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After Harley Davidson muffler what do I need?
11/16/18 at 17:05:55
 
Hi Everyone.
As part of my winter project I just replaced Harley muffler.
Do I need white spacer modification? I think part# is 65747-94
and I think it is Dyna muffler.
Please let me know what is next step.
Also I switched to raptor petcock.
I am still thinking whether I should check for tensioner.
I don't really hear rattling noise.
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Re: After Harley Davidson muffler what do I need?
Reply #1 - 11/16/18 at 17:16:30
 
How many miles?
What year model?
How's it running?
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Reply #2 - 11/16/18 at 17:41:25
 
It's 2008 with 15806 km(9821miles).
With Dyna muffler lots of backfire.
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Reply #3 - 11/16/18 at 18:59:54
 
I have the same muffler with a stock air box.
I changed the 145 main jet to 150 and shaved the white spacer from original 2.8 mm to 2.2 mm thickness
Pilot needle is now open 2 turns.
Bike runs well at those settings  very little crackle and pop and smooth acceleration from idle position
Still gives a poof on shut down
Fuel consumption  4.7L/ 100 Km
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Reply #4 - 11/16/18 at 20:01:15
 
Read about it in the Tech Section....... What you do with the white spacer mod,  is highly dependent on your elevation above sea level,which is why we often ask your location. Hiko suggests the use of a 150 main jet ,and I agree ,it's a rather a standard( good all around) jet to use with the Dyna muffler on a stock motor (I do).
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Reply #5 - 11/17/18 at 02:03:55
 
Thank everyone.
I read but I couldn't find chart or how much I should remove white spacer. My elevation is between 170(560 ft) to 200m (660 ft).
I live in Toronto, Canada.
Any suggestions for white spacer mod? 1/3, 1/2 or no cut?
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Reply #6 - 11/17/18 at 02:47:23
 
kylejang wrote on 11/17/18 at 02:03:55:
Thank everyone.
I read but I couldn't find chart or how much I should remove white spacer. My elevation is between 170(560 ft) to 200m (660 ft).
I live in Toronto, Canada.
Any suggestions for white spacer mod? 1/3, 1/2 or no cut?



If you can find some small washers (stainless steel or brass) with the same inside and outside diameters as the spacer then you can experiment with different thicknesses by stacking the washers.

I'm at sea level and found that about 0.5 to 0.6 of the stock thickness works well. By memory that was about 3 - 4 SS washers.

I would start with about 0.6 and see how it runs for a while. Reducing the thickness makes the bike run richer. I kept reducing the number of washers until it felt like it was running a bit too rich (it started to feel a little sluggish). Then I added one washer back in.

I only get the occasional pop, from the exhaust, on deceleration or gear change , on a crisp spring morning. Apart from that it runs great.

Keep in mind that running richer will affect your mileage.
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Reply #7 - 11/17/18 at 03:50:08
 
Find a good hardware store with steel #4 machine screw washers.  Remove the white spacer and put in 3 washers where the spacer used to be.  If you discover the bike still has a lean surge just off idle.....remove 1 washer.

(Brass washers have too large OD to fit into the recess in the slide).
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Reply #8 - 11/17/18 at 14:54:42
 
kylejang wrote on 11/17/18 at 02:03:55:
Thank everyone.
I read but I couldn't find chart or how much I should remove white spacer. My elevation is between 170(560 ft) to 200m (660 ft).
I live in Toronto, Canada.
Any suggestions for white spacer mod? 1/3, 1/2 or no cut?



I should have put my elevation in my previous post my elevation is sea level to around 800 ft  normally
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Reply #9 - 11/17/18 at 15:28:39
 
I am at 500 - 825.  My bike ran great with a #150 main, #50 pilot, and my initial try of 3 washers had a slight lean surge at low throttle settings.  I removed 1 washer and tried 2......and it ran great (stock air cleaner and Dyna muffler).

Most bikes run fine with 3 washers....mine didn't.
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Reply #10 - 11/18/18 at 08:41:21
 
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Reply #11 - 11/24/18 at 20:06:45
 
Hi again.  I just cleaned up Carb and replaced white spacer with 3 washers. Also all the jet screws are stock. This mean I should replace jet screws?  And not tighten pilot jet will be benefit for backfire?
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Reply #12 - 11/24/18 at 21:00:25
 
This link will have what you need to know:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1309246277


Also refer to Batman's recommendations for main jet, and pilot jet sizes.

As for the air-mix screw, if you turn it all the way clockwise, then back it off 1.5 turns - that should give you a good starting point.

When I prepared to tune my carb, I ordered two jets smaller, and two jets larger, than the stock jets (pilot and main). They were only a few dollars each. Then I was able to use the method described in the link to experiment until I got it right - for me!
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Reply #13 - 11/25/18 at 05:22:29
 
Thank you. I read the link above now I am totally understood how the carburetor actually works.
When next spring comes I am going to experiment jets.  
Thank you, guys. You guys rock.
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Reply #14 - 04/09/19 at 09:34:20
 
Hello. I really need help again. I installed raptor petcock, 3 washers, 150 main jet and fuel mixture screw 2 turn. Now I am having 2 problems, first engine dies when I downshift from 2nd gear to 1st gear when I shut off the the throttle . It dies very smoothly.  
Second when I cold start with choke, bike dies too without choke it doesn't die
This is called lean surge? Should I remove 1 washer?  By the way I bought raptor petcock from Amazon is this could be petcock issue?  Please let me know what I need to fix. Thank you everyone.
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