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Title: Drain it baby..... Post by raydawg on 10/16/17 at 08:43:15 Having just read post here, blogs, tweeter, etc....... over the last few days, without responding/replying.... It is readily apparent to me, folks are staking out ground, and clueless as to why. Entrenched beliefs, and propaganda, has rendered their critical reasoning impotent, or non existent..... And they flounder around without clue, fighting imaginary boogeymen based on nothing more than what someone told them to be scared of. Folks, this swamp is massive, none of us has the capacity to see its immense size, it has swelled and grown for ages. However, what we can do is realize that this SWAMP is made up of many ponds. If you lack the honesty and integrity to look at draining your own pond FIRST, then you must accept as fact, this swamp won't be drained at all..... And we will continue down this path of destructive mind-think until we all drown. Many in this world are betting on that..... That we crumble from within. You may argue with me, however, I will not respond. |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/16/17 at 09:18:02 I've laid out reasoned points and Bot won't touch them. Nobody else is either. I guess I'll call it a win. But the object of debate isn't Win. It's to offer a logical argument for ones attitudes and beliefs. Which when shown to be unassailable, become the foundation for changing the unfounded and unreasonable attitudes and beliefs of others. Sadly, the pain of the realization that someone experiences in that moment seems to make it unlikely or near impossible. Feeling right is more important than actually being right for them. I Do understand. Because I remember what it felt like when I found the information that proved my suspicions right. Took three days to stop feeling like crap. And I was already doubtful of the OFISHYal story. Getting those who are convinced that government is the solution to realize what is really happening is probably not going to happen. |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by Serowbot on 10/16/17 at 09:51:01 By using the "Swamp" analogy,.. you have already staked out your own personal bias... I get it, in spite of vagaries,.. both sides have problems... Simplified of wordiness... Quit thinking too much... ::) |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by MnSpring on 10/16/17 at 09:57:59 392A322F2A3C2C4B0 wrote:
“…this swamp is massive…” “…SWAMP is made up of many ponds…” “…look at draining your own pond FIRST…” I view that as, ’starting at the bottom working up’. Clean up, your local, Town, Twp, County, State. Then the higher up will, see what is happening, lower down, And decide, ‘Shi t', we can’t do that anymore”. Where we got this way, because: The Locals, SAW, the upper, doing what ever they wanted. and decided they could do the same. |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/16/17 at 10:06:39 3721362B33262B30440 wrote:
They went around me in first grade. The first reading circle. I got to read one time. And then teach skipped me twice. Dismissed us to recess. We never had another reading circle. Sometimes people just avoid what they can't defeat and really don't want to face the facts. When people stop just accepting what they are TOLD, especially when it is completely undeniable that we have been lied to, and do some thinking, America might get better. But while the societal goals are unnatural, downhill is the direction. C'mon Bot, Why did we destroy the irrigation system? |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by Serowbot on 10/16/17 at 10:12:41 The problem here is that people think people are the problem... Money is the problem... Governance has become a game of my special interests vs your special interests... Playing musical chairs won't fix it. Restricting the cash flow will make representatives put constituents first over moneyed interests... Weed out the greed... |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/16/17 at 10:22:32 What's the reason for wrecking it? |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by T And T Garage on 10/16/17 at 10:35:10 293F28352D38352E5A0 wrote:
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by Serowbot on 10/16/17 at 10:39:10 4C5355524F4879497941535F14260 wrote:
JOg,.. nobody frikkin' cares... particularly me... ...and the more you bring it up,.. the less I care. Libya's sprinklers are a nutbucket talking point... Period... |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/16/17 at 10:52:01 You can't Afford to care. When you realize that you believe what isn't rationally supported, it's gonna hurt. You don't want to accept that we murdered a decent guy, destroyed the lives of the people who had the highest standard of living in Africa, all based on lies. You diminish the relevance in order to protect your own beliefs. |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by raydawg on 10/16/17 at 11:25:34 6670677A62777A61150 wrote:
I use the term swamp, as it in/of topical value, currently. Like "deplorable". It describes more of a "anti" movement, than it does of a certain person. It appears you use it to justify your beliefs, and discount its meaning... Then you blame money. You allow yourself to "think". But instruct and fault others, for the same. I guess I can blame a girls BIG boobs for staring at them...... Many on left have become a useless avenue to dialogue. Beat yourself up, sorry, I can't help you. Just like a drunk who refuses to see its his drinking, not the booze, that is ruining his life. I will be there to share how I overcome it...... But I won't enable the same behavior. Sorry. |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by MnSpring on 10/16/17 at 11:42:10 “…nobody firkin’ cares…” That sums it up quit well. Just describe, ’NoBody’. Would they be the people, that can’t look, backwards, (History). To see where they came from. To know where to go, when going forward ? |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by raydawg on 10/16/17 at 11:44:10 6F4C7152504B4C45220 wrote:
You mean like statues? |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/16/17 at 15:43:15 Nobody cares BULLSHIT But the ones who are sucking the air that is handed them, polluted with lies, but it's what they are comfortable with, well, actually Bot, you Care, but what You care about is making sure nobody makes you think about it honestly. If you had an answer that you could back up, you'd type it. But you can't explain anything. You're Stuck with talking points that don't hold up to scrutiny. But that's not gonna make you think. |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by raydawg on 10/16/17 at 16:57:06 I never got reply by a liberal as to why a employed person can disregard the employers directions to not kneel, based of freedom of expression and speech.... Yet, a cake baker is denied the same freedom of expression, etc.... I think the cake baker is a fool, but they should be entitled to be a fool. I just mark it up under a general PC argument mentality.. You don't have to explain, just ignore what you want and call it good. Well, President Obama said elections have consequences, they did, and will again, to the detriment of the liberal way of doing business. |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by MnSpring on 10/16/17 at 17:43:05 6E7D65787D6B7B1C0 wrote:
“…I think the cake baker is a fool, but they should be entitled…” And that is a, “CHOICE”. If Business, makes a, ‘Choice’, on one side or the other. They will suffer the results, of the people that ‘choose’, the other POV. Bout once a month, 3 weeks, I buy a case of beer. Always, went to one town, (Business Family owned). Then in another town, (where I get my mail), a store opened. I split my business. After about 8 months, another customer, (who I knew), was checking out, and he was talking, ‘Right’, about current Politics. I said: ‘Ya Know, have not heard, one person, saying they support H.R.C.’ The Owner, (instead of saying nothing), said: “Well I Do”. The end result was, after I, and the other person, told other people, what he said. The Business is now, STRUGGLING !!!!!!!!! But, No One, “FORCED", him. It was, His, ‘Choice’. In St. Cloud MN, when a Muslim Refugee, KNIFED, people in a Shopping Mall. A Local restaurant put up a sign: “No Muslims Allowed” His Business, went through the ROOF ! So, it is a, ‘Choice’, it is Not a, ‘FORCED’, POV. |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by T And T Garage on 10/16/17 at 17:51:30 31223A27223424430 wrote:
Yeah, keep those blinders on - but don't be surprised when you go to your local bakery and they refuse to make your "I love Jesus" cake or just any cake for you - seeing as you and your wife are an interracial couple and all.... Yeah ray - elections have consequences - and this moron in charge is ruining this country. |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/16/17 at 18:11:34 Sections Subscribe Sign In Courts & Law In major Supreme Court case, Justice Dept. sides with baker who refused to make wedding cake for gay couple Play Video 1:23 Justice Dept. sides with baker who refused to make wedding cake for gay couple 0:00 The Justice Department on Sept. 7 sided with a Colorado baker who refused to bake a wedding cake for a same-sex couple. (Victoria Walker/The Washington Post) By Robert Barnes September 7 In a major upcoming Supreme Court case that weighs equal rights with religious liberty, the Trump administration on Thursday sided with a Colorado baker who refused to bake a wedding cake for a same-sex couple. The Department of Justice on Thursday filed a brief on behalf of baker Jack Phillips, who was found to have violated the Colorado Anti-Discrimination Act by refusing to created a cake to celebrate the marriage of Charlie Craig and David Mullins in 2012. Phillips said he doesn’t create wedding cakes for same-sex couples because it would violate his religious beliefs. The government agreed with Phillips that his cakes are a form of expression, and he cannot be compelled to use his talents for something in which he does not believe. “Forcing Phillips to create expression for and participate in a ceremony that violates his sincerely held religious beliefs invades his First Amendment rights,” Acting Solicitor Gen That's what I said. Forcing someone to participate in something they don't agree with is wrong. Maybe now that I am backed up by the government you lefties can agree. Right? That's the first time I've heard about the guy not getting shafted. Or I would have posted it. |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by raydawg on 10/16/17 at 19:21:43 736D62636E736875070 wrote:
Yeah, keep those blinders on - but don't be surprised when you go to your local bakery and they refuse to make your "I love Jesus" cake or just any cake for you - seeing as you and your wife are an interracial couple and all.... Yeah ray - elections have consequences - and this moron in charge is ruining this country. [/quote] You really are that stupid, aren't you.....' It was not my wish, it was a question advanced in trying to find an answer, you, you look at both sides of the equation.,.. But your head is so far up your azz you only have one view, just like a stupid salmon who travels miles back to its spawning creek, only to make a wrong turn, and too darn stupid to turn around it dies without fulfilling its destiny..... And me and my little Mexican wife just don't do business with folks who do not want our business, or rude, or over priced, or a whole host of reasons, that's what normal folk do. Useless fool ::) |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/16/17 at 20:11:00 Every business owner has rights. Consumers can frequent the business that suits them. I'm pretty comfortable believing plenty of bakeries would happily do what they want. But They WANTED to shove it down the bakers throat. So, screw them. Hooray for the baker. |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by raydawg on 10/16/17 at 23:24:02 352A2C2B3631003000382A266D5F0 wrote:
I don't think it was their throat, more like up their --- ;D |
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Title: Re: Drain it baby..... Post by T And T Garage on 10/17/17 at 06:19:35 6F7C64797C6A7A1D0 wrote:
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