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Reply #15 - 11/29/17 at 04:30:42
 
I've not followed this enough as I should but is the basic issue one side wants the feds to regulate ISP's to deliver a consistent data speed and the other sides wants to keep it deregulated and allow ISP's to adjust speed and data through price? Is that the gist of it?
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Reply #16 - 11/29/17 at 08:32:33
 
WebsterMark wrote on 11/29/17 at 04:30:42:
I've not followed this enough as I should but is the basic issue one side wants the feds to regulate ISP's to deliver a consistent data speed and the other sides wants to keep it deregulated and allow ISP's to adjust speed and data through price? Is that the gist of it?


The Fox just wants to count the eggs.......

It's called the World Wide Web.

Let technology and the consumers decide, NOT another IRS, or any goverment lackey.

Information IS POWER.
They always, ALWAYS, abuse it!
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“The biggest big business in America is not steel, automobiles, or television. It is the manufacture, refinement and distribution of anxiety.”—Eric Sevareid (1964)
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Reply #17 - 11/29/17 at 09:26:49
 
I think I was wrong when I supported NN.
Undoing it will cause disruption, but the providers are all throttling speeds now, so, what are we accomplishing?
What happens when government gets involved in telling people what they can do? Screws up markets..
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Reply #18 - 11/29/17 at 09:43:47
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/29/17 at 09:26:49:
I think I was wrong when I supported NN.
Undoing it will cause disruption, but the providers are all throttling speeds now, so, what are we accomplishing?
What happens when government gets involved in telling people what they can do? Screws up markets..


you mean like medical care, or goodness me, that we need to go to war....

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Reply #19 - 11/29/17 at 10:38:00
 
Price Controls are not helpful.
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Reply #20 - 11/29/17 at 12:02:01
 
It controls nothing.....
In fact, it stymies competition.

Look.....
Liberalism LOVES bureaucracies, it’s their vehicle to enforce their utopia on others who are too stupid to know what’s good for them.

Look at Matt Lauer, as he direct questions to O’Rielly, Pence, and others about sexual harassment, wanting to hold these folks accountable, questioning their abilities and character, while totally ignoring his own....

This is the poster boy of how liberalism works...
It’s all about power, for them!
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Reply #21 - 11/29/17 at 12:54:44
 
Yes, Ray.
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Reply #22 - 11/29/17 at 13:13:35
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/29/17 at 12:54:44:
Yes, Ray.


If you love your internet provider, you can keep it....

Oh yeah, stupid me  Embarrassed
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Reply #23 - 11/29/17 at 14:33:39
 
NN is a screwup. Let the market work.
Tell a provider what they can't do and what they can do and you limit competition and innovation.
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Reply #24 - 11/29/17 at 17:15:34
 
Here is a, analogy, of the WWW/Internet.

         It has  NEVER  been  FREE  !!!!


So, you are on a Turnpike, you Pay to get on that road.
Once you are on that road,
you can stop at Several places, and get Several things.

Some places charge a lot, some charge nothing, some are in the middle.
Some, Plaster you with Advertising,
Some ask for a Donation,
Some ‘Require’ you to, ’Subscribe’, to get information.

Now the places/Businesses, that are on that ’Turnpike’,
Pay, to be their.
How do they re-coop the cost of, ‘Being their?
By Charging you, Flooding you with advertisements, or asking for donations.

(Your Name Address,  Phone,  e-mail address, are ALL  Worth  MONEY.
               They are  SOLD)

Unless, you are in, ’stealth’ mode, or, have, ‘blocked ads’,
YOUR, Visit to that place is  RECORDED.
             AND all the information gathered is, SOLD
    (In most businesses, but not all)

When one is in, ’Stealth/Blocked, mode, one can  NOT, get in the door of some business.
 Simply because that business can NOT, flood you with adds, or Collect YOUR  information to be able to SELL.

Now, under, Obama,  what has happened?
More and More, business, are  REQUIRING  you to  PAY, to see what they post.
      (Yea, You  have experienced it)

What will happen under Trumps Plan,  Don’t Know.

Do know, it is  YOUR, Choice, which business to stop at, when you are on the Turnpike.
NO ONE, says, ‘You Have To’.
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In 98, I Built a Web site, which as the, WWW/Internet was concerned, was a 1/4 of a grain, of sand, on all the beaches.  
Yet to the tiny group of people it affected, it, Was the Beach.
Revenue, was ads for relevant items, because people came their, For, the information provided
   (Not, ADS, AUTOMATICALLY  Forced on you)
And a  Statement,  “NO, Personal Information, will EVER  be gathered or sold”.
   Even though that information, from Everyone that visits, is just, ‘Right Their’.

But never mind, I am sure that some, " Blind in one Eye, hard to see out of the other, Kum-By-You Singing, Ultra-Progressive, ANTIFA  Ideals  Supporting, Fairy Dust Sprinkling person “
       Will say otherwise.

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Reply #25 - 11/29/17 at 19:13:15
 

 This thread almost stayed on topic without bringing in a bunch of opinionated superfluous information.

 I agree that keeping the government out of business is usually a good idea however I am not sure that this program cripples ISP growth.
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Reply #26 - 11/29/17 at 21:44:50
 
Not sure.......

Then why do it?
The industry has been doing just fine without these bloated oversight do nothing gubbermint employees.

Technology will even improve, goodness, look how the handheld calculator went from 100’s to nothing.
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Reply #27 - 11/29/17 at 22:49:39
 
The same people who supported Bamicare don't want to see NN ended.
Soros is against it.
That's enough for me.
But I see beyond that.
I expect the immediate response to be chaotic and prices to change, and as costs to consumers climb, innovative competitors will enter the market, things will stabilize, services will become more affordable and speeds will increase.
Like buying a cable package, you can get the Platinum or Silver or Gold, depending on your budget.
You can have FedEx deliver a package tomorrow or in a few days. Depending on your needs and budget.
Let people sell their services and pick what suits you.
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Reply #28 - 11/30/17 at 05:27:17
 
I'm starting to see this the same way Jog, but here's a question: list government price control or other form of enforced control programs that have kept prices low while those goods or  services improved due to technology and/or remained competitive with the market?
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Reply #29 - 11/30/17 at 06:44:07
 
That's pretty much the crux of what I've been trying to say.
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