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Reply #15 - 10/12/17 at 07:30:32
 
pg wrote on 10/12/17 at 04:54:19:
I don't know what happened but,  I don't buy the official narrative for several reasons.  That hotel room should have been ankle deep in expended brass.  There were clips with multiple weapons being fired simultaneously.  The Bellagio was shot-up that night as well but they didn't report it.

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Lombardo said he had help.  Even the note with calculations is BS.  Anyone who owns 40 guns would know a 223 wouldn't drop more than a foot at 500 yards.  No casino would let a hotel guest use their freight elevator........

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Reply #16 - 10/12/17 at 08:25:32
 
 Muzzle flash in real life isn't cut and dry like the movies and youtube experts want you to believe.  You can not always see muzzle flash, especially at long distance due to the flash being so small.  

 Why isn't shaky-ass cell phone footage showing what I think I should see?  Maybe because its a bullshit recording device from a person scared shitless?  Nah, its because "no hotel lets a guest use a freight elevator."  Lets ignore that I have myself used freight elevators in more than one hotel, but hey maybe I'm the only person in the world who has ever done that.

 Also why do we choose to ignore the audio of people indicating they are seeing flashes up on the Mandalay Bay?

 "Ankle Deep" in brass is thousands upon thousands of rounds in a room that big.  Did you even do the math?  Have you never seen a bullet?

 My 7.62 cans are 7" x 4" x 10" and hold 200 linked rounds. Our 55 gal drums of spent ammo hold around 40,000 rounds, one dropped off a pallet inside a con-ex and wasn't even close to covering 1/3 of that container without any rounds stacking.  Again that was 40 thousand rounds.  (edit: Got a return email stating the last barrel ran 39,688 through the cleaner)

 I'm not saying I know what happened but so many people are choosing to ignore certain things or are using no data-based opinions at all.  

 



 
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Reply #17 - 10/12/17 at 08:44:56
 
I've set up multiple trade show exhibits in Las Vegas over the years. I distinctly remember last year taking the freight elevator despite a big sign saying not to use without authorized representative. If it isn't locked and I've got a bunch of stuff, I take it.

I remember 3 or 4 years ago, we had business with Best Buy. I had to get on the rooftops of all the Best Buys in central Illinois. I did 20 in one day. I walked in, asked for the store manager, told him why I was there, and all but one just handed over their keys to the hatch on top of the ladder which was always back in their storage room. Only one took the time to call their home office to confirm.

If you just act like you're suppose to be there, 9 out of 10 times, you can go anywhere. Any business to business sales guy like me will tell you that. I go wherever I want until I'm stopped and then just play like I didn't see the sign or didn't know I wasn't suppose to be there.

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Reply #18 - 10/12/17 at 08:54:58
 
... but, conspiracy theory is so fun... Huh
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Reply #19 - 10/12/17 at 16:25:30
 
Especially when
Observed Reality
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Reply #20 - 10/12/17 at 18:00:11
 
Eegore wrote on 10/12/17 at 08:25:32:
 
 "Ankle Deep" in brass is thousands upon thousands of rounds in a room that big.  Did you even do the math?  Have you never seen a bullet?
 


It was a figure of speech used in a non-literal sense.   I have read anywhere from 600 - 900 rounds were discharge.  There would be a whole lot more brass than that.  Yes, I go shooting on occasion and I have sent my fair share of 7.62 X 39 mm down range.





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Reply #21 - 10/12/17 at 18:47:14
 
Why haul all those guns and ammo up there ?
If someone wanted to kill a buncha people, wouldn't they load and stage weapons, shoot one till it was too hot, grab another, shoot, grab another, shoot?
No way he even shot every gun.

Sure was a lot of quiet time between bursts.


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Reply #22 - 10/13/17 at 05:34:58
 

 if I've learned anything working around criminals its that they don't use a ton of logic.

 Assessing what we would do will have little bearing on the facts behind what this person actually did.  

 Also with all the variables involved here I would say there's no "Official Story" at this time.  Evidence is still being collected.  

 All we are doing is reading media reports and trying to attach our own logic to the situation.
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Reply #23 - 10/13/17 at 07:44:43
 
When anyone decides to do something
They think about it
And decide what to do
He decided to take a buncha guns
And a buncha bullets
And, illogical, irrational criminal that he was, managed to remain undetected and got his attack off.
By your logic
No big crimes should have been successful, because criminals are not able to make good decisions.
And, since teams have managed some major crimes, knowing that Weakness Inherent in Criminals just makes them all the more shocking.
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Reply #24 - 10/13/17 at 07:56:39
 
Because a couple of pictures don't show 1,000 shells you see intrigue?...
That's adding 2 + your imagination and coming up with 737... Grin
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Reply #25 - 10/13/17 at 08:31:42
 
If that's the window he shot at fuel tanks through, I wouldn't expect many shells.

It won't hurt anything to show us the spent casings anyway..

Since the perpetrator is dead, why not let us see? Is it gonna hurt the prosecutor's case against him?
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Reply #26 - 10/13/17 at 14:16:41
 
Serowbot wrote on 10/13/17 at 07:56:39:
Because a couple of pictures don't show 1,000 shells you see intrigue?...
That's adding 2 + your imagination and coming up with 737... Grin



There are plenty more than just those two if you are interested.  How about a timeline of events that they change every day.  Or the prime witness comes up missing right before a TV interview.....

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/13/las-vegas-security-guard-disappears-before-...

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Reply #27 - 10/13/17 at 14:53:25
 
prime witness comes up missing right before a TV interview.....

He went
Lone Ranger..
And they slapped a gag order on his family.

Fact subject to change.
Like the others.
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Reply #28 - 10/13/17 at 17:00:57
 
Serowbot wrote on 10/13/17 at 07:56:39:
Because a couple of pictures don't show 1,000 shells you see intrigue?...
That's adding 2 + your imagination and coming up with 737... Grin



How about forensic acoustics?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxmEFeKy8aI

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Reply #29 - 10/13/17 at 17:06:28
 
Decline to comment, on what, ‘Exactly”  Happened.

As I was not their, and am relying, on other sources, to tell the truth.

  (Kinna Like, Noor & Damond shooting, Just  Not  gonna  Happen)

Do have a comment on the statement, by the Media:
          “…largest mass shooting…”

   I believe that, was actually in, (near),  Waco TX.
             In 1993, 76 people dead.




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