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Reply #15 - 09/21/21 at 05:13:41
 
Test your kick stand and clutch switches, those will cut spark
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Reply #16 - 11/01/21 at 17:23:26
 
Ok, looks like the problem is a fried CDI ECU. Not sure how it went bad but I will be replacing with a part from eBay (wish me luck) as Suzuki does not have any in stock and do not have an estimated time available due to coronavirus
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Reply #17 - 11/01/21 at 18:34:48
 
Leaving the key on can cook one
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Reply #18 - 11/01/21 at 20:52:37
 
Did you check your battery? My 2011 had an old poorly maintained AMG battery when I bought it, and the previous owner had installed a slightly oversized to run accessory plug for a heated jacket for winter riding. Bike always ran sketchy until finally battery crapped out from lack of maintenance charging. With new battery it runs much better.
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Reply #19 - 03/06/22 at 22:18:40
 
Oh boy here we go, had to write a letter to Suzuki Motor USA Just to get my cdi block. Didn’t even have an eta from the dealer. Anyways, I finally got my part. Replaced it, and now it’s clicking and turning over. Gonna try and find what’s wrong on Tuesday. I’m thinking it might need some serious help
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Reply #20 - 03/06/22 at 23:28:48
 
You are fighting yourself if you don't have a healthy, fully charged battery in it.
And When you crank it for a while, not seconds, not a minute,, but when you have challenged the battery hard
And it doesn't start
Charge it.
You can get a test light now that has a digital readout.
Watching the voltage under load is important. If it's down around ten point five, it's not going to fire the plug.
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Reply #21 - 03/13/22 at 16:39:53
 
Battery was dead lol, I charged it, made sure all my connections were secure. I am still not getting a spark. I have a new plug, it isn’t showing up on the voltmeter… could the new plug be bad? Idk if there a better way to test the plug specifically but I’ve tested the wires and the boot and they both seem within range.

I’m at a loss, no idea where to go next. Any help would be appreciated greatly  Grin
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Reply #22 - 03/13/22 at 16:41:19
 
SoC wrote on 11/01/21 at 20:52:37:
Did you check your battery? My 2011 had an old poorly maintained AMG battery when I bought it, and the previous owner had installed a slightly oversized to run accessory plug for a heated jacket for winter riding. Bike always ran sketchy until finally battery crapped out from lack of maintenance charging. With new battery it runs much better.


Bike isn’t even starting, the battery may not be great but I’m not even getting a spark
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Reply #23 - 03/13/22 at 17:41:48
 
This is a typical result when you start throwing parts at a problem without proper diagnostics. The CDI is the LAST place I’d check. You might start by checking continuity of the spark plug lead, the primary and secondary resistance of the coil. Or how about this one, are you getting 12v at the lead of the coil. The cost of these simple checks are $0, and they will produce usefull information.

If you aren’t getting 12v at the coil, the question becomes “why”.
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Reply #24 - 03/13/22 at 19:59:45
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/06/22 at 23:28:48:
You are fighting yourself if you don't have a healthy, fully charged battery in it.
And When you crank it for a while, not seconds, not a minute,, but when you have challenged the battery hard
And it doesn't start
Charge it.
You can get a test light now that has a digital readout.
Watching the voltage under load is important. If it's down around ten point five, it's not going to fire the plug.

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Reply #25 - 03/14/22 at 07:24:02
 
Sakitiat wrote on 09/18/21 at 12:40:46:
I’ve tested the coil from power to trigger for 4.6 kohms. Seems normal. Tested the boot through the coil for 23 kohms which idk a lot about but I guess it might be a little high. Then I put the plug in and tested the whole thing for 27 ohms.


I went back through this thread looking for a tid-bit of info.

When the Primary coil is tested the result should be between 1-7 ohms. Are you sure that you got 4,600 ohms?

There are two leads that go to the coil. One is orange/white and the other is blue/yellow. With the ignition switch in the ON position you should see 12V on the orange/white wire.

If you do not have 12V then something in the chain is not correct. Most likely is the stop engine switch on the throttle quadrant. I would disassemble the the switch and clean the leads. You might also disconnect the CDI and inspect the orange/white wire for damage or corrosion.

I believe that the blue/yellow wire should show continuity to ground...I'm not certain on that because it is the trigger from the CDI.

Double check your resistance on the coil to make sure you didn't mean to type 4.6 ohms. Then check for 12v power. If both of those check out, then check your HT lead for continuity.

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Reply #26 - 03/15/22 at 13:13:36
 
Thank you, you guys are being extremely helpful. I’ll be working on it later today. Hopefully I’ll have an update by the end of the night.   Cheesy
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Reply #27 - 04/12/22 at 20:58:58
 
Gary_in_NJ wrote on 03/14/22 at 07:24:02:
When the Primary coil is tested the result should be between 1-7 ohms. Are you sure that you got 4,600 ohms?

There are two leads that go to the coil. One is orange/white and the other is blue/yellow. With the ignition switch in the ON position you should see 12V on the orange/white wire.

If you do not have 12V then something in the chain is not correct. Most likely is the stop engine switch on the throttle quadrant. I would disassemble the the switch and clean the leads. You might also disconnect the CDI and inspect the orange/white wire for damage or corrosion.

I believe that the blue/yellow wire should show continuity to ground...I'm not certain on that because it is the trigger from the CDI.

Double check your resistance on the coil to make sure you didn't mean to type 4.6 ohms. Then check for 12v power. If both of those check out, then check your HT lead for continuity.



Primary coil is reading 4.5 ohms, not kohms

I’m getting 11.4 volts on the orange/white wire with the key on

Spark plug is reading 4.4 ohms

How do I test the HT lead?  I tried touching one end of it to ground and am not getting anything…. The wire itself is good from the coil to the cdi block if that’s what you mean

Thanks, Sak
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Reply #28 - 04/13/22 at 02:16:44
 
Sakitiat wrote on 04/12/22 at 20:58:58:
I’m getting 11.4 volts on the orange/white wire with the key on


What does the voltage read when the starter button is pushed and the engine is turning over?
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Reply #29 - 04/13/22 at 08:24:22
 
Sakitiat wrote on 04/12/22 at 20:58:58:
I’m getting 11.4 volts on the orange/white wire with the key on



Assuming that your battery is healthy and has a static voltage of 12.6 or so, you have over a 1V drop between the battery and the coil. No Bueno. It should only be 0.5V or so. The likely source of the voltage drop is the STOP switch up by the throttle. Disassemble the housing and clean the contacts with some fine sandpaper.

Sakitiat wrote on 04/12/22 at 20:58:58:
How do I test the HT lead?  I tried touching one end of it to ground and am not getting anything…. The wire itself is good from the coil to the cdi block if that’s what you mean



Continuity is all you need to check on the lead. Move it around as you check it to ensure that there isn't an intermittent problem.
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