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Re: SJW dilemma
Reply #15 - 05/20/18 at 18:56:42
 
Serowbot wrote:

" it is perhaps best to let the individual decide."

The individual tranny made the "individual" decision that he/she wanted his/her nutsa*k waxed.

The Muslim waxer declined, on religious grounds, to touch the nutsa*k . Also an "individual" decision. And the Muslim waxers employer suggested that the Tranny go find someone else to wax his/her nuts. Another "individual decision.


So the tranny, being unhappy with the others "individual " decisions, referred the matter to Canada's Human Rights Commision. Which presumably exists for the express purpose that in matters of this kind " it is perhaps best to NOT let the individual decide", but rather to decide for them.

Because the "individuals" involved are not competent to make "individual" decisions for themselves perhaps ? Or might not decide based on the correct criteria ?


So what are the SJW, who are loath to offend either Trannys or Muslims, going to think when the Commission decides in favor of one or the other?

The SJW aren't going to be able to have it both ways, I don't think. Whatever the Commission decides is bound to make some of them unhappy.

Or is their proclivity for cognitive dissonance so profound that they (the SJW) won't even recognise the problem ?

Until their heads crack like eggshells. Cheesy





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Reply #16 - 05/20/18 at 19:39:54
 
I heard that Mic hit the floor.

You lefties don't have a clue what is right here.
And the problem is so predictable.
Why no answers?
They are both precious in your eyes.

But SHE'S right.
Blinded by P.C.
Wrapped up like a douche
Another lefty in the night.
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Reply #17 - 05/21/18 at 07:43:40
 
Serowbot wrote on 05/20/18 at 15:35:24:
FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 05/20/18 at 15:05:07:
The conservatives are the ones making a stink about it, not liberals  
 
He just can't see it... Grin Grin Grin

If, ‘Conservatives are making a ’stink’,  
 it is FOR, the  VICTIMS !
Because  80% of the Main Street Media,
                are  NOT   Doing it.  
They are NOT  reporting/repeating/telling the Truth,
Because it is counter to their agendas.

Below just a  FEW !

https://www.dailywire.com/news/5190/5-times-transgender-men-abused-women-and-...
http://stacyontheright.com/catalogue-of-sexual-crimes-committed-at-target-sto...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=...
https://www.metropolitiques.eu/spip.php?page=print&id_article=1105
http://www.theforecaster.net/heres-something-women-suffer-when-bathrooms-are-...
https://www.christianexaminer.com/article/rape.victim.transgender.bathrooms.w...
http://www.koat.com/article/man-arrested-after-sexually-assaulting-a-woman-wh...
https://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2017/02/18/21-women-assaulted-by-transgend...
http://abc13.com/masked-man-hides-in-bathroom-rapes-12-year-old-girl-/3228075/
http://www.wcvb.com/article/customer-says-man-photographed-her-inside-tj-maxx...

This sight, very Right Wing. said: “…significant rise in voyeurism convictions. In the years 2006-2009 there were only 2.25 convictions per year. A significant rise was noted in 2010-2012 where the average rose to six convictions per year. However, over the last four years, 2013-2016, this number has exploded even higher, up to an average of 16 convictions per year…”
http://thefederalist.com/2017/02/09/data-suggests-unisex-bathrooms-bonanza-ma...

This one, from, ’Slate’, a  ULTRA- Left wing Lover. Defends the, ’Trans Gender’ Male, by stating:
“…But there’s one glaring problem: According to the cited reports, none of the alleged assailants were trans people…”
(Which is referring to a 20 person round up in a  Private Company)
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2016/04/27/breitbart_helpfully_shows_trans...

Now for the, ’Snowflakes’.  Those two are Right and Left reporting.  Different things said, in different ways.
                       But  WHAT IS IN COMMON ??????????????





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Re: SJW dilemma
Reply #18 - 05/22/18 at 13:19:08
 
MnSpring wrote on 05/21/18 at 07:43:40:
Serowbot wrote on 05/20/18 at 15:35:24:
FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 05/20/18 at 15:05:07:
The conservatives are the ones making a stink about it, not liberals  
 
He just can't see it... Grin Grin Grin

If, ‘Conservatives are making a ’stink’,  
 it is FOR, the  VICTIMS !
Because  80% of the Main Street Media,
                are  NOT   Doing it.  
They are NOT  reporting/repeating/telling the Truth,
Because it is counter to their agendas.

Below just a  FEW !

https://www.dailywire.com/news/5190/5-times-transgender-men-abused-women-and-...
http://stacyontheright.com/catalogue-of-sexual-crimes-committed-at-target-sto...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=...
https://www.metropolitiques.eu/spip.php?page=print&id_article=1105
http://www.theforecaster.net/heres-something-women-suffer-when-bathrooms-are-...
https://www.christianexaminer.com/article/rape.victim.transgender.bathrooms.w...
http://www.koat.com/article/man-arrested-after-sexually-assaulting-a-woman-wh...
https://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2017/02/18/21-women-assaulted-by-transgend...
http://abc13.com/masked-man-hides-in-bathroom-rapes-12-year-old-girl-/3228075/
http://www.wcvb.com/article/customer-says-man-photographed-her-inside-tj-maxx...

This sight, very Right Wing. said: “…significant rise in voyeurism convictions. In the years 2006-2009 there were only 2.25 convictions per year. A significant rise was noted in 2010-2012 where the average rose to six convictions per year. However, over the last four years, 2013-2016, this number has exploded even higher, up to an average of 16 convictions per year…”
http://thefederalist.com/2017/02/09/data-suggests-unisex-bathrooms-bonanza-ma...

This one, from, ’Slate’, a  ULTRA- Left wing Lover. Defends the, ’Trans Gender’ Male, by stating:
“…But there’s one glaring problem: According to the cited reports, none of the alleged assailants were trans people…”
(Which is referring to a 20 person round up in a  Private Company)
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2016/04/27/breitbart_helpfully_shows_trans...

Now for the, ’Snowflakes’.  Those two are Right and Left reporting.  Different things said, in different ways.
                       But  WHAT IS IN COMMON ??????????????








did you actually go through any of that data???  

the problem is clearly with men, the overwhelming majority of those 140 cases, were men presenting as MEN...  and those trans people (the like 6 of them) that were part of the data, were also MEN presenting as female.

18 of the 279 reports on that data were trans, the remaining 261 were men, and this was for the crime of "voyeurism" not a violent crime, sure it's disturbing but it's not the rape-fest the conservatives were yelling about in advertisements against laws allowing people to poop where they want. oh, wait, I'm sorry, there were 3 of the 18 that were rape related (some were threats or attempt of rape)  and this is a very sporadic set of data, from 1984 through 2017 over a wide variety of places  over a few COUNTRIES...  


so why are men so evil?  or are you really blaming the bathroom?

If you are so worried about the 18 trans people, then you must really be freaked out about the 260 MEN that were part of this data set a well.  I mean at least read the title "The Data Suggests Unisex Bathrooms Are A Bonanza To Male Perverts" . not Trans perverts

why aren't you freaking out saying all MEN are perverts... cause that seems to be WAY WAY WAY more prevalent than the few Trans people here.  


and you proved MY POINT. only conservatives are making a mountain out of a molehill here.  

there are already laws dealing with these kinds of crimes, yet conservatives want even more laws in this case...   weird

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Reply #19 - 05/22/18 at 14:37:27
 
There is no problem or issue, a woman cannot legally be made to touch  male genatilia no matter what the person who is biologically attached to them (the whole husband-wife thing not part of this discussion).

Or for that matter, the opposite may also be true legally,  I don't know.
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Reply #20 - 05/22/18 at 15:02:36
 
He's suing.
The ISSUE exists.
Because of the butthurt snowflakes who believe that because they have
Declared they are women, they want to force others to behave as if they are.

It's insanity.
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Reply #21 - 05/22/18 at 15:09:12
 
LostArtist wrote on 05/22/18 at 13:19:08:
"The Data Suggests Unisex Bathrooms Are A Bonanza To Male Perverts"  


A-Yep 'perverts', are, Pretending to Pretend,
because a group of people,
made a LAW, to Allow, a Pretender.
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Reply #22 - 05/22/18 at 15:18:53
 
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Reply #23 - 05/23/18 at 12:33:08
 
MnSpring wrote on 05/22/18 at 15:09:12:
LostArtist wrote on 05/22/18 at 13:19:08:
"The Data Suggests Unisex Bathrooms Are A Bonanza To Male Perverts"  


A-Yep 'perverts', are, Pretending to Pretend,
because a group of people,
made a LAW, to Allow, a Pretender.


so you think that "pretending" is perverted?    

and there is no law allowing predator behavior.
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Reply #24 - 05/23/18 at 13:17:11
 
There are three ways in which a culture acts. Theonomous, heteronomous and Autonomous.

Theonomous is a culture that follows Gods law... not many left. India is about as close as you get. We get Inalienable rights here.

Heteronomous is a culture where specific people dictate your behavior, China would be a good example and Iran. Usually specific elites. We are quickly getting here.

Autonomous is a culture where we make our own choices. Most Americans claim this position and that we are an autonomous society. Obviously this is all to degrees.

The problem in or society though is that we claim the autonomous view for us, but if someone disagrees we immediately pull out the heteronomous for them.

The Gay guy believes he has the right to be what ever he/she wants to be but not the Muslim. She must be forced to believe as he does or suffer.

Same thing with the cake backer.... same as most of the post on this site....

We can not claim the autonomous position for ourselves if we are not willing to allow others to have the same autonomy.

Tolerance is accepting the fact that we disagree in beliefs and still get along, not that we have to accept ALL beliefs.
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Reply #25 - 05/23/18 at 14:04:11
 
Trippah wrote on 05/22/18 at 14:37:27:
There is no problem or issue, a woman cannot legally be made to touch  male genatilia no matter what the person who is biologically attached to them (the whole husband-wife thing not part of this discussion).

Or for that matter, the opposite may also be true legally,  I don't know.


I'm with Trip,... this service is genital specific.
She shouldn't have to comply.

Very different than baking a cake.
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Reply #26 - 05/23/18 at 14:31:21
 
MShipley wrote on 05/23/18 at 13:17:11:
There are three ways in which a culture acts. Theonomous, heteronomous and Autonomous.

Theonomous is a culture that follows Gods law... not many left. India is about as close as you get. We get Inalienable rights here.

Heteronomous is a culture where specific people dictate your behavior, China would be a good example and Iran. Usually specific elites. We are quickly getting here.

Autonomous is a culture where we make our own choices. Most Americans claim this position and that we are an autonomous society. Obviously this is all to degrees.

The problem in or society though is that we claim the autonomous view for us, but if someone disagrees we immediately pull out the heteronomous for them.

The Gay guy believes he has the right to be what ever he/she wants to be but not the Muslim. She must be forced to believe as he does or suffer.

Same thing with the cake backer.... same as most of the post on this site....

We can not claim the autonomous position for ourselves if we are not willing to allow others to have the same autonomy.

Tolerance is accepting the fact that we disagree in beliefs and still get along, not that we have to accept ALL beliefs.



Brilliant
I want to see anyone counter that.
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Reply #27 - 05/23/18 at 14:41:40
 
Serowbot wrote on 05/23/18 at 14:04:11:
" ...She shouldn't have to comply.
Very different than baking a cake.

Their are people that touching genatials, is not a problem.
 Lovers, Doctors, Nurses, etc.etc.etc. all come to mind.
  (Many more I am sure)
So, that, ’Touching’ is a, Choice.
You say, she should not have to comply,
  Which clearly is her Choice.

Yet the, Choice, of the Baker,
     is not at all a Choice.
And the Baker, Should, comply.
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