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Title: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/14/19 at 14:10:49 Quote:
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This is our President. He represents us. He represents them. He should anyway. Quote:
This is not my President. He doesn't represent me. He represents white racist America and proves it every day. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/14/19 at 14:59:39 Hey, not sure what you do for a living, but you're Main Stream Media material! (I'll bet CNN pays pretty well) First criteria is a burning hatred for President Donald Trump. That gives you the strange ability to selectively see only the words you want! Go find the all the comments in question, read the all the way through and tell me if was telling them to "go back where they came from" in the same sense in which you are untruthfully implying he did. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Eegore on 07/14/19 at 15:10:48 Trump - "So interesting to see ‘Progressive’ Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run, Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came, then come back and show us how it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!” |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Eegore on 07/14/19 at 15:19:13 It's pretty clear to me that he was saying they should/could return to the countries their families immigrated from. His mother is from Scotland. Is the comment racist? I can't say by my criteria that it is. Scotland is more economically viable than the countries the Congresswomen's families come from at this time so the comment has some merit. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/14/19 at 15:53:12 556760717667704F637069020 wrote:
See Eegore's comments. Now, accept trump's racism. Embrace it. Wallow in it. Fukcing own it! |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by raydawg on 07/14/19 at 16:01:39 Leave, like you promised......but first, get the quote in its entire context. RENT FREE ROPE A DOPE The man plays the deranged like a violin ;D Ja he is a buffoon, but you don't have to become a buffoon as well ;D ;D ;D ;D Going to be exciting watching the pretzels twist themselves in to shape ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by raydawg on 07/14/19 at 16:02:49 6F717E7F726F74691B0 wrote:
See Eegore's comments. Now, accept trump's racism. Embrace it. Wallow in it. Fukcing own it![/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Ya got a sister, is she twisted too? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/14/19 at 16:12:29 He was saying go back where you came from,... and even Pelosi, who's been trying to rein in the freshmen has called him out on it. A misguided statement, or slip of the tongue does not make a racist... We all get foot in mouth on occasion. Consistent words and actions add up to racism. Trump has a bankbook of hundreds, if not thousands, of behaviors tinged with racism. The time for tiptoeing is over,... this man is a racist. I don't honestly know if he realizes it, but if he doesn't, he's due for some self evaluation. I do think he's less racist than he projects, and that's even sadder, because it means he laying it on to pander to what he knows his base wants. Which is even more disturbing. Racial animus is the worst it has been in 50 years,... The only question is, is Trump riding the wave, or driving it. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by raydawg on 07/14/19 at 16:26:10 takes 2 to tango...... You seems to really be enjoying the dance..... Stag or drag? ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/14/19 at 17:32:06 It's pretty clear to me that he was saying they should/could return to the countries their families immigrated from. And do what afterwards Eegore? |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/14/19 at 17:36:05 3026312C34212C37430 wrote:
Most people don't see that as racist, they see it as a common sense statement. Bunch of leftist who do nothing but b!tch and moan about America under Trump get called out. How is that racist? |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/14/19 at 18:17:12 And by the way, just because you're a person of color, doesn't give you blanket immunity from criticism and freedom to play the racist card anytime you want. For example, its not racist to call that Jessie dude from Chicago who faked a crime a piece of $hit and make a public statement you'll never watch anything he's part of. That's judging someone on the content of their character. Trump correctly judged a few congresswoman and made a statement I suspect would have been the same if they were annoying and traitors from Sweden who got elected to Congress in F'd up districts. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/14/19 at 18:26:52 A President has no business telling elected representatives that they should go back where they came from. No matter their color. You won't see racism in anything Trump does. That's TDS ,.. or "Trump Blindness"... |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/14/19 at 18:48:47 Kamala Harris just labeled it properly,...(I couldn't recall the phrase myself) It's a racist trope... How many times have we seen in the past 2 or 3 years,.. some white person in a store, hotel, bus, or restaurant, ranting and yelling for someone to "go back where they came from" Always to a minority. "Go back to where you came from" is a racist trope. I've never seen a white person say that to a white person. Have you?... |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Eegore on 07/14/19 at 19:07:57 "And do what afterwards Eegore?" I thought it was very clear, what would me re-quoting the POTUS do to clarify further? As I said, Scotland is more economically viable and as such I consider the statement to have some merit. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/14/19 at 19:25:49 57445C41445242250 wrote:
See Eegore's comments. Now, accept trump's racism. Embrace it. Wallow in it. Fukcing own it![/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Ya got a sister, is she twisted too? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] No, I don't have a sister. Really poor attempt at a joke. But go ahead and not address the racist comment from trump... It's all cool. He's just a sinner, right? |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/14/19 at 19:31:43 033136272031261935263F540 wrote:
No, pretty much everyone sees it as racist. You're willfully ignorant to who and what trump is and the truth is - you simply can't defend this current fukc up from him. Here - read this, it's terribly appropriate today: An anguished question from a Trump supporter: "Why do liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?" The serious answer: Here’s what we really think about Trump supporters - the rich, the poor, the malignant and the innocently well-meaning, the ones who think and the ones who don't... That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought "Fine." That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay." That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem." That when he made up stories about seeing muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue." That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you chirped, "He sure knows me." That when you heard him illustrate his own character by telling that cute story about the elderly guest bleeding on the floor at his country club, the story about how he turned his back and how it was all an imposition on him, you said, "That's cool!" That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw. That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?" That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense." That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, "Yes!" That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!" That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!" That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be." That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius!" That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!" That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was the middle of water and you have said, "That makes sense." That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!" That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids. has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas - he explains that they’re just “animals” - and you say, “well, ok then.” That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise. What you don't get, Trump supporters in 2018, is that succumbing to frustration and thinking of you as stupid may be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also...hear me...charitable. Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are *less* flattering. *** Original post by Adam-Troy Castro. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/19 at 05:14:02 No, I'm not reading that. Trump's not going to apologize to the snowflake crowd over their faux outrage. His comments to two or three congresswomen in particular were spot on. Good for him. Love the "I'm sure Nancy can find travel arrangements" line! Which brings up the point if that particularly traitorous congresswoman from MN leaves, will her exhusband brother stick around or follow is bride/sister back? |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 05:47:28 0C3E39282F3E29163A29305B0 wrote:
Well then, I see you've decided to embrace his racism. Congratulations - you've now gone all the way down. (guess you can't defend trump from here on out about his racism) :D |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/19 at 06:28:02 It’s not racist. Just because you’ve redefined the word racism to something more along the lines of Ketchup that you can put on anything you want, doesn’t mean people with common sense agree with you. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 06:44:00 122027363120370824372E450 wrote:
Sorry, there simply is no defense of this being anything but racism. trump based his tweet on nothing but the color of the Congresswomens' skin. That's racism - period. Three of the four are natural born US citizens. But then, what do the trumpites care? His supporters are willfully ignorant to everything he does. Nothing is beneath him or them. You know, to some degree, it's kind of entertaining (if not more than a little depressing). He keeps doing more damage to himself. Just wait to see how this will play out in the debates. But what this really exposes is just how deplorable his supporters are. They will embrace him to the end (just like nixon's supporters). He's dragging the entire republican party with him. I guess us liberals should be glad - but we care about our democracy over our party and it's tough to watch one idiot take it down to his childish level on a daily basis. Thankfully, this four year national nightmare will be over soon. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/19 at 06:54:08 trump based his tweet on nothing but the color of the Congresswomens' skin. That's racism - period. No he didn't! You're either lying, infected with TDS, incapable of reading with comprehension, flat out ignorant or some variation there of. It was 100% based on their attacks on Trump's immigration policy. If one of them had been from Sweden, they'd had gotten the same. This is your ketchup racism. Put it on what yoy like, ignore it when you don't want it. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 07:01:06 023037262130271834273E550 wrote:
LOL - deny all you want, but to the majority of the US - you know, the ones who can see beyond the trump idiocy - can see that it was racist. But here's one for you. Let's say he didn't intend for it to be racist.... just pretend. How stupid of a human being do you have to be to post that in the first place - in this day and age? So, mark, it's one of two things. He's either racist, or stupid. Take your pick. (I personally think it's both) :D From my post you refused to read: What you don't get, Trump supporters, is that succumbing to frustration and thinking of you as stupid may be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also...hear me...charitable. Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are *less* flattering. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/19 at 07:09:50 LOL - deny all you want, but to the majority of the US - you know, the ones who can see beyond the trump idiocy - can see that it was racist. But here's one for you. Let's say he didn't intend for it to be racist.... just pretend. How stupid of a human being do you have to be to post that in the first place - in this day and age? I disagree. Wasn't stupid at all, it was the truth. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/15/19 at 07:25:34 If Trump made the exact comment directed towards white liberals from Nordic countries would that have been racist? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/15/19 at 07:27:53 It feeds the base red meat... but they are already voting for Trump. It outrages people of color,... boosting Democrat registrations and turnout. Thanks Trump. Keep it up, buddy. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/15/19 at 07:34:34 Trump says the victims of his racist tweets should apologize to him for calling him racist. How rich is that!?.... ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/19 at 08:31:28 5E485F425A4F42592D0 wrote:
you mean the way your side fed red meat to the guy who went to the detention center with guns and bombs? You mean like that? |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/19 at 08:32:43 1006110C14010C17630 wrote:
They should and so should you. calling people racist all the time for no reason it's pretty pathetic. It's the same reason why calling everyone you disagree with Hitler is ridiculous. If everyone's Hitler no one's Hitler. If everyone you disagree with is racist then no one is racist. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by verslagen1 on 07/15/19 at 08:39:16 4B555A5B564B504D3F0 wrote:
Did you read eegores reply? |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 09:19:14 536166777061764965766F040 wrote:
OK then, it was racist. Thanks for clearing that up. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 09:20:47 4F585E525D4D3F0 wrote:
That would never happen, because, you know - skin color. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 09:22:51 5D4E5958474A4C4E451A2B0 wrote:
Did you read eegores reply?[/quote] Yeah, I referenced it - what's your point? |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 09:27:58 Oh, just in case anyone forgot - AOC's grandparents and mother are from Puerto Rico. (now, what country is that again?.....) |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/15/19 at 10:00:59 677976777A677C61130 wrote:
That would never happen, because, you know - skin color. [/quote] Please note, no effort whatsoever to address the question. Also, the left uses the term racist so often it really is becoming a cliche'. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by verslagen1 on 07/15/19 at 10:03:02 2505070F1205600 wrote:
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/15/19 at 10:32:03 Whether you or I feel that the tweet was racist doesn't really matter much. That thousands if not millions found it to be racist will matter come election time. Many American's of color have heard this before,... and will take it personally. Thanks Trump,.. another win. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/19 at 11:27:14 Hate to break it to you but more don't think it's racist cause its not. All this faux outrage is helping, not hurting Trump. Put a picture of Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib next to Trump and ask all 300 million Americans to choose between them and Trump wins every time. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 11:35:04 2D3A3C303F2F5D0 wrote:
That would never happen, because, you know - skin color. [/quote] Please note, no effort whatsoever to address the question. Yes, it would be racist - but it would never happen - skin color. trump isn't smart enough to know that white people are the largest group of immigrants on this continent. Also, the left uses the term racist so often it really is becoming a cliche'. Not to people of color. Consider yourself luck, huh pro golfer? Best regards, [/quote] |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 11:36:56 687B6C6D727F797B702F1E0 wrote:
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Are you sure you read it and comprehended it?[/quote] Yeah, I comprehend it just fine. I (and probably 100 million others) read it differently. Again, what's your point? Is Eegore suddenly your voice of reason? My, how convenient and pathetic. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 11:43:49 754740515647506F435049220 wrote:
LMAO - not even close. Remind us again how he won the popular vote? Oh, right... he didn't. It's now getting funny to watch his deplorables come to his rescue. I wonder, if they find evidence of him having sex with underage girls if they'll change their mind? Probably not. SHM |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Eegore on 07/15/19 at 11:45:49 "Is Eegore suddenly your voice of reason? My, how convenient and pathetic." You have literally called me a voice of reason before on this very forum. Nobody however has called me the most attractive. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 11:55:52 6F4F4D45584F2A0 wrote:
LOL - Good one Eegore! Yes, I consider you a voice of reason. I don't think vers would say that. (I will not comment on looks) . :D |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by verslagen1 on 07/15/19 at 12:03:09 7F616E6F627F64790B0 wrote:
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Are you sure you read it and comprehended it?[/quote] Yeah, I comprehend it just fine. I (and probably 100 million others) read it differently. Again, what's your point? Is Eegore suddenly your voice of reason? My, how convenient and pathetic. [/quote] There's one thing I can count on is that Eegores opinion is researched and reasoned. But what comes out of the T&T Garage is nothing but pathetic Garbage. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 12:05:41 514255544B4640424916270 wrote:
Ouch, that really hurts vers... 'cause, you know... your opinion means so much to me.....ppfffftt ;D The only thing you've ever been right about was your (new found) opinion of Eegore. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/15/19 at 12:18:12 415F50515C415A47350 wrote:
That would never happen, because, you know - skin color. [/quote] Please note, no effort whatsoever to address the question. Yes, it would be racist - but it would never happen - skin color. trump isn't smart enough to know that white people are the largest group of immigrants on this continent. Also, the left uses the term racist so often it really is becoming a cliche'. Not to people of color. Consider yourself luck, huh pro golfer? Best regards, [/quote] [/quote] Why would it be racist? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/19 at 12:22:34 I wonder, if they find evidence of him having sex with underage girls if they'll change their mind? Probably not. Based on other comments of yours, I would think that'd be right up your alley. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 12:23:36 3D2A2C202F3F4D0 wrote:
Tell you what pro golfer - let's not waste time. Why don't you tell me why you don't think it'd be racist, 'mkay? SMH This back and forth makes no sense. What trump tweeted can be explained in one of 3 ways. 1. It's racist. 2. He's too stupid to know it could very easily be considered racist. 3. Both of the above. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 12:24:26 744641505746516E425148230 wrote:
Excuse me? How's that mark? Try to explain yourself. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/15/19 at 12:33:06 5F414E4F425F44592B0 wrote:
Tell you what pro golfer - let's not waste time. Why don't you tell me why you don't think it'd be racist, 'mkay? SMH This back and forth makes no sense. What trump tweeted can be explained in one of 3 ways. 1. It's racist. 2. He's too stupid to know it could very easily be considered racist. 3. Both of the above. [/quote] I challenged your position and you could not provide an argument, and you punted. Regardless, the premise of Trump's position is they believe in failed policies. When identity of the reciepent of his comments changes, you have no leg to stand on. Henceforth, it is not a racist statement. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 12:58:29 4651575B5444360 wrote:
Tell you what pro golfer - let's not waste time. Why don't you tell me why you don't think it'd be racist, 'mkay? SMH This back and forth makes no sense. What trump tweeted can be explained in one of 3 ways. 1. It's racist. 2. He's too stupid to know it could very easily be considered racist. 3. Both of the above. [/quote] I challenged your position and you could not provide an argument, and you punted. No, pro golfer - I put the onus on you. I know what racism is - you seem to have a different idea. If you didn't read the meaning of it that I posted, that's not my fault. Regardless, the premise of Trump's position is they believe in failed policies. When identity of the reciepent of his comments changes, you have no leg to stand on. Henceforth, it is not a racist statement. Well then, I see you're admitting that he's stupid then. Nicely done. Oh, and by the way - AOC'd from Puerto Rico, so..... Best regards, [/quote] |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/19 at 13:55:45 6B757A7B766B706D1F0 wrote:
Excuse me? How's that mark? Try to explain yourself.[/quote] You think parents who dress little kids up in drag is okay. That’s kinda creepy. I need a shower after talking to you... |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 14:13:50 4A787F6E69786F507C6F761D0 wrote:
Excuse me? How's that mark? Try to explain yourself.[/quote] You think parents who dress little kids up in drag is okay. That’s kinda creepy. I need a shower after talking to you...[/quote] Ah, I see. So, as I've stated, I've never seen those kids you speak of dressing up in drag and twerking. Have you? And if you have, why? As an aside - I find it funny that conservatives get so up in arms about things like, which bathroom people use. I can't speak for them, but I for one don't care. You see, I don't use a public restroom and then look to see what the person next to me is (or isn't) sporting... Maybe conservatives do? I duunno... :D |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/19 at 14:21:43 I don't have to see it to know it's messed up. You don't have to see it and think it's okay. That's creepy in my book. And changing the subject in an attempt to deflect is more creepy. I'd just as soon think of you as only a semi-Communist, leftist, American hating, Sanders loving liberal and leave it at that.... |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/15/19 at 14:43:20 2C323D3C312C372A580 wrote:
Thank you, I won that round! Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 14:46:05 724047565140576844574E250 wrote:
So, you've never seen this? You've only heard about it? Then how do you know it's happening (especially the "twerking")? Are you making it all up? If a parent wants to let their kids dress up in drag - who cares? I don't think it's in good taste, but if the kid wants to look like a girl, BFD. Same goes with the redneck's kids dressing up in camo, holding a bible, a rifle and standing in front of a confederate flag. Sad, but not illegal. I wonder how you feel about people like honey boo-boo and her mama june? Those people are messed up and almost force their kids to do those pageants. I'd say it's those folks who border on child abuse more than a parent who lets their kids dress up. Like I said, I've never seen any of what you brought up - I was going on your word. But it seems now that you're making it up. I guess I should have known better. So, moot point. You have no proof that those "drag kids" even exist, therefore you have no real argument. Case dismissed. LOL . |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 14:46:57 2235333F3020520 wrote:
Thank you, I won that round! Best regards,[/quote] Sure, if you consider admitting that trump is stupid. Here's your trophy! |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/15/19 at 14:55:40 So, are you admitting that these twerking drag babies are a straw man? How do you get to self righteous shame someone for having no idea what you're talking about?. How did we get here from the OP? Trump made a racist tweet attacking four minority women Congresswomen. That's a fact. Now he wants an apology. That a joke. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 14:56:41 3A2C3B263E2B263D490 wrote:
True Sero - thanks for the course correction. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/19 at 15:03:05 332D22232E332835470 wrote:
So, you've never seen this? You've only heard about it? Then how do you know it's happening (especially the "twerking")? Are you making it all up? If a parent wants to let their kids dress up in drag - who cares? I don't think it's in good taste, but if the kid wants to look like a girl, BFD. Same goes with the redneck's kids dressing up in camo, holding a bible, a rifle and standing in front of a confederate flag. Sad, but not illegal. I wonder how you feel about people like honey boo-boo and her mama june? Those people are messed up and almost force their kids to do those pageants. I'd say it's those folks who border on child abuse more than a parent who lets their kids dress up. Like I said, I've never seen any of what you brought up - I was going on your word. But it seems now that you're making it up. I guess I should have known better. So, moot point. You have no proof that those "drag kids" even exist, therefore you have no real argument. Case dismissed. LOL . [/quote] Creepy.... |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/15/19 at 15:43:03 You have no proof that those "drag kids" even exist, therefore you have no real argument. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxdvOLdG_34&t=65s[/media] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxdvOLdG_34&t=65s Yes, you own it..... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/15/19 at 15:56:59 Great,.. you found a kid on youtube dressing in drag... Trump is still a racist. Attacking women of color that were duly elected. You got no problem with that? |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 15:57:36 5A4D4B4748582A0 wrote:
Whoa! Great story of acceptance! (that's a concept that conservatives don't quite get) I'll gladly own this kid's attitudes - who encourages everyone to be who they are. Again, it's funny that you tried to "get me" with this, and wind up proving my point for me. His parents aren't forcing him to do this (unlike some of those beauty pageant moms), in fact, it's just the opposite. They support their child (another concept that gets by many conservatives). So hey - thanks for proving my point pro golfer! |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/15/19 at 16:01:20 687E69746C79746F1B0 wrote:
What does their race have to do with anything? They should get a free pass the rest of their lives because they aren't white? The one downplayed 9/11"some people did something" and the other one called him "m'fer in public". He can attack them if so chooses..... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/15/19 at 16:03:43 2E303F3E332E35285A0 wrote:
Whoa! Great story of acceptance! (that's a concept that conservatives don't quite get) I'll gladly own this kid's attitudes - who encourages everyone to be who they are. Again, it's funny that you tried to "get me" with this, and wind up proving my point for me. His parents aren't forcing him to do this (unlike some of those beauty pageant moms), in fact, it's just the opposite. They support their child (another concept that gets by many conservatives). So hey - thanks for proving my point pro golfer![/quote] Like I said, you own it. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 16:10:48 5047414D4252200 wrote:
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 16:15:00 Like we said - pretty much everyone considers trump a racist: Theresa May condemns Donald Trump over racist tweet in unprecedented attack: 'Completely unacceptable' http://news.yahoo.com/theresa-may-condemns-donald-trump-104300470.html LA Times Editorial Board Skewers 'Bigot-In-Chief' Trump For Racist Tirade http://news.yahoo.com/los-angeles-times-editorial-board-trump-bigot-in-chief-182613064.html |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 16:24:51 And now trump triples down: Trump Smeared a Member of Congress as an Al Qaeda Sympathizer on the White House Lawn TRUMP: "I mean I look at the one, I look at Omar -- I don't know, I never met her -- I hear the way she talks about Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda has killed many Americans ... these are people that in my opinion hate our country ... they can leave ... they have to love our country." http://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-smeared-member-congress-al-200900039.html trump is a racist. If you support trump - so are you. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/15/19 at 16:31:04 647A757479647F62100 wrote:
Who cares what they have to say? Really.... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 16:33:18 6077717D7262100 wrote:
Who cares what they have to say? Really.... Best regards,[/quote] Well the righties sure don't. But all this press - it's really gonna catch up to the orange one. ;D Remember what I've been saying all along - trump is his own worst enemy. He's proving that every day. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/15/19 at 16:33:26 2F313E3F322F34295B0 wrote:
And that is coming from a guy who supports people who go to 'protest' in masks with steel pipes and bike locks. You have become what you so despise. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/15/19 at 16:34:34 Voters |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/15/19 at 16:36:54 5C4B4D414E5E2C0 wrote:
No pro golfer, that's coming from a guy who agrees that fascism is bad. I'm the same guy that has repeated ad nauseum that I don't condone any of the violence from antifa - only their message. Do I need to use a different font or something before that sinks in? SMH BTW, how's it feel to support trump, an on-the-record racist? |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/15/19 at 17:25:39 726C63626F726974060 wrote:
No pro golfer, that's coming from a guy who agrees that fascism is bad. I'm the same guy that has repeated ad nauseum that I don't condone any of the violence from antifa - only their message. Do I need to use a different font or something before that sinks in? SMH BTW, how's it feel to support trump, an on-the-record racist?[/quote] I did not say you support violence, I said you support people who go to 'protest' in masks with steel pipes and bike locks. Intimidation is fair game as long as it is within the bounds of the law, correct? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Eegore on 07/15/19 at 17:47:43 trump is a racist. If you support trump - so are you. I find this to be fundamentally incorrect given the broad spectrum that the position of POTUS holds. Those in military service that are obliged to support and follow the orders of the POTUS are not racist by military association. Those in civilian economic futures development who receive funding increase due to economic material increase are not racist by employment benefit association. Those who vote for Trump because they feel that Hillary committed more crime than Trump are not racist by vote-limiting association. Calling another human racist because they support the professional activities of another is like calling someone gay because they support the business decisions of RuPaul. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/19 at 18:58:05 Wait! RuPaul is gay?!!!! |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by oldNslow on 07/15/19 at 19:39:44 0424262E3324410 wrote:
How dare you interject logic into this argument. You obviously don't understand the situation. If you agree with ANYTHING that Trump ever said or did, or disagree with ANYTHING that Trump's critics have to say about it, you are a RACIST. Probably a lot of other horrible,really bad, not nice other things too ::) |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/16/19 at 08:04:54 6B7C7A7679691B0 wrote:
No pro golfer, that's coming from a guy who agrees that fascism is bad. I'm the same guy that has repeated ad nauseum that I don't condone any of the violence from antifa - only their message. Do I need to use a different font or something before that sinks in? SMH BTW, how's it feel to support trump, an on-the-record racist?[/quote] I did not say you support violence, I said you support people who go to 'protest' in masks with steel pipes and bike locks. Intimidation is fair game as long as it is within the bounds of the law, correct? Correct. (but there is no accounting for manners - i.e. shouting at someone in a restaurant) Best regards,[/quote] |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/16/19 at 08:08:49 6B4B49415C4B2E0 wrote:
I get what you mean Eegore. Perhaps I should have worded it differently. Anyone who defends his racist statements are probably also racist. But let's keep it real - anyone can see that trump's tweet was racist. Telling someone to "go back to the country they came from" is practically racism 101. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/16/19 at 08:10:39 66585955475B5A340 wrote:
How dare you interject logic into this argument. You obviously don't understand the situation. If you agree with ANYTHING that Trump ever said or did, or disagree with ANYTHING that Trump's critics have to say about it, you are a RACIST. Probably a lot of other horrible,really bad, not nice other things too ::)[/quote] LOL - pot, meet kettle! old - how many times have you lumped in all the liberals together as one? C'mon - don't be so obviously hypocritical. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by oldNslow on 07/16/19 at 08:54:56 Quote:
Very often. That's not hypocrisy though. It's just observed reality. Liberals mostly all march to the same tune. The few who dare to go off the reservation are shamed, shunned, called names, and browbeaten back into line. Both side do that. I have never said or pretended otherwise. But the left has honed that particular political strategy into a fine art and it is a cornerstone of they way they try to frame the argument regardless of what the underlying issue happens to be. They have been so adept at it for so long that many members of the cult don't even realize that they are doing it. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/16/19 at 09:11:39 615F5E52405C5D330 wrote:
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by oldNslow on 07/16/19 at 09:24:40 Quote:
I'm not the one calling anyone else a "racist". Or any other name, for that matter. " But the left has honed that particular political strategy into a fine art and it is a cornerstone of they way they try to frame the argument regardless of what the underlying issue happens to be. They have been so adept at it for so long that many members of the cult don't even realize that they are doing it." Just calling it like I see it. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/16/19 at 09:29:53 1E20212D3F23224C0 wrote:
"If you agree with ANYTHING that Trump ever said or did, or disagree with ANYTHING that Trump's critics have to say about it, you are a RACIST." This is the statement I'm referring to old. You speak in absolutes about liberals, then you condemn those who speak in absolutes. Hypocrisy. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by oldNslow on 07/16/19 at 10:45:05 5C424D4C415C475A280 wrote:
"If you agree with ANYTHING that Trump ever said or did, or disagree with ANYTHING that Trump's critics have to say about it, you are a RACIST." This is the statement I'm referring to old. You speak in absolutes about liberals, then you condemn those who speak in absolutes. Hypocrisy. [/quote] Calling me a hypocrite is not any different than calling me a racist. Same tactic. "...you condemn those who speak in absolutes. I've done nothing of the sort. The statement that has you so riled up is nothing more than an accurate description of what passes for political debate nowadays in liberal circles. "ORANGE MAN BAD!" "YOU LIKE ORANGE MAN?" "YOU NO GOOD TOO!" And that's supposed to end the conversation. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by verslagen1 on 07/16/19 at 11:26:20 504E41404D504B56240 wrote:
"If you agree with ANYTHING that antifa ever said or did, or disagree with ANYTHING that antifa's critics have to say about it, you are the same as antifa." You speak in absolutes about conservatives, then you condemn those who speak in absolutes. Hypocrisy. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/16/19 at 11:30:52 6A5455594B5756380 wrote:
"If you agree with ANYTHING that Trump ever said or did, or disagree with ANYTHING that Trump's critics have to say about it, you are a RACIST." This is the statement I'm referring to old. You speak in absolutes about liberals, then you condemn those who speak in absolutes. Hypocrisy. [/quote] Calling me a hypocrite is not any different than calling me a racist. Same tactic. "...you condemn those who speak in absolutes. I've done nothing of the sort. The statement that has you so riled up is nothing more than an accurate description of what passes for political debate nowadays in liberal circles. "ORANGE MAN BAD!" "YOU LIKE ORANGE MAN?" "YOU NO GOOD TOO!" And that's supposed to end the conversation. [/quote] Well, I don't know how many times I have to say it - but this more about the hypocrisy than anything else. You have, on many occasions labeled "all liberals" something or another. That or said, "you libs...". Those are all inclusive statements. Those are absolutes. You get peeved when someone lumps all trump supporters together, but that's OK that you do it? No, sorry. Level the playing field. Or at the very least, grow a backbone and call out trump for his racism. SMH |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/16/19 at 11:36:12 And even when called out on the mat, he refuses to admit he's wrong.... President Trump took to Twitter on Tuesday morning to argue that prior comments he made about four Democratic congresswomen of color were not racist. “Those Tweets were NOT Racist. I don’t have a Racist bone in my body!” Trump wrote. It was Trump’s latest response to an uproar after a string of tweets he sent last Sunday, when he declared that a quartet of prominent progressive congresswomen of color “originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe.” “Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came,” Trump’s thread continued. “Then come back and show us how it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough.” All four of the congresswomen — Reps. Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Ilhan Omar of Minnesota — are American citizens. Omar, a Somali refugee, became a citizen in 2000. The other three lawmakers were born in the U.S. Ocasio-Cortez quickly responded to Trump’s tweet on Tuesday, saying he has a “racist mind” and “racist heart.” http://news.yahoo.com/those-tweets-were-not-racist-trump-lashes-out-at-house-resolution-condemning-his-attacks-on-congresswomen-151113515.html This is not going to end well.... |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by oldNslow on 07/16/19 at 12:13:14 [quote] You have, on many occasions labeled "all liberals" something or another. That or said, "you libs...".{/quote] I have never labeled "all liberals" as anything other than "leftists" or "progressives", which terms are more or less interchangeable in current political lexicon and carry no particular negative connotations. They are simply descriptions of people with a particular political persuasion. I don't believe I have ever used the phrase "you libs". " But the left has honed that particular political strategy into a fine art and it is a cornerstone of they way they try to frame the argument regardless of what the underlying issue happens to be. They have been so adept at it for so long that many members of the cult don't even realize that they are doing it." I deliberately and carefully used the word "many" in the statement above. Not "all". I think you are conflating what I've said with other peoples comments. ""If you agree with ANYTHING that Trump ever said or did, or disagree with ANYTHING that Trump's critics have to say about it, you are a RACIST." Is the statement above an accurate depiction of the way the left in the US right now attempts to frame any political debate or is it not ? I believe it is. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/16/19 at 12:54:48 Not true. If you agree with Trump that Big Mac's are delicious, I won't say it's racist. If you agree that there are some fine people in the NeoNazi movement I will. ...but,... at this point and with the racist baggage Trump now has,... to support him as President is supporting a racist. A President, regardless of Party, is supposed represent us all. A racist cannot do that. Trump is not deserving of the office. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by oldNslow on 07/16/19 at 13:19:56 Quote:
Trump never said that. Trump said that there were some very fine people attending the March that the comment you have taken out of context refers to. There likely were. Not everyone who objects to the removal of historical monuments is a neo Nazi. "" But the left has honed that particular political strategy into a fine art and it is a cornerstone of the way they try to frame the argument regardless of what the underlying issue happens to be. They have been so adept at it for so long that many members of the cult don't even realize that they are doing it." "with the racist baggage Trump now has,... to support him as President is supporting a racist." Even if Trump is a racist, which I don't believe he actually is, supporting someone who is accused of being a racist, for reasons having nothing to do with race, is not the same as BEING a racist oneself. However your comment is a pretty good example of exactly what I was taking with TT about. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by raydawg on 07/16/19 at 13:40:49 reposting from a comment section elsewhere: July 15 2019 - ”An internal Democratic poll that is circulating among party leaders shows Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York and Ilhan Omar of Minnesota might be a liability to their party in the 2020 election. The poll, whose details were published by Axios on Sunday found that 74% of those polled recognized Ocasio-Cortez, while only 22% of them had a positive view of her. Additionally, 53% of those polled recognized Omar, while only 9% had a favorable view of her. A top Democrat involved in the 2020 congressional races said these numbers risk tipping seats in the 2020 election. "If all voters hear about is AOC, it could put the majority at risk," they said. "[S]he's getting all the news and defining everyone else’s races." ———— Expose the Suicide Vest Squad for what it really is & then force Pelosi & moderate Dems to defend the indefensible! Trump is crazy like a Fox I can't vouch for this, just simply sharing it :) |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/16/19 at 14:49:54 That poll, was of white , males, with no college degree. Trump's strongest demographic. Virtually his only strong demographic. So, the leaning is to be expected. Clearly some kind of sabotage leak. ....but probably a legitimate number. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by raydawg on 07/16/19 at 15:01:39 Of folk who willingly answer polls........ ;D |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/16/19 at 15:11:53 3B28302D283E2E490 wrote:
That too. I'm a hanger upper. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/16/19 at 16:14:38 4B5D4A574F5A574C380 wrote:
Again - A-MEN!! |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/16/19 at 17:18:25 5345524F57424F54200 wrote:
I beg to differ, he is the commander-in-chief and his duties are to direct the executive branch of the federal government. In short, the power includes the execution and enforcement of federal law. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by raydawg on 07/16/19 at 17:25:02 2F392E332B3E33285C0 wrote:
That too. I'm a hanger upper.[/quote] +1 |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by raydawg on 07/16/19 at 17:25:25 We need a popcorn break ;D |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by raydawg on 07/16/19 at 17:28:17 5F484E424D5D2F0 wrote:
I beg to differ, he is the commander-in-chief and his duties are to direct the executive branch of the federal government. In short, the power includes the execution and enforcement of federal law. Best regards, [/quote] You mean, elections have consequences ????? ;) Yes, lets work together.....er, not so much for Uncle Joe when he worked with some southerners in his own party ;D ;D ;D ;D Lots of hurt...... So little butts ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by oldNslow on 07/16/19 at 18:58:02 Quote:
No one is "deserving" of the office of President. One earns it, by winning an election. "Deserve's got nothing to do with it." - William Munny |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by eau de sauvage on 07/16/19 at 20:54:00 Here's an interesting insight into the House fight over Pelosi's remarks. https://www.vox.com/2019/7/16/20696932/nancy-pelosi-trump-tweet-racist-chaos Here's an interesting excerpt... Though Jefferson’s parliamentary manual was first used and then later discarded by the US Senate, the House adopted also it in 1837 — and they’ve continued to use it. The part of Jefferson’s parliamentary manual that applies to the current situation with Pelosi was adopted from the British Parliament; members of Parliament could not “speak irreverently or seditiously against the King.” Basically, they couldn’t insult the monarch on the floor of Parliament. Bejeezus, still following your previous monarch. Are you watching WM, and Ray |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by eau de sauvage on 07/16/19 at 21:03:02 That final leg of Ryan's political journey had been the most exhausting. Once upon a time, he had been mortified at the prospect of Trump as the GOP nominee, spending much of 2015 and 2016 telling anyone who would listen that the reality TV star was immoral and unfit for office. Even after Trump vanquished the Republican primary field, Ryan refused to muffle his objections, at one point memorably rebuking the party’s new standard-bearer for making “the textbook definition of a racist comment.” Yet when the time came for choosing on November 8, 2016 — to risk his speakership by continuing to hold the new president accountable or preserve his standing in the party by taking a vow of silence — Ryan did not think twice. There was historic work to be done, he told friends, and quarreling with Trump would prove wholly counterproductive. He could not afford to be both the speaker of the House and the conscience of the Republican Party. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/16/donald-trump-paul-ryan-feud-227360 |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/16/19 at 21:13:04 Waahh, zero grasp of what someone is saying, go straight for the biggest butthurt Bullshit, ignore the point, pretend it's something bad, have your pretend emotional meltdown. Phhht,, Liars lie to themselves Believe BULLSHIT And put on an emotional show.. Fuuuukk.. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by eau de sauvage on 07/16/19 at 22:34:54 Howya doin' JoG, your meds have obviously worn off so go and top up and repost what it is you are trying to say. Seriously I am interested to hear what you think is 'the point' that everyone apparently is 'ignoring'. Because you need to reveal what is going on in your fevered imagination, because we ordinary mortals are not mind readers. Not that I'd want to read your mind, just a snippet causes enough neuralgia as it is. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/17/19 at 09:58:47 Federal Law Says 'Go Back To Where You Came From' Counts As Discrimination Quote:
“Go back to where you came from”, is racist. Anyone other than the President could be fired for saying this to an employee or coworker. Presidents are above the law,... that's why we have impeachment. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by oldNslow on 07/17/19 at 10:12:52 "EEOC cites “go back to where you came from” as a classic form of discrimination that violates civil rights. The President’s bigoted words are so contrary to who we are as a country that we literally have laws against them. We literally have thousands upon thousands of laws which are just as stupid as this one. ;D I wonder if this one has ever been tested in court. I think it violates the First Amendment. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." The first amendment applies to the POTUS. He's a US citizen too. Of course I'm aware that our lawmakers in DC mostly don't really give a flying Fook about the Constitution anymore. It's just an annoyance to be circumvented or ignored Unless someone tells a member of the Trash Talkin' Squad to STFU. Then they are all about "Muh First Amendment Rights !!!" ;D |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by verslagen1 on 07/17/19 at 10:50:42 Besides, congress usually makes themselves immune to all laws. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/17/19 at 14:40:23 “Go back to where you came from”, is racist. I have yet to here any rationale why this is racist? I have only heard it is, if you support Trump you are a racist, if you support trump you support a racist. Feel free to elaborate..... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/19 at 15:12:09 657274787767150 wrote:
Seriously, you really don't know why? Amazing.... Well pro golfer, the idiot in chief based his comments solely on the fact that the women he referred to were not white. Have you seen how much Bernie Sanders has got on him? Has he ever once told Bernie to "go back to where you came from"? No. When you make a statement like that - completely based on a person's skin - it's racist. Especially given the fact that all but one of those women are natural born US citizens. Clear? |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/17/19 at 15:19:44 Based on that reasoning enormous portions of our population are absolved from all criticism. That logic has no merit because if the intended recipient of the criticism were white it would make no difference what-so-ever. Also, Trump has called your homeboy plenty of names. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/19 at 15:28:31 2334323E3121530 wrote:
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by oldNslow on 07/17/19 at 15:48:54 Quote:
Really? Below is the statement in Question. Show me exactly where in that paragraph Trump said anything about skin color. "So interesting to see ‘Progressive’ Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run, Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came, then come back and show us how it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!” The way I read that, he is calling out some "Progressive Democrat women, whom he doesn't even identify by name, by the way, for being unamerican. Oh wait. It doesn't matter what he actually said. What matters is how one "feels" about what one "feels" he must have meant by what one "feels" he said , even though he actually didn't say that. That about right? |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/19 at 15:59:36 536D6C60726E6F010 wrote:
No, in fact it's completely wrong. But you wanna play this game - fine. trump ran his whole campaign on how "terrible" the US had become. Remember, "Make America Great Again"? Does that ring a bell? Well then, why the hell didn't he just go back where he came from then, huh? (borrowed this analogy from the daily show) See how that works old? Is any of this sinking in????? SMH |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/17/19 at 16:00:34 746A656469746F72000 wrote:
[/quote] You have used the race card to defend Barry on this forum. Also, Trump called Bernie crazy, a maniac, and the nutty professor. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/19 at 16:05:20 2F383E323D2D5F0 wrote:
[/quote] You have used the race card to defend Barry on this forum. Not once have I used the race card to defend Obama. I've pointed out how donny was a racist for the birther movement. But I defy you to find an example of me defending Obama with the race card. Also, Trump called Bernie crazy, a maniac, and the nutty professor. Yes, he has. But that's not based on his race, is it? Why is that so hard to understand? Racism is about RACE, not criticism. Best regards,[/quote] |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/17/19 at 16:11:59 637D72737E637865170 wrote:
Will do! Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/17/19 at 16:18:20 6374727E7161130 wrote:
Will do! Best regards,[/quote] Well that didn't take long. Started by Serowbot | Post by T And T Garage pg wrote on 06/04/19 at 11:53:29: T And T Garage wrote on 06/04/19 at 08:42:17: pg wrote on 06/03/19 at 19:18:00: T And T Garage wrote on 06/03/19 at 18:56:24: you know the only reason he was questioned was the color of his skin and his name. Sounds like an opinion to me, can you substantiate that statement? Best regards, No, it's not an opinion - there's no need to substantiate. You must be having an off day when you start using the argument "because I said so." Best regards, Not at all. There simply isn't a need to substantiate. In the history of presidential candidates or seated presidents, can you name me one single instance where there was a such a movement to obtain that person's birth certificate? The answer is no. And why? Because it was racially motivated - due to the color of his skin and his name. You can deny that all you want, but then you can also deny that water isn't wet. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/19 at 16:26:39 3027212D2232400 wrote:
Will do! Best regards,[/quote] Well that didn't take long. Started by Serowbot | Post by T And T Garage pg wrote on 06/04/19 at 11:53:29: T And T Garage wrote on 06/04/19 at 08:42:17: pg wrote on 06/03/19 at 19:18:00: T And T Garage wrote on 06/03/19 at 18:56:24: you know the only reason he was questioned was the color of his skin and his name. Sounds like an opinion to me, can you substantiate that statement? Best regards, No, it's not an opinion - there's no need to substantiate. You must be having an off day when you start using the argument "because I said so." Best regards, Not at all. There simply isn't a need to substantiate. In the history of presidential candidates or seated presidents, can you name me one single instance where there was a such a movement to obtain that person's birth certificate? The answer is no. And why? Because it was racially motivated - due to the color of his skin and his name. You can deny that all you want, but then you can also deny that water isn't wet. Best regards, [/quote] LMAO - so, pointing out racism is "playing the race card"? Thats awesome!!! Are you serious??? pro golfer, let me explain what "playing the race card" is. If you accused Obama had committed a crime - oh, let's say obstruction. If I then said - "oh, you're doing that because he's black" - THAT'S playing the race card. Pointing out that the entire "birther movement" was entirely base on his race is not. So, now go back and find a time that I accused you or anyone of racism without justification. Go find a time when I took something that had nothing to do with race and I applied that excuse. While you're at it - try to explain how the birther movement was NOT based on Obama's race. Why has he been the only president ever challenged in that way? You know, I was going to say "nice try" - but it wasn't. In your words - piss poor. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/17/19 at 16:44:33 5C424D4C415C475A280 wrote:
You said he should not be under any scrutiny because the attention he received was racially motivated. This clearly demonstrates prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone because they are of a different race. Yes, you played the race card! Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by oldNslow on 07/17/19 at 17:08:53 'Trump ran his whole campaign on how "terrible" the US had become. Remember, "Make America Great Again"? Does that ring a bell?" Yup. And he got elected because he promised to try to fix it. The same thing he suggested the "progressive democrat women do. First in their ancestral homelands, and then when they were done with that, come show us Americans how to do it. Besides, the "go back where you came from" became an offensive trope in reference to the descendants of Black american slaves. None of these women are that. AOC is Puerto Rican, Omar is from Somalia, and Tlaib is Palestinian. I'd never even heard of the fourth one that Trump was supposedly also insulting so I don't know anything about her heritage.Just grabbing onto the skirts of the better known three I suppose. Quote:
Yup. Your outrage, and your implication that there must be something wrong with me because I'm not outraged.. Quote:
tells me that this: "Oh wait. It doesn't matter what he actually said. What matters is how one "feels" about what one "feels" he must have meant by what one "feels" he said , even though he actually didn't say that." was pretty much spot on. You might want to quit Shaking Your Head before you hurt yourself too. ;) |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/17/19 at 17:16:28 Is it racist to investigate Ilhan for tax, marriage, and immigration fraud? https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/must-see-video-alpha-news-exposes-rep-ilhan-omar-on-tax-marriage-and-immigration-fraud-could-result-in-deportation/ What a shame it would be in the DOJ looked into those matters..... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/19 at 17:22:42 2631373B3424560 wrote:
You said he should not be under any scrutiny because the attention he received was racially motivated. Yes, for his birth certificate - Yeah, exactly. Are you going to try and tell me that it wasn't racially motivated?? Please, we aren't as stupid as you would hope. This clearly demonstrates prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone because they are of a different race. Yes, you played the race card! Sorry pro golfer, point out racism is not "playing the race card" - it's reporting. Best regards,[/quote] |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/19 at 17:28:25 07393834263A3B550 wrote:
tells me that this: "Oh wait. It doesn't matter what he actually said. What matters is how one "feels" about what one "feels" he must have meant by what one "feels" he said , even though he actually didn't say that." was pretty much spot on. You might want to quit Shaking Your Head before you hurt yourself too. ;) [/quote] Nah, I'm fine. I continue to shake my head at folks like you. I'm sad to see that so many in this country still have no problem judging others based strictly on race. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/19 at 17:31:59 7F686E626D7D0F0 wrote:
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by eau de sauvage on 07/17/19 at 20:24:45 This thread certainly proves the point of this excellent article, which is that Trump's main game is to divide Americans from Americans. The issue isn’t about ethnicity, they argue. It isn’t even about whether you were born here. It’s about respecting the law and getting in line. That’s a message most Americans can support. President Donald Trump has wrecked that message. This week, he told four Democratic congresswomen to “go back” to the countries from which their families emigrated. Three of the four lawmakers—Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts, and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan—were born here. By targeting them, Trump has sent a warning to every American whose ancestors came to this country: You, too, can be told to go home. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/07/trump-go-back-racist-tweets-squad-immigration.html? |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/18/19 at 05:14:30 By targeting them, Trump has sent a warning to every American whose ancestors came to this country: You, too, can be told to go home. No one believes that and anyone who thinks that's true is either paying lip service to an obvious partisan statement or they're mentally deranged. My ancestors came to this country as did my wife's and that thought never occurred to me and it honestly never occurred to any honest person either. If someone thinks Trump's coming for them or ICE might knock on their door, it's because they're thieves who've broken into this country. Everyone knows what Trump means by "Go back, fix it, come back and tell us" you included. If you say you don't, you are a liar. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/19 at 05:46:44 4C7E79686F7E69567A69701B0 wrote:
Stop kidding yourself, trump is a racist. He knows exactly what it means - as does everyone else. Thus, the chanting at his rally. Man up and own it. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/18/19 at 08:41:55 Go back to where you came from,... has now evolved into a, "Send her home!" rally cry. ...and Trump is relishing it. MAGA ... UPDATE ...and now,...Fox News Host:"I’d Grab My Wallet’ if I Met ‘the Squad" What else can this be saying? Colored people are thieves. When is a racist a racist?... |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by oldNslow on 07/18/19 at 09:27:01 7066716C74616C77030 wrote:
Exactly. It's the 2020 election version of "Lock her up!" I don't think Trump is a racist. I don't think her really cares much about race at all. But he sure understands how to use this kind of stuff. He's just managed to manipulate the democrat party into committing political suicide,by making them embrace these four radical idiots as the new voice of the party. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/19 at 09:48:32 5147504D55404D56220 wrote:
Not to worry Sero. The trumpsters will never turn on their fuhrer. They are beyond help or reason. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by oldNslow on 07/18/19 at 10:18:09 Quote:
How about Socialists are thieves ? You know, paying for everything with other folks money and all that. When you look at the Squad's political philosophy, that actually makes a lot more sense. There's a racist hiding behind every tree in your world I guess |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/18/19 at 10:29:50 2E382F322A3F32295D0 wrote:
...or is this a valid way of noting a liberal Democrat's tendencies to over tax people. Maybe you and your identity politics friends have watered down the meaning of racist to the point it's becoming meaningless. David Duke is a racist, but in your mind, anyone not agreeing with you are in the same boat as him. Is that what ypu want? |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/18/19 at 10:31:21 605E5F53415D5C320 wrote:
I think there's a racist behind every R in his world. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by NHLycan on 07/18/19 at 10:37:29 Dear people who don't think Drump is racist because you don't think that's what's in his heart. Do grow up. Nobody gives a darn about his heart. We care about his words and actions. When he refuses to rent to blacks, that's racist. It doesn't matter if it was a good business decision. When he calls for the murder of black teenagers, that's racist. It doesn't matter if he just did it for the publicity. When he says he hates having blacks touch his money and prefers Jews, that's racist. It doesn't matter that he thinks what he said is nice to jews. When he claims a black man isn't eligible to be president because you can't be sure he's American enough, that is racist. It doesn't matter if it's an election strategy. When he bans travel based upon religion, that's bigotry. It doesn't matter if it came from a stupid election promise. When he constantly insults the intelligence of minority politicians, it's racist. It doesn't matter if he didn't think through the historical tropes used against blacks for a hundred years. Clearly, I can go on. And on. And on. And that's without touching his problematic views on women which are perhaps even worse. He's a nasty little bigot. He has no honor and no dignity. He's unworthy of the deference you grant him and the ex post facto justifications you're forced to build around his abominable behavior. You diminish yourselves by doing so. Think about your soul. It deserves better. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/19 at 11:13:08 0B0D093C26242B450 wrote:
A-fukcing-MEN!!! |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by verslagen1 on 07/18/19 at 11:23:11 485E49544C59544F3B0 wrote:
Maybe he's inspired to donate? |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/18/19 at 11:35:37 766572736C6167656E31000 wrote:
Maybe he's inspired to donate?[/quote] I hadn't thought of that... ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/18/19 at 12:01:13 When he refuses to rent to blacks, that's racist. It doesn't matter if it was a good business decision. When he calls for the murder of black teenagers, that's racist. It doesn't matter if he just did it for the publicity. When he says he hates having blacks touch his money and prefers Jews, that's racist. It doesn't matter that he thinks what he said is nice to jews. When he claims a black man isn't eligible to be president because you can't be sure he's American enough, that is racist. It doesn't matter if it's an election strategy. When he bans travel based upon religion, that's bigotry. It doesn't matter if it came from a stupid election promise. When he constantly insults the intelligence of minority politicians, it's racist. It doesn't matter if he didn't think through the historical tropes used against blacks for a hundred years. None of that is true. It's provably false. You might kick a few others off the top podium of the TDS games and take home the gold medal for most moronic post of the year. Congrats man! |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/18/19 at 12:09:24 Web, you've got to be kidding. You're denying birtherism ever happened?.. All of those things NHLycan posted are facts. There are court records, full page newspaper ads that Trump paid for, Trump on video saying some of those things. All have documented proof. Trump says, "believe me,.. not what your eyes and ears tell you"... ...and you are in lockstep... You're unbelievable. Literally... :-/ |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/18/19 at 12:23:09 796F78657D68657E0A0 wrote:
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/18/19 at 12:34:59 Yup,.. you're in lockstep. Kick those legs up,.. and don't forget the the salute. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/18/19 at 12:35:30 Why is Ben Carson in Trump's cabinet? Why did he give that Omarosa (?) woman several opportunities including after elected President? Why does he repeatedly play golf with Tiger Woods? (why does Tiger play with him?) Hell, I bet Trump's slept with some pretty smoking hot black women over the years. Why push an anti-immigration policy that ultimately helps American blacks more than anyone else? Why attack Planned Parenthood which has done more to reduce the black population in America that a thousand KKK groups? |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/18/19 at 12:36:43 Kick those legs up,.. and don't forget the the salute. Nice, intelligent response. Don't dare consider the possibility that all that crap is just that, crap. You can't really prove any of it so take the easy way and say something like that. Nice. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by WebsterMark on 07/18/19 at 12:38:51 4157405D45505D46320 wrote:
And with a surprising level of respect, my other response to that is Fxxx Yxx. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/19 at 12:59:59 2432253820353823570 wrote:
LOL - well put Sero! |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/19 at 13:01:21 536166777061764965766F040 wrote:
[/quote] Truth hurts I guess.... |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/19 at 13:03:04 5D6F68797E6F78476B78610A0 wrote:
"But... but... I have plenty of black friends." LOL - that right there is a warning flag. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/18/19 at 14:43:17 He even has a black supporter. :-? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yyBEFu7AAM[/media] It even became a meme... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWcAW81NBCU[/media] |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/18/19 at 14:57:36 Trump's words aren't harmful... Store clerk fired after telling customers to ‘go back to their country’ in viral video Protest hits gas station after employee's 'Go back to your country' remark The little girls were visiting family on vacation. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by pg on 07/18/19 at 16:35:08 382E39243C29243F4B0 wrote:
What else can they be saying? Regarding socialists, 'you make it & they will take it.' The problem with socialism is you run out of other peoples money to spend. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Serowbot on 07/19/19 at 08:40:20 Trump is backtracking,.. and blaming his rally supporters. He even tried to stop them after a full 12 seconds of chanting and the noise died down. See, Trump's not racist, it's those darn Trump supporters that are racist. How will that play out?. Trump calling his supporters racist? I wonder what his next rally will be like. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Eegore on 07/19/19 at 08:43:25 "How will that play out?. Trump calling his supporters racist? I wonder what his next rally will be like." If it's anything like the people I am around right now it will be a bunch of "Hell Yeah I'm racist!" comments. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by T And T Garage on 07/19/19 at 09:39:32 527270786572170 wrote:
Whoa - doesn't sound like a very good place to be. Be safe Eegore. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by Eegore on 07/19/19 at 11:37:21 "Whoa - doesn't sound like a very good place to be. Be safe Eegore." That's pretty much everywhere. The difference is if people feel they can be honest with you. |
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Title: Re: Go back where you came from. Post by thumperclone on 07/19/19 at 16:47:09 in the trickey dickey days with the anti Vietnam war protests the same crap was spewing from the right wingers "AMERICA LOVE IT IR LEAVE IT" then the lefties came up with "AMERICA CHANGE IT OR LOSE IT" the orange one is a sandbox bully who spews crap towards any who disagree with him those who follow him eat those lil balls of sheet |
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