results, why?  Why is it that we leave out the comparative volume which is mandatory to create any reliable percentage?

 If you asked a climate change supporter why they do not compare oil volume benefits against the volume of oil spills and they say "Because oil use isn't voluntary" would that change the math you are talking about?
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Reply #9 - 12/07/22 at 11:16:43
 
Fair enough.

How about we don't Know the Comparative Volume.
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Reply #10 - 12/07/22 at 13:38:17
 
"How about we don't Know the Comparative Volume."


 But we do know about how many people have been jabbed and how many have had medically treated heart issues, and how many have died.  Your own sources cite this information in detail.  Even if we didn't know the exact comparative volume that is not a reason to exclude it because the volume is outstandingly high - like Oil - in the Billions.

 It's like saying we don't know the exact volume of oil used on the planet.  After all who reports it when they spill a quart of oil on the ground to a central oil efficiency tabulation center?

 We can however have a fairly accurate assessment of oil production and distribution.  Just like vaccinations, we can gain a fairly accurate assessment of how many vaccines have been issued and to what demographic as it is very very rare to find an anonymous vaccination method.


 Would you accept this as an answer from a climate change pusher?  

We can only calculate oil spill damage and not oil advantages because we don't know the comparative volume.
 
 By that logic Oil is 100% deadly because we cant compare oil spills to any other outcome from oil production.
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Reply #11 - 12/07/22 at 15:49:55
 
Who is providing the statistics? Why would I Trust the people who were selling fear,designing policy to coerce people to take the jabs,to Now release absolutely darning numbers? You can. I do not
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Reply #12 - 12/07/22 at 16:02:51
 
"Who is providing the statistics?"

 In this case You are.


Why would I Trust the people who were selling fear,designing policy to coerce people to take the jabs,to Now release absolutely darning numbers?"

 Then why use them in Your source material?  You provided the vaccination numbers in your article and associated reference material that it appears you did not read.  Now they aren't real?

 Oil companies push agendas to maximize profit so obviously the numbers of oil barrels sold in the world are fabricated.  You might believe billions of barrels of oil have been used but I don't. Is that an acceptable answer to you?

 Do you really think there is no way to calculate an estimate of how many males in McIntosh's demographic have been vaccinated?  If not why do you believe Your own source material that analyzes this very statistic?


 Lets make this simple - do you think Billions of humans have been vaccinated?
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Reply #13 - 12/07/22 at 18:28:32
 
Not All Americans
Not A Canadian
IDK how Many people in the world are jabbed.

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Reply #14 - 12/07/22 at 18:32:43
 
Where are the people who are TRYING to expose it getting Their numbers?
You want to pretend that since I can't Give An Exact number, that all the Died Suddenlies don't count. If YOU believe the jabs are so benign, and we weren't lied to at every step, good for you. I'm Telling You, I don't believe it. The numbers are not readily available, but observed reality doesn't look like what they told us.
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