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Message started by oldNslow on 05/19/18 at 09:25:46

Title: SJW dilemma
Post by oldNslow on 05/19/18 at 09:25:46

Tranny vs. Muslim. SJW heads explode. ;D ;D ;D

http://www.saysuncle.com/2018/05/15/peak-2018/

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by MnSpring on 05/19/18 at 13:19:52

66585955475B5A340 wrote:

Tranny vs. Muslim. SJW heads explode. ;D ;D ;D

http://www.saysuncle.com/2018/05/15/peak-2018/

WOW, as a very frequent poster always posts:
100 +
http://windsorstar.com/news/local-news/transgender-woman-files-human-rights-complaint-against-windsor-spa
Another view above.
100 +

HEY, Who is going to FOLLOW, those,
'Snowflakes' LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/19/18 at 18:55:12

He should've asked for a ham sandwich too.

The SCIENCE says
Male or
Female

It's actually
Settled
Science

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 05/20/18 at 06:30:30

687771766B6C5D6D5D65777B30020 wrote:

He should've asked for a ham sandwich too.

The SCIENCE says
Male or
Female

It's actually
Settled
Science

actually....

The Six Most Common Karyotypes
The six biological karyotype sexes that do not result in death to the fetus are:

X – Roughly 1 in 2,000 to 1 in 5,000 people (Turner’s )
XX – Most common form of female
XXY – Roughly 1 in 500 to 1 in 1,000 people (Klinefelter)
XY – Most common form of male
XYY – Roughly 1 out of 1,000 people
XXXY – Roughly 1 in 18,000 to 1 in 50,000 births

https://www.joshuakennon.com/the-six-common-biological-sexes-in-humans/

so it's a bit more complicated than you think (surprise anyone?)

the problem you have is that "gender" isn't determined biologically, "sex" is.

gender is a social construct and therefor very fluid, even if biological sex is not.

if you believe that homosexuality is a choice, then it leads that you should think that gender is too.

nature vs nurture life is complicated, sorry

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/20/18 at 07:47:52

It's certainly gotten a lot more complicated since the left decided to make everyone Feel okay about themselves even when they are not.
Or, maybe life is So complicated that it's actually gotten better and I can't tell.

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by Serowbot on 05/20/18 at 08:10:54

Maybe life is more complicated now that we have our heads out of the sand....
We know these people are out there,... and they must be dealt with.
With bathrooms we have an A or B choice and neither seems an appropriate fit for all.
Given that fact,... it is perhaps best to let the individual decide.
It's been happening that way forever,... and we just weren't aware.
Now that we are aware, it's a problem... so is the awareness the problem?...

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/20/18 at 09:05:37

IDK, but it's a whole buncha diversity and I'm not Seeing a stronger society from the diversity.

What's the answer here?
Is the person who has a thingy and testicles a woman or not?
Shall we smash the ignorant Muslim woman who is Unable to understand that the person who has a thingy and testicles and who insists it's a woman, actually Is a woman, and the Muslim woman should be able to ignore the obvious TRUTH and serve the client?

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 05/20/18 at 12:07:30

5F4046415C5B6A5A6A52404C07350 wrote:

(the word "you" in the below is a shortcut for conservatives in general, I don't know if JOG is all that bad himself (I kinda doubt he is) just felt more conversational to type it like this, sorry if I offend)

That's because you are self limiting your strength based on your self imposed definitions of society. You're isolating yourself by not accepting others into "your society" and passing laws to alienate them and make them feel unaccepted when they just want the same respect you give others, since you aren't giving it to them, they are re-acting badly as outcasts.

and yes, some of them do the same to you, everyone does it, it takes a truly strong society to accept others, stronger together than divided.

the above is not a fully developed position, just a start

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by MnSpring on 05/20/18 at 13:29:25

“…We know these people are out there,
and they must be dealt with…”
That is the Problem
THE WHOLE PROBLEM !!!!

The, Ultra Liberals, just HAVE, to,
MAKE, a Solution
to something which is NOT, a Problem.
(Push, Push, Push, that Pendulum)

Their has always been, and always will be,
Abnormalities, in ALL, Mammals.

In the case of, sex in humans, used to be, before the Fairy Dust Sprinklers got involved, a male, (the parts) decided to dress up as a female. They had to use a bathroom. They used the Ladies bathroom if their were two. They went into the stall, did their job, then left.
They received NO more than, a look, if they were good, none at all.
AND, Because that is what, ’they’ wanted to do.
They KNEW, were every, ’single/non gender’, bathroom was.

(Just like you know where every gas station is in 75-100 miles, where someone else, may know every 300 +/- miles)

Now, the, Feel Good, Kum-By-You singers. CRIED, till a Law is made, that one MUST, Allow a Pretender to Pretend !
Which the people, that have the gender mix-up, did NOT need help. they just adapted.
BUT, the LAW, Allows/Encourages, someone to, ‘Pretend’, to be a ‘Pretender’.

“… It’s been happening that way forever,… and we just weren’t aware…”
A YEA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ya JUST, figure that out ??????

“…Now that we are aware, it’s a problem… so is the awareness the problem?…”
Problem ? It’s a, Problem ? WHY ?????????
It hasn’t been a problem in the past, WHY is it NOW ???????

What sounds like, the ’SNOWFLAKE”, Credo.
The Phrase:
“…We know these people are out there, and they must be dealt with…”
Which sums up the, ’SNOWFLAKE”, way;
‘You do what I want, the Way I want, How I want, and When I want’

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 05/20/18 at 15:05:07

45665B787A61666F080 wrote:

“…We know these people are out there,
and they must be dealt with…”
That is the Problem
THE WHOLE PROBLEM !!!!

The, Ultra Liberals, just HAVE, to,
MAKE, a Solution
to something which is NOT, a Problem.
(Push, Push, Push, that Pendulum)

Their has always been, and always will be,
Abnormalities, in ALL, Mammals.

In the case of, sex in humans, used to be, before the Fairy Dust Sprinklers got involved, a male, (the parts) decided to dress up as a female. They had to use a bathroom. They used the Ladies bathroom if their were two. They went into the stall, did their job, then left.
They received NO more than, a look, if they were good, none at all.
AND, Because that is what, ’they’ wanted to do.
They KNEW, were every, ’single/non gender’, bathroom was.

(Just like you know where every gas station is in 75-100 miles, where someone else, may know every 300 +/- miles)

Now, the, Feel Good, Kum-By-You singers. CRIED, till a Law is made, that one MUST, Allow a Pretender to Pretend !
Which the people, that have the gender mix-up, did NOT need help. they just adapted.
BUT, the LAW, Allows/Encourages, someone to, ‘Pretend’, to be a ‘Pretender’.

which is what they have been doing, for centuries, and have caused no problems, ever. so making a law enshrining the status quo as ok..... and that becomes bedeviling to the conservatives who make up lies to fearmonger voters against what has been happening already.

tell me again how conservatives are the "common sense" party???

“… It’s been happening that way forever,… and we just weren’t aware…”
A YEA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ya JUST, figure that out ??????

“…Now that we are aware, it’s a problem… so is the awareness the problem?…”
Problem ? It’s a, Problem ? WHY ?????????
It hasn’t been a problem in the past, WHY is it NOW ???????

What sounds like, the ’SNOWFLAKE”, Credo.
The Phrase:
“…We know these people are out there, and they must be dealt with…”
Which sums up the, ’SNOWFLAKE”, way;
‘You do what I want, the Way I want, How I want, and When I want’

The conservatives are the ones making a stink about it, not liberals

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by Serowbot on 05/20/18 at 15:35:24

0128352A22352B3E0B2834330635332E3433470 wrote:

The conservatives are the ones making a stink about it, not liberals

He just can't see it... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/20/18 at 15:35:26

The butthurt, and I Do Mean Butthurt, tranny is suing. That's throwing a fit.
And the REASON the big lefty presence isn't saying anything is the same reason nobody has answered
The Question.

Just answer the question and explain WHY the Muslim woman should or shouldn't have provided the service.

It's a service providing company.
That's what the left used to demand the baker serve up a cake.

Who is wrong here?
I Know every one of you has an answer.
I'm Really anxious to see it.

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/20/18 at 15:37:20

4650475A42575A41350 wrote:

[quote author=0128352A22352B3E0B2834330635332E3433470 link=1526747147/0#9 date=1526853907]

The conservatives are the ones making a stink about it, not liberals

He just can't see it... ;D ;D ;D[/quote]

It's a question.

There's a situation.

Who is right?

Just because it's not all over the news shouldn't keep you from knowing the answer.

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by T And T Garage on 05/20/18 at 16:49:29

6D7B6C71697C716A1E0 wrote:

BOOM! Sero laying down the truth!!!

(Mic drop)

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/20/18 at 17:14:37

Boom!
Still no ANSWER.

Dodge and run.
Too bad it's not all over the news.
Then you lefties would have someone telling you that answer.
Ohhh, wait,, that's Why nobody is talking about it. The lefties in the media don't know what to say either.
But the original point is valid.
Answer the question.

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by oldNslow on 05/20/18 at 18:56:42

Serowbot wrote:

" it is perhaps best to let the individual decide."

The individual tranny made the "individual" decision that he/she wanted his/her nutsa*k waxed.

The Muslim waxer declined, on religious grounds, to touch the nutsa*k . Also an "individual" decision. And the Muslim waxers employer suggested that the Tranny go find someone else to wax his/her nuts. Another "individual decision.

So the tranny, being unhappy with the others "individual " decisions, referred the matter to Canada's Human Rights Commision. Which presumably exists for the express purpose that in matters of this kind " it is perhaps best to NOT let the individual decide", but rather to decide for them.

Because the "individuals" involved are not competent to make "individual" decisions for themselves perhaps ? Or might not decide based on the correct criteria ?

So what are the SJW, who are loath to offend either Trannys or Muslims, going to think when the Commission decides in favor of one or the other?

The SJW aren't going to be able to have it both ways, I don't think. Whatever the Commission decides is bound to make some of them unhappy.

Or is their proclivity for cognitive dissonance so profound that they (the SJW) won't even recognise the problem ?

Until their heads crack like eggshells. :D

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/20/18 at 19:39:54

I heard that Mic hit the floor.

You lefties don't have a clue what is right here.
And the problem is so predictable.
Why no answers?
They are both precious in your eyes.

But SHE'S right.
Blinded by P.C.
Wrapped up like a douche
Another lefty in the night.

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by MnSpring on 05/21/18 at 07:43:40

4751465B43565B40340 wrote:

[quote author=0128352A22352B3E0B2834330635332E3433470 link=1526747147/0#9 date=1526853907]
The conservatives are the ones making a stink about it, not liberals

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by LostArtist on 05/22/18 at 13:19:08

02211C3F3D2621284F0 wrote:

[quote author=4751465B43565B40340 link=1526747147/0#10 date=1526855724][quote author=0128352A22352B3E0B2834330635332E3433470 link=1526747147/0#9 date=1526853907]
The conservatives are the ones making a stink about it, not liberals

He just can't see it... ;D ;D ;D[/quote]
If, ‘Conservatives are making a ’stink’,
it is FOR, the VICTIMS !
Because 80% of the Main Street Media,
are NOT Doing it.
They are NOT reporting/repeating/telling the Truth,
Because it is counter to their agendas.

Below just a FEW !

https://www.dailywire.com/news/5190/5-times-transgender-men-abused-women-and-children-amanda-prestigiacomo
http://stacyontheright.com/catalogue-of-sexual-crimes-committed-at-target-stores/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjL2br88ZbbAhVB44MKHQ_UAGAQFghGMAY&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lc.org%2FPDFs%2FLC-Predators-in-Bathrooms-Feb-2017-edited-4-10-17.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2wl0H5XswbwBCZQlntjFGM
https://www.metropolitiques.eu/spip.php?page=print&id_article=1105
http://www.theforecaster.net/heres-something-women-suffer-when-bathrooms-are-unisex/
https://www.christianexaminer.com/article/rape.victim.transgender.bathrooms.would.expose.girls.women.to.sexual.assault/49834.htm
http://www.koat.com/article/man-arrested-after-sexually-assaulting-a-woman-while-in-the-restroom-police-say/8953201
https://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2017/02/18/21-women-assaulted-by-transgenders-in-restrooms
http://abc13.com/masked-man-hides-in-bathroom-rapes-12-year-old-girl-/3228075/
http://www.wcvb.com/article/customer-says-man-photographed-her-inside-tj-maxx-bathroom-wqizs1xk/8560257

This sight, very Right Wing. said: “…significant rise in voyeurism convictions. In the years 2006-2009 there were only 2.25 convictions per year. A significant rise was noted in 2010-2012 where the average rose to six convictions per year. However, over the last four years, 2013-2016, this number has exploded even higher, up to an average of 16 convictions per year…”
http://thefederalist.com/2017/02/09/data-suggests-unisex-bathrooms-bonanza-male-perverts/

This one, from, ’Slate’, a ULTRA- Left wing Lover. Defends the, ’Trans Gender’ Male, by stating:
“…But there’s one glaring problem: According to the cited reports, none of the alleged assailants were trans people…”
(Which is referring to a 20 person round up in a Private Company)
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2016/04/27/breitbart_helpfully_shows_trans_women_are_not_bathroom_predators_cis_men.html

Now for the, ’Snowflakes’. Those two are Right and Left reporting. Different things said, in different ways.
But WHAT IS IN COMMON ??????????????

[/quote]

did you actually go through any of that data???

the problem is clearly with men, the overwhelming majority of those 140 cases, were men presenting as MEN... and those trans people (the like 6 of them) that were part of the data, were also MEN presenting as female.

18 of the 279 reports on that data were trans, the remaining 261 were men, and this was for the crime of "voyeurism" not a violent crime, sure it's disturbing but it's not the rape-fest the conservatives were yelling about in advertisements against laws allowing people to poop where they want. oh, wait, I'm sorry, there were 3 of the 18 that were rape related (some were threats or attempt of rape) and this is a very sporadic set of data, from 1984 through 2017 over a wide variety of places over a few COUNTRIES...

so why are men so evil? or are you really blaming the bathroom?

If you are so worried about the 18 trans people, then you must really be freaked out about the 260 MEN that were part of this data set a well. I mean at least read the title "The Data Suggests Unisex Bathrooms Are A Bonanza To Male Perverts" . not Trans perverts

why aren't you freaking out saying all MEN are perverts... cause that seems to be WAY WAY WAY more prevalent than the few Trans people here.

and you proved MY POINT. only conservatives are making a mountain out of a molehill here.

there are already laws dealing with these kinds of crimes, yet conservatives want even more laws in this case... weird

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by Trippah on 05/22/18 at 14:37:27

There is no problem or issue, a woman cannot legally be made to touch male genatilia no matter what the person who is biologically attached to them (the whole husband-wife thing not part of this discussion).

Or for that matter, the opposite may also be true legally, I don't know.

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/22/18 at 15:02:36

He's suing.
The ISSUE exists.
Because of the butthurt snowflakes who believe that because they have
Declared they are women, they want to force others to behave as if they are.

It's insanity.

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by MnSpring on 05/22/18 at 15:09:12

1D3E2225102325382225510 wrote:
"The Data Suggests Unisex Bathrooms Are A Bonanza To Male Perverts"

A-Yep 'perverts', are, Pretending to Pretend,
because a group of people,
made a LAW, to Allow, a Pretender.

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/22/18 at 15:18:53

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=58441

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by LostArtist on 05/23/18 at 12:33:08

0625183B3922252C4B0 wrote:

[quote author=1D3E2225102325382225510 link=1526747147/15#18 date=1527020348] "The Data Suggests Unisex Bathrooms Are A Bonanza To Male Perverts"

A-Yep 'perverts', are, Pretending to Pretend,
because a group of people,
made a LAW, to Allow, a Pretender.[/quote]

so you think that "pretending" is perverted?

and there is no law allowing predator behavior.

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by MShipley on 05/23/18 at 13:17:11

There are three ways in which a culture acts. Theonomous, heteronomous and Autonomous.

Theonomous is a culture that follows Gods law... not many left. India is about as close as you get. We get Inalienable rights here.

Heteronomous is a culture where specific people dictate your behavior, China would be a good example and Iran. Usually specific elites. We are quickly getting here.

Autonomous is a culture where we make our own choices. Most Americans claim this position and that we are an autonomous society. Obviously this is all to degrees.

The problem in or society though is that we claim the autonomous view for us, but if someone disagrees we immediately pull out the heteronomous for them.

The Gay guy believes he has the right to be what ever he/she wants to be but not the Muslim. She must be forced to believe as he does or suffer.

Same thing with the cake backer.... same as most of the post on this site....

We can not claim the autonomous position for ourselves if we are not willing to allow others to have the same autonomy.

Tolerance is accepting the fact that we disagree in beliefs and still get along, not that we have to accept ALL beliefs.

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by Serowbot on 05/23/18 at 14:04:11

64425940405158300 wrote:

I'm with Trip,... this service is genital specific.
She shouldn't have to comply.

Very different than baking a cake.

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/23/18 at 14:31:21

657B404158444D51280 wrote:

Brilliant
I want to see anyone counter that.

Title: Re: SJW dilemma
Post by MnSpring on 05/23/18 at 14:41:40

2137203D25303D26520 wrote:

" ...She shouldn't have to comply.
Very different than baking a cake.

Their are people that touching genatials, is not a problem.
Lovers, Doctors, Nurses, etc.etc.etc. all come to mind.
(Many more I am sure)
So, that, ’Touching’ is a, Choice.
You say, she should not have to comply,
Which clearly is her Choice.

Yet the, Choice, of the Baker,
is not at all a Choice.
And the Baker, Should, comply.