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Reply #45 - 05/17/19 at 09:11:00

MnSpring wrote on 05/17/19 at 08:54:08:

T And T Garage wrote on 05/16/19 at 15:23:52:

If the woman doesn't know she's pregnant, does that count? How can she even know at the early stages?

So a woman, has missed her period.
She ’thinks’ she may be pregnant.
She is driving to the Doctors office.

She is hit head on and killed.
The other person is charged with one count of ‘Vechiel Manslaughter’.

A Autopsy is performed, and it is discovered she was pregnant, by one week.
Now, the other person is charged with TWO counts of ‘Vechiel Manslaughter’.
And is sentenced to, Two, Consecutive terms.

Do you have proof of that happening? What's your source?

So, where is your, ‘outrage’ ?
You believe, ‘But it’s not a person’, ‘ A fetus is NOT a living animal.’, ‘a fetus is not a human being’, ‘It’s not a person’, ‘a fetus is not a baby’, ‘A heartbeat is not a baby’, ‘A zygote is not a baby’.
So clearly you believe that person should NOT be charged, because that second, ‘person’, was NOT a ‘person’.

Again, is there a record of such an incident?

Please explain why, the same people, (for the very most part) have decided a ‘baby’ is NOT a ‘baby’ until it is born, and can be willy-nilly, ‘aborted’, up to that point.
YET, suddenly, that, ‘unborn nothing’, is now a person ?
If the Tragic accident happened as above.

"If the tragic accident happened above"?

So this is only in your mind? Maybe you should ask a lawyer.

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 8999 Minn Gender:	Re: Fur or babies? Reply #46 - 05/17/19 at 09:21:05 T And T Garage wrote on 05/17/19 at 09:11:00: So this is only in your mind? Maybe you should ask a lawyer. Great Job of Deflecting ! Great Job !
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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: Fur or babies? Reply #47 - 05/17/19 at 09:42:40 MnSpring wrote on 05/17/19 at 09:21:05: T And T Garage wrote on 05/17/19 at 09:11:00: So this is only in your mind? Maybe you should ask a lawyer. Great Job of Deflecting ! Great Job ! What do you want me to do? Give you legal advice? I'm not you - I educate myself. Take your storybook scenario and go ask a lawyer.
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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Fur or babies? Reply #48 - 05/17/19 at 09:47:56 What do you want me to do? Give you legal advice? I'm not you - I educate myself. Gee, and to think I only looked at the pictures.....goodness, times have changed at Playboy I guess.
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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: Fur or babies? Reply #49 - 05/17/19 at 10:22:48 raydawg wrote on 05/17/19 at 09:47:56: What do you want me to do? Give you legal advice? I'm not you - I educate myself. Gee, and to think I only looked at the pictures.....goodness, times have changed at Playboy I guess. WTF does that even mean? A Playboy reference??
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Online SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12849 Gender:	Re: Fur or babies? Reply #50 - 05/17/19 at 10:24:01 No, that's incorrect. As I stated, I don't condone late term abortions. A fetus that has become viable outside the womb can only then be considered a "baby". I normally think any joining of male and female DNA fulfills the definition of what is a human but in your case, given that explanation, I'd be willing to make an exception......!
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Reply #51 - 05/17/19 at 10:39:44

T And T Garage wrote on 05/17/19 at 10:22:48:

raydawg wrote on 05/17/19 at 09:47:56:

What do you want me to do? Give you legal advice? I'm not you - I educate myself.

Gee, and to think I only looked at the pictures.....goodness, times have changed at Playboy I guess.

WTF does that even mean? A Playboy reference?? Huh

Gee, for one who is so smart, ya think it would be obvious, to where you get educated at..... Huh

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Reply #52 - 05/17/19 at 11:07:37

The Alabama law will be overturned.
...and, if Trump ever got abortion outlawed, it would only be for 2 years because it would guarantee a Democrat win in 2020, at which time it would be overturned.
Around 70% of voters are pro-choice.
It's a losing issue for Conservatives.
This may well be the last Republican ever elected President.
Women will not risk this again.

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Reply #53 - 05/17/19 at 11:17:29

Serowbot wrote on 05/17/19 at 11:07:37:

The Alabama law will be overturned.
...and, if Trump ever got abortion outlawed, it would only be for 2 years because it would guarantee a Democrat win in 2020, at which time it would be overturned.
Around 70% of voters are pro-choice.
It's a losing issue for Conservatives.
This may well be the last Republican ever elected President.
Women will not risk this again.

the law was specifically written to be challenged and Roe brought up again.

That 70% pro-choice figure drops off a cliff when you show women pictures of babies ripped apart............

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Reply #54 - 05/17/19 at 11:19:43

Serowbot wrote on 05/17/19 at 11:07:37:

The Alabama law will be overturned.
...and, if Trump ever got abortion outlawed, it would only be for 2 years because it would guarantee a Democrat win in 2020, at which time it would be overturned.
Around 70% of voters are pro-choice.
It's a losing issue for Conservatives.
This may well be the last Republican ever elected President.
Women will not risk this again.

Who cares what you think.....its a woman's issue, you have no say Grin

EDIT: The really sad thing is abortions should be rare, with today's intercourse controls, it should not be a option of convenience, when so many better ways exist, and safer too!

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28376 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Fur or babies? Reply #55 - 05/17/19 at 11:29:29 raydawg wrote on 05/17/19 at 11:19:43: Who cares what you think.....its a woman's issue, you have no say Precisely how I feel about it. It's a women's choice... not my body, not my business.
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Reply #56 - 05/17/19 at 11:50:11

"That 70% pro-choice figure drops off a cliff when you show women pictures of babies ripped apart............ "

Actually a study conducted in-part by the Vatican showed this action to have very little impact.

Its like saying showing people pictures of grotesque STD lesions on genitals will reduce sexual activity. There is no evidence of this ever being the case as human sexuality encases more factors than aversion to human disfigurement.

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Reply #57 - 05/17/19 at 11:55:24

"A Autopsy is performed, and it is discovered she was pregnant, by one week.
Now, the other person is charged with TWO counts of ‘Vechiel Manslaughter’.
And is sentenced to, Two, Consecutive terms."

Is there legal precedent for this?

We have had this discussion before but nobody wants to use actual law. Real laws in lawbooks, used in courts, as reference.

Again, the prosecution for harming an unborn human is because an act was committed without the choice/consent of the Mother. Without, the Mother's consent. The Mother had no choice, was not allowed a part in the decision.

The Mother, had, no, choice.

That's why the prosecution can file charges regarding an unborn baby.

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Reply #58 - 05/17/19 at 12:07:30

It will not go away.
(Until it is not FREE)
Just that I am not willing to PAY for it.

I buy a gun. It is for my use/entertainment.
I, PAY for it.

A woman, has a abortion, for convenience sake,
because she is to lazy to use the multitude of intercourse controls.
I Pay for it.

When that person, PAYS for MY gun,
then we will talk.

And yes, it is very well documented that Taxpayers, both State and Fed, PAY for the, ‘convenience’ abortions.
And no, not even close to paying for someone, that, Truly, needs help.

No one wants to go back to the days of coat hangers and closets.
It is legal, it is her conscious.
No, FREE, abortion,
because she is to lazy to use the multitude of conception control, readily available, and FREE.

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8010	Re: Fur or babies? Reply #59 - 05/17/19 at 13:46:34 "because she is to lazy to use the multitude of conception control, readily available, and FREE." My opinion is that it should be both parties responsibility. Or however many are involved.
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