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SALB Serious Thumper Offline FSO Posts: 668 Whittier, AK Gender:	Re: Plunger switches on handlebars Reply #15 - 12/28/17 at 13:31:31 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/28/17 at 11:32:11: I Think the passing switch just flicks the headlight from low to high, in hopes of getting the driver ahead to see you. What it needs to do is add five horsepower for fifteen seconds. NITROUS!!!
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Reply #16 - 12/28/17 at 14:39:30

The passing switch was added in 2004. It provides power to the high beam when it is pushed. If the low beam is on it will make a noticeable flash to oncoming traffic, as the high beam direct light upwards...the low beam doesn't. The effect of the brightness is far more noticeable with the engine running and a bit of distance.......ride up to a wall and watch what it does when you push it. (If you already have the high beam on....you won't even see that the button does anything).

In the EU countries you flash your lights to signal passing intentions - here in the states is just seems to tick people off.

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Reply #17 - 12/28/17 at 15:33:47

Dave wrote on 12/28/17 at 14:39:30:

The passing switch was added in 2004. It provides power to the high beam when it is pushed. If the low beam is on it will make a noticeable flash to oncoming traffic, as the high beam direct light upwards...the low beam doesn't. The effect of the brightness is far more noticeable with the engine running and a bit of distance.......ride up to a wall and watch what it does when you push it. (If you already have the high beam on....you won't even see that the button does anything).

In the EU countries you flash your lights to signal passing intentions - here in the states is just seems to tick people off.

in Australia, flashing the headlight is the signal to warn unbecoming traffic about speed cameras.

And, on motorcycles, our headlights come on with the engine as a mandatory requirement.

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IslandRoad Serious Thumper Offline It doesn't vibrate, it purrs! Posts: 1147 The Kiewa Valley, Australia Gender:	Re: Plunger switches on handlebars Reply #19 - 12/28/17 at 17:32:43 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/28/17 at 16:29:40: Australia, flashing the headlight is the signal to warn unbecoming traffic I'm not sure we even have that here. Lol! darn autocorrect! - "oncoming"
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Plunger switches on handlebars Reply #20 - 12/28/17 at 17:48:38 It's sneaky that way..
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8006	Re: Plunger switches on handlebars Reply #21 - 12/28/17 at 18:39:40 I have three 1995 model bikes so no passing switch. The issue I have with headlight strobe is that many people use the bright light flash to indicate they have stopped and its ok to turn. That is the opposite signal I want to portray at an intersection.
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Re: Plunger switches on handlebars
Reply #22 - 12/29/17 at 04:18:59

Eegore wrote on 12/28/17 at 18:39:40:

The issue I have with headlight strobe is that many people use the bright light flash to indicate they have stopped and its ok to turn.

Same around here......they use their headlight flashes to give permission to pull out of the drive, make a turn in front of them, etc.

That is why I hooked my passing switch up to a yellow/white strobe located under the headlight.

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8006	Re: Plunger switches on handlebars Reply #23 - 01/03/18 at 07:55:31 Could a 2004 or newer assembly that has a passing switch be added to a 1995?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28760 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Plunger switches on handlebars Reply #24 - 01/03/18 at 08:07:55 Eegore wrote on 01/03/18 at 07:55:31: Could a 2004 or newer assembly that has a passing switch be added to a 1995? it requires a compatible wiring harness or rewiring to provide the function. Also, the start switch disables the headlight during starting on later year bikes.
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Re: Plunger switches on handlebars
Reply #25 - 01/03/18 at 08:08:18

Eegore wrote on 01/03/18 at 07:55:31:

Could a 2004 or newer assembly that has a passing switch be added to a 1995?

As Verslagen has suggested - the frame wiring harness is different as they did change a few other things....like the headlight power goes off when the starter button is pushed, 4 way flashers on the right control....and the headlight flasher on the left control.

I believe wiring connectors are different where the left control connects to the main harness under the tank. If you are willing to cut and splice the wires on the 2004 or newer control assembly to your 1995 connector......it could be done.

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Re: Plunger switches on handlebars
Reply #26 - 01/03/18 at 08:10:50

Dave wrote on 01/03/18 at 08:08:18:

Eegore wrote on 01/03/18 at 07:55:31:

Could a 2004 or newer assembly that has a passing switch be added to a 1995?

I believe wiring connectors are different. If you are willing to cut and splice the wires on the 2004 or newer control assembly to your 1995 connector......it could be done.

Connectors are the same, it just doesn't work right.

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Reply #27 - 01/05/18 at 16:42:54

Maybe I misstated my question.

Is the physical component of the material surrounding a passing switch able to be installed on a 1995 model Savage?

I would like to have the yellow switch re-wired on a separate circuit. This would activate a "stand-alone" flashing sequence of lights installed on the bike. I'm not sure if that's easier, but it could be the route we take.

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Re: Plunger switches on handlebars
Reply #28 - 01/06/18 at 03:40:25

Physically a 2004 and later handlebar electrical control will fit an earlier bike.....it will bolt onto the handlebar - but at this point we are not sure the electrical connector will snap together with the earlier bike (and that the wiring circuit is a plug and play).

I do know that the passing switch has a small yellow wire that goes part way down the harness, and it is then spliced into the large yellow wire that runs the high beam of the headlight. If you open the harness and disconnect the small yellow wire - you can use the small yellow wire as a (+) source to power whatever you want. (I used it to power a white/yellow strobe I mounted under my headlight).

I think it is worth a try for you to buy a 2004 and later left handlebar control and see if it works!

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8006	Re: Plunger switches on handlebars Reply #29 - 01/12/18 at 14:50:29 Thanks for the info on the controls and wire Dave. I will get a few left handlebar controls and see if they can figure something out.
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