Eegore wrote on 07/15/19 at 17:47:43:


How dare you interject logic into this argument.
You obviously don't understand the situation.
If you agree with ANYTHING that Trump ever said or did, or disagree with ANYTHING  that Trump's critics have to say about it, you are a RACIST.
Probably a lot of other horrible,really bad, not nice other things too

Eegore wrote on 07/15/19 at 17:47:43:


I get what you mean Eegore.  Perhaps I should have worded it differently.

Anyone who defends his racist statements are probably also racist.


But let's keep it real - anyone can see that trump's tweet was racist.  Telling someone to "go back to the country they came from" is practically racism 101.

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Very often. That's not hypocrisy though. It's just observed reality. Liberals mostly all march to the same tune. The few who dare to go off the reservation are shamed, shunned, called names, and browbeaten back into line.

Both side do that. I have never said or pretended otherwise. But the left has honed that particular  political strategy into a fine art and it is a cornerstone of they way they try to frame the argument regardless of what the underlying issue  happens to be. They have been so adept at it for so long that many  members of the cult don't even realize that they are doing it.

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I'm not the one calling anyone else a "racist". Or any other name, for that matter.

  " But the left has honed that particular  political strategy into a fine art and it is a cornerstone of they way they try to frame the argument regardless of what the underlying issue  happens to be. They have been so adept at it for so long that many  members of the cult don't even realize that they are doing it."


Just calling it like I see it.

T And T Garage wrote on 07/16/19 at 09:29:53:


Calling me a hypocrite is not any different than calling me a racist. Same tactic.

"...you condemn those who speak in absolutes.

I've done nothing of the sort. The statement that has you so riled up is nothing more than an accurate description of what passes for political  debate nowadays in liberal circles.

"ORANGE MAN BAD!"

"YOU LIKE ORANGE MAN?"

"YOU NO GOOD TOO!"

And that's supposed to end the conversation.

oldNslow wrote on 07/16/19 at 10:45:05:



Well, I don't know how many times I have to say it - but this more about the hypocrisy than anything else.

You have, on many occasions labeled "all liberals" something or another.  That or said, "you libs...".

Those are all inclusive statements.  Those are absolutes.

You get peeved when someone lumps all trump supporters together, but that's OK that you do it?

No, sorry.  Level the playing field.  Or at the very least, grow a backbone and call out trump for his racism.


SMH

[quote] You have, on many occasions labeled "all liberals" something or another.  That or said, "you libs...".{/quote]

I have never labeled "all liberals" as anything other than "leftists" or "progressives", which terms are more or less interchangeable in current political lexicon and carry no particular negative connotations. They are simply descriptions of people with a particular political persuasion.

I don't believe I have ever used the phrase "you libs".


" But the left has honed that particular  political strategy into a fine art and it is a cornerstone of they way they try to frame the argument regardless of what the underlying issue  happens to be. They have been so adept at it for so long that many  members of the cult don't even realize that they are doing it."

I deliberately and carefully used the word "many" in the statement above. Not "all".


I think you are conflating what I've said with other peoples comments.

""If you agree with ANYTHING that Trump ever said or did, or disagree with ANYTHING  that Trump's critics have to say about it, you are a RACIST."

Is the statement above an accurate depiction of the way the left in the US right now attempts to frame any political debate or is it  not ?

I believe it is.