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Re: Therapeutic vs vaccine
Reply #15 - 08/15/21 at 12:55:39

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Eegore wrote on 08/14/21 at 16:30:31:

" ... But there was political gain to a degree,
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Can you expound on how the media used a illness as a political gain, 60 + years ago ?

Or what 'expert' said that happened ?

Or did you just make it up ?

Eegore wrote on 08/14/21 at 16:30:31:
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Considering the last case in the US was in 1949 I would say "mainstream media" has changed since then. But there was political gain to a degree, just the mediums were different..

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Re: Therapeutic vs vaccine
Reply #16 - 08/15/21 at 14:53:44

Serowbot wrote on 08/15/21 at 10:16:29:

"Vaccines will make you magnetic"
"Vaccines contain trackers"
"Vaccines will make you sterile"
"Only the unvaccinated will survive"
"God already gave me immunity"

These crackpot notions come from the same Facebook scientists that have said,
"The world is run by a cabal of Liberal pedophile baby eaters"
"Jews started California fires with space laser beams"
"Pizzagate"
...and, "Trump is really still the President"
"The election was a fraud"
"Biden is a hologram"

My Pilliow Guy and the Kraken hunters. Grin

The Right-Wing conspiracy nut fringe.
Who are these people protesting masks and vaccinations?
Trump supporters.
Why?... You tell me.

I'm supposed to answer for things I didn't say?

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Re: Therapeutic vs vaccine
Reply #17 - 08/15/21 at 15:09:09

I was just answering your question.
"I WONDER where some people got their idea to say no to the jab."

Vaccine avoidance came from internet crazies making up stuff.
It just happens that they are mostly Trump supporters.
This is why the pandemic is exploding in mostly red states, and red state governors are getting nutty about vaccines and masks.

We all need to be sensible and do what's right.
This isn't a right/left issue, it's a GLOBAL pandemic.
You got the jab, right? Me too.
We should all be fighting this thing. On the same side for once.
Peace

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Re: Therapeutic vs vaccine
Reply #18 - 08/15/21 at 17:01:32

Serowbot wrote on 08/15/21 at 15:09:09:

I was just answering your question.
"I WONDER where some people got their idea to say no to the jab."

Vaccine avoidance came from internet crazies making up stuff.
It just happens that they are mostly Trump supporters.
This is why the pandemic is exploding in mostly red states, and red state governors are getting nutty about vaccines and masks.

We all need to be sensible and do what's right.
This isn't a right/left issue, it's a GLOBAL pandemic.
You got the jab, right? Me too.
We should all be fighting this thing. On the same side for once.
Peace

Nope.You used it to take Trump out. Don’t pretend otherwise and don’t try to walk away from what the left is mostly responsible for.

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Re: Therapeutic vs vaccine
Reply #19 - 08/15/21 at 21:04:26

Can you expound on how the media used a illness as a political gain, 60 + years ago ?

I didn't say media used illness as a political gain. I said there was a degree of political gain and that the mediums used, as in the type of media used, was different. There was no Facebook then so political influence was not driven by that media.

"Or what 'expert' said that happened ?"

A few. First I went through the "Political epidemiology: strengthening socio-political analysis for mass immunisation - lessons from the smallpox and polio programmes" DOI: 10.1080/17441690701727850 from the National Library of Medicine.

Then I dug up an old book I had called "POX" by Michael Willrich and went though notes I took then. I had reached out to Willrish and spoke briefly via Skype specifically about the differences in public perception of the US Government during the Roosevelt Administration. We also discussed pesthouses.

By my count that is information taken from 7 experts. However we haven't defined specifically what an "expert" is so there's a quick loophole you can jump through if you want to discount the level of research I do.

"Or did you just make it up ?"

No.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Therapeutic vs vaccine Reply #20 - 08/15/21 at 21:26:08 The very FIRST antivaxers I heard were democrats. Because Trump..
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12847 Gender:	Re: Therapeutic vs vaccine Reply #21 - 08/16/21 at 05:05:13 That’s because back then, being anti-vax was the best strategy to get rid of Trump. When the variables changed, they switch strategies. Why? Science of course.
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Re: Therapeutic vs vaccine
Reply #22 - 08/16/21 at 08:13:57

None of the politics changes the difference between a vaccine and a therapeutic, and the application of therapeutic vaccine.

This would be a lot easier if people would document what "news" they are getting and from where at what times. I obviously get different news than you guys do, and none of that applied to any of my research about vaccines or therapeutics.

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