Trippah wrote on 02/17/18 at 07:36:07:


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 So you really think schools can just start issuing guns to staff?

 What are your state laws regarding this?

 Where I'm from you can not just hand out pistols in schools, also you can not just budget tax dollars for the acquisition of firearms/ammunition and staff training.

 Its illegal to allocate education funds for reasons other than education.  Can you provide a small mock-up of a tax plan that might fund something like this?

 I ask who's going to pay because not everyone lives in the country with people they know who will volunteer to carry guns in schools.

 Legally where I am volunteers can not carry guns in schools.  Its illegal, so to make it legal we need to change laws.

 Taxpayers that vote for these changes in law will want to know that "volunteers" (not ones you know, ones that live in literally everywhere else in the country) will be vetted.

 In TX they run a psych evaluation, but somebody pays for that evaluation.  There's active shooter training, somebody pays for that.  Somebody put together the paperwork that gets filed by the city and city workers get paid to maintain those records - taxpayers pay for that, so now we need volunteers to work for the city as well.

 That's great that where you live there's people you know that will roam schools for free and its legal but that doesn't apply where I live.  So where I am we need to justify funding, the school near my house needs 14 armed persons per day to cover the grounds at 100 plus hours per week.  We need to find 4 metal detector units to be donated, free training and maintenance and volunteer staff at 100 hours per week.

 We need to know who pays for the vetting process, the training and the legal protections for the District if a child gets killed by a volunteer.

Eegore wrote on 02/17/18 at 09:37:23:


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"I'd bet the cops would gladly run a few teachers through the training."

 Who pays cops? Where is the facility? Who supplies ammunition police use?

 The taxpayer.  

 We can not where I live use taxpayer dollars for anything people think up - there's a system and it is voted on.  Police can "volunteer" to teach but that will violate the terms of their employment unless they are a certified instructor.  

 I don't go to panels and write suggestions for local legislation with "I bet" as a method.  I need actual numbers and actual people that can do the said work.  We can not just have local police come teach people how to carry guns in schools because we think its a good idea, we need to follow laws.  We need a budget.

 Say its "easy" all day long but for people actually out there doing the groundwork its a different story.  Its much more involved than just typing it on a forum.

 Its not impossible, nobody I know has said that.  In TX very few schools use the "School Marshall" program that the law provided.

 Its also not "easy", and from a logistics/cost perspective its not the most effective at this time where I live.

 The point is people want to say that they know people that would volunteer to walk schools with guns and consider it a closed deal... problem solved... when its not even close.

“…people want to say that they know people that would volunteer to walk schools with guns …”
“…people you know that will roam schools for free…”

Who said that above ?

What I said,
 In Describing, TEACHERS,
(To make it clearer, a  Person, who, Teaches, has a Job Teaching, Is Employed Teaching)
“… If asked, they would ‘carry' and Defend.
And NOT, Ask to be  PAID …”
(Again, that would be, the People that are already paid and employed, as, ‘Teachers’)

Would it be,  hard or easy?  
One can work to Solve, or one can work to Hinder.

From the posts, rather easy to see,
Who is working, Hard,  to MAKE  it Hard.

A Person hired to sweep the floors,
 can NOT, take a piece of tape off a wall,
   Because:    “Not My Job, It’s Someones Else’s Job to take tape off a wall!”

   A Person hired to sweep the floors,
 takes a piece of tape off a wall,
as he/she seeps the floor next it.