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raydawg

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Drain it baby.....
10/16/17 at 08:43:15

Having just read post here, blogs, tweeter, etc....... over the last few days, without responding/replying....
It is readily apparent to me, folks are staking out ground, and clueless as to why.
Entrenched beliefs, and propaganda, has rendered their critical reasoning impotent, or non existent.....
And they flounder around without clue, fighting imaginary boogeymen based on nothing more than what someone told them to be scared of.

Folks, this swamp is massive, none of us has the capacity to see its immense size, it has swelled and grown for ages.

However, what we can do is realize that this SWAMP is made up of many ponds.
If you lack the honesty and integrity to look at draining your own pond FIRST, then you must accept as fact, this swamp won't be drained at all.....
And we will continue down this path of destructive mind-think until we all drown.

Many in this world are betting on that.....
That we crumble from within.

You may argue with me, however, I will not respond.

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Reply #1 - 10/16/17 at 09:18:02

I've laid out reasoned points and Bot won't touch them.
Nobody else is either.
I guess I'll call it a win.
But the object of debate isn't
Win.
It's to offer a logical argument for ones attitudes and beliefs. Which when shown to be unassailable, become the foundation for changing the unfounded and unreasonable attitudes and beliefs of others.
Sadly, the pain of the realization that someone experiences in that moment seems to make it unlikely or near impossible. Feeling right is more important than actually being right for them. I Do understand. Because I remember what it felt like when I found the information that proved my suspicions right. Took three days to stop feeling like crap. And I was already doubtful of the OFISHYal story.

Getting those who are convinced that government is the solution to realize what is really happening is probably not going to happen.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28377 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Drain it baby..... Reply #2 - 10/16/17 at 09:51:01 By using the "Swamp" analogy,.. you have already staked out your own personal bias... I get it, in spite of vagaries,.. both sides have problems... Simplified of wordiness... Quit thinking too much...
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Reply #3 - 10/16/17 at 09:57:59

raydawg wrote on 10/16/17 at 08:43:15:

Having just read post here, blogs, tweeter, etc....... over the last few days, without responding/replying.... It is readily apparent to me, folks are staking out ground, and clueless as to why. Entrenched beliefs, and propaganda, has rendered their critical reasoning impotent, or non existent..... And they flounder around without clue, fighting imaginary boogeymen based on nothing more than what someone told them to be scared of. Folks, this swamp is massive, none of us has the capacity to see its immense size, it has swelled and grown for ages. However, what we can do is realize that this SWAMP is made up of many ponds. If you lack the honesty and integrity to look at draining your own pond FIRST, then you must accept as fact, this swamp won't be drained at all..... And we will continue down this path of destructive mind-think until we all drown. Many in this world are betting on that..... That we crumble from within. You may argue with me, however, I will not respond.

“…this swamp is massive…”
“…SWAMP is made up of many ponds…”
“…look at draining your own pond FIRST…”

I view that as, ’starting at the bottom working up’.
Clean up, your local, Town, Twp, County, State.
Then the higher up will, see what is happening, lower down,
And decide, ‘Shi t', we can’t do that anymore”.

Where we got this way, because:
The Locals, SAW, the upper, doing what ever they wanted.
and decided they could do the same.

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .

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Reply #4 - 10/16/17 at 10:06:39

Serowbot wrote on 10/16/17 at 09:51:01:

By using the "Swamp" analogy,.. you have already staked out your own personal bias...

I get it, in spite of vagaries,.. both sides have problems...
Simplified of wordiness...

Quit thinking too much... Roll Eyes

They went around me in first grade.
The first reading circle.
I got to read one time.
And then teach skipped me twice.
Dismissed us to recess.
We never had another reading circle.

Sometimes people just avoid what they can't defeat and really don't want to face the facts.

When people stop just accepting what they are TOLD, especially when it is completely undeniable that we have been lied to, and do some thinking, America might get better. But while the societal goals are unnatural, downhill is the direction.

C'mon Bot,
Why did we destroy the irrigation system?

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28377 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Drain it baby..... Reply #5 - 10/16/17 at 10:12:41 The problem here is that people think people are the problem... Money is the problem... Governance has become a game of my special interests vs your special interests... Playing musical chairs won't fix it. Restricting the cash flow will make representatives put constituents first over moneyed interests... Weed out the greed...
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Drain it baby..... Reply #6 - 10/16/17 at 10:22:32 What's the reason for wrecking it?
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Reply #7 - 10/16/17 at 10:35:10

Serowbot wrote on 10/16/17 at 10:12:41:

The problem here is that people think people are the problem...
Money is the problem... Governance has become a game of my special interests vs your special interests...
Playing musical chairs won't fix it.
Restricting the cash flow will make representatives put constituents first over moneyed interests...
Weed out the greed...

HERE HERE!!!

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28377 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Drain it baby..... Reply #8 - 10/16/17 at 10:39:10 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/16/17 at 10:22:32: What's the reason for wrecking it? JOg,.. nobody frikkin' cares... particularly me... ...and the more you bring it up,.. the less I care. Libya's sprinklers are a nutbucket talking point... Period...
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Drain it baby..... Reply #9 - 10/16/17 at 10:52:01 You can't Afford to care. When you realize that you believe what isn't rationally supported, it's gonna hurt. You don't want to accept that we murdered a decent guy, destroyed the lives of the people who had the highest standard of living in Africa, all based on lies. You diminish the relevance in order to protect your own beliefs.
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Reply #10 - 10/16/17 at 11:25:34

Serowbot wrote on 10/16/17 at 09:51:01:
By using the "Swamp" analogy,.. you have already staked out your own personal bias...

I get it, in spite of vagaries,.. both sides have problems...
Simplified of wordiness...

Quit thinking too much...

The problem here is that people think people are the problem...
Money is the problem... Governance has become a game of my special interests vs your special interests...
Playing musical chairs won't fix it.
Restricting the cash flow will make representatives put constituents first over moneyed interests...
Weed out the greed...

I use the term swamp, as it in/of topical value, currently.
Like "deplorable".
It describes more of a "anti" movement, than it does of a certain person.

It appears you use it to justify your beliefs, and discount its meaning...
Then you blame money.
You allow yourself to "think".
But instruct and fault others, for the same.

I guess I can blame a girls BIG boobs for staring at them......

Many on left have become a useless avenue to dialogue.

Beat yourself up, sorry, I can't help you.
Just like a drunk who refuses to see its his drinking, not the booze, that is ruining his life.
I will be there to share how I overcome it......
But I won't enable the same behavior.

Sorry.

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9000 Minn Gender:	Re: Drain it baby..... Reply #11 - 10/16/17 at 11:42:10 *“…nobody firkin’ cares…”* That sums it up quit well. Just describe, ’NoBody’. Would they be the people, that can’t look, backwards, (History). To see where they came from. To know where to go, when going forward ?
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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Drain it baby..... Reply #12 - 10/16/17 at 11:44:10 MnSpring wrote on 10/16/17 at 11:42:10: *“…nobody firkin’ cares…”* That sums it up quit well. Just describe, ’NoBody’. Would they be the people, that can’t look, backwards, (History). To see where they came from. To know where to go, when going forward ? You mean like statues?
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Re: Drain it baby.....
Reply #13 - 10/16/17 at 15:43:15

Nobody cares
BULLSHIT
But the ones who are sucking the air that is handed them, polluted with lies, but it's what they are comfortable with, well, actually Bot, you Care, but what You care about is making sure nobody makes you think about it honestly.

If you had an answer that you could back up, you'd type it.
But you can't explain anything.
You're Stuck with talking points that don't hold up to scrutiny.
But that's not gonna make you think.

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Reply #14 - 10/16/17 at 16:57:06

I never got reply by a liberal as to why a employed person can disregard the employers directions to not kneel, based of freedom of expression and speech....
Yet, a cake baker is denied the same freedom of expression, etc....

I think the cake baker is a fool, but they should be entitled to be a fool.

I just mark it up under a general PC argument mentality..
You don't have to explain, just ignore what you want and call it good.
Well, President Obama said elections have consequences, they did, and will again, to the detriment of the liberal way of doing business.

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