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10/09/17 at 13:09:19
 
Only 4 percent of Africans kidnaped into slavery went to America.
The bulk of them went to Arab nations, which some still practiced into the 1960's.
A lot went to the Caribbean and Brazil.
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Is there a point you're trying to make?
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Reply #2 - 10/09/17 at 14:59:56
 
T And T Garage wrote on 10/09/17 at 14:25:03:
Is there a point you're trying to make?


Why you ask......
Surely not to challenge your own beliefs.
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raydawg wrote on 10/09/17 at 13:09:19:
Only 4 percent of Africans kidnaped into slavery went to America.
The bulk of them went to Arab nations, which some still practiced into the 1960's.
A lot went to the Caribbean and Brazil.



That's surprising if true.
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Well,  ’Slavery’,  Still,  exists, today.

  Only in the USA, it is called:
     "Indentured Servants”
 or
      “I  won’t call the INS”.
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Reply #5 - 10/09/17 at 16:21:27
 
WebsterMark wrote on 10/09/17 at 15:12:18:
raydawg wrote on 10/09/17 at 13:09:19:
Only 4 percent of Africans kidnaped into slavery went to America.
The bulk of them went to Arab nations, which some still practiced into the 1960's.
A lot went to the Caribbean and Brazil.



That's surprising if true.



Quite a bit of it is true.

Between 1502 and 1866, of the 11.2 million Africans, only 388,000 arrived in the United States, while the rest arrived in Latin America and the Caribbean[3] These slaves were brought as early as the 16th and 17th centuries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Latin_America


The Arab trade of Zanj (Bantu) slaves in Southeast Africa is one of the oldest slave trades, predating the European transatlantic slave trade by 700 years.[3][8][33] Male slaves were often employed as servants, soldiers, or laborers by their owners, while female slaves, including those from Africa, were long traded to the Middle Eastern countries and kingdoms by Arab and Oriental traders as concubines and servants. Arab, African and Oriental traders were involved in the capture and transport of slaves northward across the Sahara desert and the Indian Ocean region into the Middle East, Persia and the Far East.[3][8]

Some historians assert that as many as 17 million people were sold into slavery on the coast of the Indian Ocean, the Middle East, and North Africa, and approximately 5 million African slaves were bought by Muslim slave traders and taken from Africa across the Red Sea, Indian Ocean, and Sahara desert between 1500 and 1900.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade


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Blacks owned slaves.
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justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/09/17 at 19:28:10:
Blacks owned slaves.



As a American Indian, I can tell you we took hostages after a successful raid on another tribe.
The women were used in the same manner Bill Clinton used women....
The captured men were our slaves, doing labor, etc.

But really, it's all the old white mans fault....anyway.
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I have paid reparations to everyone I injured by owning them.
Well, except for
Owning
The local loony lefties.

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Well just to be clear, I, myself, did not partake on these raids, nor did I have a slave, or did I use my Willie on another tribes squaw, no....
You see, I wasn't born yet, and anyway, it's the old white Christian males fault anyway.....
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raydawg wrote on 10/09/17 at 14:59:56:
T And T Garage wrote on 10/09/17 at 14:25:03:
Is there a point you're trying to make?


Why you ask......
Surely not to challenge your own beliefs.


No ray - I knew that.  Slave trade was a gigantic business and this country was just one of many....

But what is your point?
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T And T Garage wrote on 10/10/17 at 05:33:40:
raydawg wrote on 10/09/17 at 14:59:56:
T And T Garage wrote on 10/09/17 at 14:25:03:
Is there a point you're trying to make?


Why you ask......
Surely not to challenge your own beliefs.


No ray - I knew that.  Slave trade was a gigantic business and this country was just one of many....

But what is your point?


Yeah, only 4 percent of it, yet folks like to paint a picture that America was the greatest evil of this whole ugly scar on mankind.

I guess we can thank the "stunt" mentality of those trying to prove a point by empowering themselves with identity politics....

Which I believe is fueling this anger and divide in our country.

Why aren't those other nations reported on?

Oh, because our politicians aren't running for office there, you say.....

Do Black Lives Matter, only matter, here in the USA?  
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raydawg wrote on 10/10/17 at 08:05:07:
T And T Garage wrote on 10/10/17 at 05:33:40:
raydawg wrote on 10/09/17 at 14:59:56:
T And T Garage wrote on 10/09/17 at 14:25:03:
Is there a point you're trying to make?


Why you ask......
Surely not to challenge your own beliefs.


No ray - I knew that.  Slave trade was a gigantic business and this country was just one of many....

But what is your point?


Yeah, only 4 percent of it, yet folks like to paint a picture that America was the greatest evil of this whole ugly scar on mankind.

That sounds like your white guilt showing... even though you're not white!   Grin

I guess we can thank the "stunt" mentality of those trying to prove a point by empowering themselves with identity politics....

Like how pence staged his walkout?  Yeah.

Which I believe is fueling this anger and divide in our country.

Yes, it is.

Why aren't those other nations reported on?

Because we don't live there and... well... they are not the US... lol

Oh, because our politicians aren't running for office there, you say.....

Do Black Lives Matter, only matter, here in the USA?  

Yes - if you knew what the BLM movement was, you wouldn't ask that question.

Hey ray - next time, why not just defend atrocities in this country by saying something like "well, they do worse things in Cambodia...." or the like?

Please, stop trying to point fingers at others for what clearly is our own fault.
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Reply #13 - 10/10/17 at 12:08:53
 
Why doesn't anyone every focus on the thousands of white people that died in order to end the atrocity of slavery. Surely they deserve more of our focus than the evil men that perpetrated slavery.

In fact I would make a bet that more men gave their lives fighting against slavery that there were actual slave owners. Why are whites only remembered for those few slave owners and not the thousands that died to stop it?

The whole issue seems to be a little lopsided.
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MShipley wrote on 10/10/17 at 12:08:53:
Why doesn't anyone every focus on the thousands of white people that died in order to end the atrocity of slavery. Surely they deserve more of our focus than the evil men that perpetrated slavery.

Agreed - then the statues erected during reconstruction should be taken down and replaced with monuments to those soldiers... correct?

In fact I would make a bet that more men gave their lives fighting against slavery that there were actual slave owners. Why are whites only remembered for those few slave owners and not the thousands that died to stop it?

Not all whites.  Just those who have a "soft spot" for the Confederacy.

The whole issue seems to be a little lopsided.


It is indeed.  We should all take comfort in the fact that we condemn slavery and have risen above it.  We should regard our fellow man as equal - despite the color of his skin.... But some just can't/won't.
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